EPTCode S might be losing entertainment value. - Page 12
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sitromit
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hotwings
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
Yes that wasn't supposed to be one sentence but I'm quite tired, sorry to those it offended, if need be edit it lmao >< | ||
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Shamrock_
South Africa276 Posts
GSL feels too...hard. I have to find times, buy tickets and then watch a lot of games I'm not particularly excited about. | ||
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phisku
Belgium864 Posts
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Zeroxk
Norway1244 Posts
On September 08 2011 07:33 sitromit wrote: You guys can keep insulting people who don't enjoy TvT, but unsiege, move 2 steps left, siege, unsiege, move to steps to the right, repeat... for several minutes before every engagement is clearly not entertaining for some of us. When I watch TvT at the GSL, there are times I want to yell at the screen "attack already so whoever wins wins, jesus!!!" Watch the first season of Code A, everyone taking turns amoving into siegelines | ||
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magnaflow
Canada1521 Posts
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Jutai
United States13 Posts
If you look at the GSL, the crowd gets excited and they enjoy the game, but MLG is a whole different level of hype. This could all change once BW players migrate and commentators are literally jizzing themselves at how good people are. But at present there are only 3-5 players that can "blow your mind". And despite the foreign scene not being as good, they know how to make events fun. | ||
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julianto
2292 Posts
I still go to sleep extra early so that I can wake up extra early for the GSL. GSL has the best of the best, and that's exciting for me. | ||
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Skydancer
Italy249 Posts
GOMTV is great, the game balance is broken. Hurry up Blizzard, patch this game or give us an expansion or SC2 as Esport will die soon. I've bought the ticket from GSL March but i'll don't buy for sure for the next season if something don't change in the game. P.s:: The overall problem is that best player is starting to lose from "race player" and it's not fun at all! | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
 ) and the timezone and the pace of the league - you just can't beat the entertainment value.Can't speak for myself but one of my best friends went to Anaheim and got a picture with the emperor himself. Can't get that at 3am watching the GSL when you gotta wake up for work/school/life soon. | ||
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RoboBob
United States798 Posts
If anything, I think *MLG* has a problem of lack of "new blood". Besides the Koreans, the only "new player" at MLG Raleigh was Trimaster. Mostly because MLG's point system is pathetic. We've been watching the same pool players all year because its so difficult to get ejected from it. GSL has a good system for retaining top talent like Nestea/MVP/MC but also allowing new talent the opportunity to pop up. MVP, MKP, and MC have all dropped to Code A at least once, but had no trouble getting back up to Code S. Well MC hasn't made it back into Code S yet, but honestly I don't see anyone in this Code A giving him a challenge besides SC and Select (and his PvT is really good anyways) | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On September 08 2011 07:43 julianto wrote: TvT is the only matchup with a legitimate mass air battle. I actually hope that due to late-game TvT, Blizzard will introduce new terran air units to make the matchup more dynamic and exciting. I still go to sleep extra early so that I can wake up extra early for the GSL. GSL has the best of the best, and that's exciting for me. This is admittedly why I enjoy TvT. Seeing mass vikings and ravens with a few battlecruisers and banshees thrown into the mix is exciting. Also, watching units walk into tank-lines is pretty entertaining, not gonna lie. | ||
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zeloso
25 Posts
1) Commentators, tastosis is what started off the gsl, I know they are busy when important matches for example Code A finals, Code S, and all up/down matches should be casted by tastosis. Everyone is used to their style of commentary. When moletrap and doa or wolf moletrap casts up/down matches or the code S matches I basically just turn off the stream and go watch something else.. They criticize players for making some sort of mistakes when they dont even know what they are talking about 2) same thing every gsl. Lots of terran, I dont really mind it but there are alot of players stuck in Code B and Code A that are actually Code S material but cudnt get in bcuz of how hard it is. Example Dongraegu, Leenock but luckily they made it 3) Paying 10 bucks for every season where you only enjoy half the games. I hope gomtv makes it so code S cost like bucks and Code A costs like 5 bucks so i can skip out the Code A which i usually do because of the commentary | ||
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johnnywup
United States3858 Posts
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Gooey
United States944 Posts
It is kinda like when Stork and Hydra for OSL set up a group that comprised of Flash/Bisu/Jaedong in the RO32. Yeah, it was super fucking exciting to watch that group, because holy shit just look at it. But once it got to the RO8, it was just Flash on one side, and a bunch of 'average' progamers on the other. He proceeded to roll over everyone no problem. If the final dramatic rounds of the tournament aren't interesting, then that's all people are going to remember. Every GSL finals has been heavily one sided and not very entertaining to watch. It's been 1 player out-classing the other to a point where it is painfully obvious even to people who aren't very knowledgeable of the game. Let's just recap a little: Season 1: Actually not that bad of a final, just because it was cool to see Fruit Dealer win it. I don't think too many people are upset about this one. It was the first major prize purse tournament in SC2. Season 2: Here we go. NesTea vs MKP. Marine scv all-in 5/7 games. Nestea destroys him when he tries to play a 1 rax expand style, finally holds a marine scv all in on the last map. Yawn. Season 3: MC vs Rain: MC does some type of 1 base all-in, and the one game he does lose, Rain, who happened to cheese 1base his entire way through the tournament, even apologizing publicly for poor games throughout the tournament after knocking out NesTea, does a 1 base all-in. Entire finals lasted maybe an hour. Woopdeedoo. If only it were MC and NesTea in the finals -_- Season 4: MKP v MVP: Well, mkp tried. He really did. But apparently, seige tanks are good units, and running marines into them for 4 games in a row doesn't win games. Also, fast expanding in a smoke stack on metalopolis in another main, getting it scouted, and then floating it to the gold instead against siege tanks? That was a rough night for mkp fans. Season 5: MC v July: Another very short 4-1 route against an underwhelming July. MC executes a couple of 1-2 base timing attacks and wins the games. Season 6: NesTea v Inca: Inca... come here a second... Lemme just go over something with you real quick. If you try and go DTs, and they don't work the first 3 times, why on earth would you go DTs a 4th time? I'm just saying. Possibly the shortest, most 1 sided finals to date, even more so than the mkp v mvp finals. I think they aired more commercial/filler content than in-game content. Season 7: NesTea v Losira: NesTea demonstrates why he is the best ZvZ in the world. He is one step ahead of Losira for the entire finals. Yet another 4-0 for the GSL finals. The games were kinda cool, but Losira stood no chance. It looked more like a tutorial on how to ZvZ, rather than a competitive GSL finals for $50,000. Season 8: Top v MVP: Please, let this one sound more positive and promising than the previous Code S finals. | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13389 Posts
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Krehlmar
Sweden1149 Posts
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
And the time-zone doesn't help at all. If they did a re-stream like NASL/IPL (why don't they?!?!) popularity would probably close to double easily, at least among non-hardcore TL viewers.  Honestly, no re-stream is probably one of the biggest issues GSL will have to deal with to keep high interest among foreign viewers. | ||
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Krehlmar
Sweden1149 Posts
On September 08 2011 07:49 zeloso wrote: I think alot of players are losing interest in the gsl because: 1) Commentators, tastosis is what started off the gsl, I know they are busy when important matches for example Code A finals, Code S, and all up/down matches should be casted by tastosis. Everyone is used to their style of commentary. When moletrap and doa or wolf moletrap casts up/down matches or the code S matches I basically just turn off the stream and go watch something else.. They criticize players for making some sort of mistakes when they dont even know what they are talking about 3) Paying 10 bucks for every season where you only enjoy half the games. I hope gomtv makes it so code S cost like bucks and Code A costs like 5 bucks so i can skip out the Code A which i usually do because of the commentary Yeah actually there are to many commentators, I don't like it at all and if I'd have a complaint it'd be this one. I don't care if they're great people and save thousands of puppies... listen to the fans please. I don't enjoy Moletrap because even though I see that he is really trying he isn't improving the way that say Husky and HD has (which I admit is admirably much). Moletrap whines about Kyrix not being a good zerg in up and down whilst he himself didn't know Sensortowers don't see cloaked units... | ||
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