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me_viet
Australia1350 Posts
On September 06 2011 01:03 XsebT wrote: Cool find man! Solution: Make banelings flying units, remove splash?  Can we still keep the bling nest at hatch tech? Or do we have to move it to spire? =[ | ||
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zyzski
United States698 Posts
On September 05 2011 20:33 FataLe wrote: pff, the banelings rolled into the wall. no bug here :D joking. Yeah I hope this gets fixed, could really be abused. don't see how it can be abused. i can't see this ever happening in a real game. | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
On September 11 2011 17:35 Emporio wrote: Okay.... but now you know the bug exists and now you know not to waste your banelings like that. So then it becomes an extra micro contest between the players of trying to snipe the colossus and trying to get it into the baneling-proof position. Or you can remove the glitch and not have banelings explode for no reason. Cliffs are already "baneling proof," you don't need to explode the banelings unnecessarily... The extra micro contest exists without the glitch. Honestly, I think you're not speaking with a clear head and or just trolling... | ||
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Intricate1
169 Posts
On September 05 2011 21:51 Bill Murray wrote: are you implying you knew about this, and neglected telling anyone? Lol, my first thought aswell. "He's left the official team so now He's free to post anything he wants now eh.." | ||
.Aar
2177 Posts
On September 11 2011 17:35 Emporio wrote: Okay.... but now you know the bug exists and now you know not to waste your banelings like that. So then it becomes an extra micro contest between the players of trying to snipe the colossus and trying to get it into the baneling-proof position. Regardless, it's a bug. And that's what this thread is about. Your opinion is irrelevant and unnecessary, and frankly, I can't see why you bothered posting it. Your input offers nothing but an opportunity for this thread to devolve into stupid race wars and matters of "WELL IN MY OPINION THIS IS HOW STARCRAFT SHOULD BE PLAYED." | ||
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Th1rdEye
United States1074 Posts
I rest my case | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
How It Works: The baneling can see the colossus and, although the colossus is positioned on Cliff Level 2 (or higher), its radius extends well into the next lower Cliff Level (level 1, we'll say). The baneling sees that if it moves close enough to the colossus on Cliff Level 1 that it has sufficient range to use its weapon. Its weapon targets the colossus and fires. A baneling weapon fire actually does nothing to the target, though, it instead is a self-targeted instant kill. Upon death, the baneling causes an area of damage that has a flag set to Same Cliff Level. Since the baneling is on Cliff Level 1 and the Colossus is technically on Cliff Level 2, it is excluded from the effect. How It Gets Changed: Some guy turns the flag off. Or, if they don't like baneling explosions splashing over cliff walls, some guy slaps a validator onto the self-destructor that says "must be on the same cliff level." So, yeah, make them know about it if you want them to change it. If you don't, I guess just relax. + Show Spoiler [It Would Take Just One Click] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/iCI2S.png) | ||
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Response
United States1936 Posts
*edit* wow the guy above me read my mind and already answered my question it seems, ty! | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
And yes, i did report it on Blizzard forum, i ve got an official response that it is being investigated, well nothing since, they did not add it to the 1.4 patchnote thus far, instead they were trying to figure out ways to make the infestor useless. | ||
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Response
United States1936 Posts
On September 11 2011 17:58 urashimakt wrote: If you want this changed, start reporting it to Blizzard. It's an incredibly simple tweak and could easily make it into 1.4 if they actually notice it. How It Works: The baneling can see the colossus and, although the colossus is positioned on Cliff Level 2 (or higher), its radius extends well into the next lower Cliff Level (level 1, we'll say). The baneling sees that if it moves close enough to the colossus on Cliff Level 1 that it has sufficient range to use its weapon. Its weapon targets the colossus and fires. A baneling weapon fire actually does nothing to the target, though, it instead is a self-targeted instant kill. Upon death, the baneling causes an area of damage that has a flag set to Same Cliff Level. Since the baneling is on Cliff Level 1 and the Colossus is technically on Cliff Level 2, it is excluded from the effect. How It Gets Changed: Some guy turns the flag off. Or, if they don't like baneling explosions splashing over cliff walls, some guy slaps a validator onto the self-destructor that says "must be on the same cliff level." So, yeah, make them know about it if you want them to change it. If you don't, I guess just relax. + Show Spoiler [It Would Take Just One Click] + But if you changed its splash to all cliff levels couldn't it theoretically hit units on high ground from low ground given a small enough low to high ramp ? Im not sure if there are cliff walls that skinny but just wondering | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On September 11 2011 18:08 Response wrote: But if you changed its splash to all cliff levels couldn't it theoretically hit units on high ground from low ground given a small enough low to high ramp ? Im not sure if there are cliff walls that skinny but just wondering No, because the unit's radius normally prevents it from getting its center close to the cliff wall, but since the colossus ignores cliff walls it can overlap. You would, however, be able to snug a bunch of banelings against the wall and manually detonate them to hit units above. Still that's as simple as using one of their already made validators to say "hey, if the unit isn't on the same cliff level, don't do it man" as opposed to "go for it man, but it won't do anything." Double alternatively, they could include the target of the attack in the damage search or damage the target separately if it's on a different cliff level, which would take about 10 clicks. I didn't advertise that because I like the image of fixing the bug with a single click! | ||
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SpaceFighting
New Zealand690 Posts
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