To me, selecting a unit is an action, therefore it makes no sense to change this in ACTIONS per minutes. But they aren't per minute anyway, so...

Maybe they should call this «activity ratio» :p

xBillehx

United States1289 Posts

August 26 2011 14:04 GMT

#62

It doesn't matter to me. The whole point of the spamming is to keep yourself at a quick pace throughout the game, not to artificially inflate the APM count. I do agree with a name change though, since it's not really counting all actions per minute. Effective APM probably fits better.

Rinnegan5

Netherlands319 Posts

August 26 2011 14:05 GMT

#63

APM doesnt mean shit. The players are still the same and they will still be awesome. Maybe Sjow will look really bad

Malhavoc

Italy308 Posts

August 26 2011 14:06 GMT

#64

I have low APM, and have always ignored those who spam APM at the beginning.. so in theory a smart way to dispaly APM could be nice, even if with little importance.

However.. something which would ignore spamming the SAME control key (like 1111111) would be reasonable, but this just cuts out tabbing through groups, which should considered REAL APM.

In the end, I don't care much.. but it just seems a wrong fix.

SkyTheUnknown

Germany2065 Posts

August 26 2011 14:06 GMT

#65

I think they should not remove the old APM style, but rather just add the new measuring as another parameter. This would be way more helpful, because you could make comparisions between both.

AnalThermometer

Vatican City State334 Posts

August 26 2011 14:07 GMT

#66

I wonder if this is a reaction to people complaining about spammers. The ONLY people who I see concerned about APM are the ones who have a vendetta about losing to someone who is "spamming" actons.

humbre

353 Posts

August 26 2011 14:07 GMT

#67

actually im curious how much apm pros have without spamming

DrPhilOfdOOm

Sweden353 Posts

August 26 2011 14:09 GMT

#68

On August 26 2011 23:07 humbre wrote:
actually im curious how much apm pros have without spamming

I am pretty sure they will drop quite a bit

AdriftSC

Sweden66 Posts

August 26 2011 14:09 GMT

#69

dont really care, ill just keep boxing the workers anyways tho, to keep the tempo up.

Ripper41

284 Posts

August 26 2011 14:10 GMT

#70

This is the best change in sc2 history. The apm spam culture in the sc2 community is unbearable. I have no idea why 60 combat apm players feel the need to spam their apm to 200 at the beginning of the game. They just look like vain jackasses.

humbre

353 Posts

August 26 2011 14:11 GMT

#71

On August 26 2011 23:09 DrPhilOfdOOm wrote:

Show nested quote +

I am pretty sure they will drop quite a bit

im convinced we will see that people like goody or sjow arent far behind rest of the pros in terms of "real" apm

DaemonX

545 Posts

August 26 2011 14:13 GMT

#72

Does anyone realise that clicking between hotkeys ('tapping', day9 calls it) is how good players actually look to see the progress on their various activities? This is an integral part of the game and definitely is a measure of skill.

So apm will be falsely low now?

Pred8oar

Germany281 Posts

August 26 2011 14:13 GMT

#73

apm, well thats the last thing i care about in the whole game unless it comes to an e-penis contest

TSM

Great Britain584 Posts

August 26 2011 14:13 GMT

#74

my apm was 180/190 before the that patch (playing on PTR)
now had been lowered to 80/90, i spam but for useful reason going 4ss4s4s4s4s4s4s44s4s4s4s4 ( I play zerg) to see when larvae pops off.

intotheheart

Canada33091 Posts

August 26 2011 14:14 GMT

#75

Never paid attention anyway, I'm a freaking Platinum player. Although it'd be cool to see how the pro-gamers's APMs will change though.

Deleted User 108965

1096 Posts

August 26 2011 14:15 GMT

#76

On August 26 2011 23:09 AdriftSC wrote:
dont really care, ill just keep boxing the workers anyways tho, to keep the tempo up.

i dont think this has any effect on boxing workers o.O

Treva

United States535 Posts

August 26 2011 14:16 GMT

#77

I feel like the only people who would care are lower league people who feel their APM can set them a part from other lower league people. If I can beat you with 120 apm and you can spam 300 throughout the entire game who cares? Not like someone would be like "Well Player A won the match BUT Player B did have 300 APM so he's still pretty good!"

RouaF

France4121 Posts

August 26 2011 14:17 GMT

#78

I don't really like it. They could do 2 separate counters, APM (counting everything) and something like "useful apm" with this kind of filters.

PredY

Czech Republic1731 Posts

August 26 2011 14:18 GMT

#79

On August 26 2011 22:30 Geovu wrote:
Bad IMO. I will still do the 'tapping' stuff either way, because it is actually necessary and helpful, but it just won't get counted.

In BW clicking on the minimap counted as an action iirc. Blizzard should just stop screwing with crap that wasn't even invented by blizzard. Also fix the 'minute' part of APM, make it count for 60 REAL seconds, because that is what a 'minute' IS.

The only thing this will be helpful for is for idiots like merz who abuse the system, and for Vibe as well, since he does jack all with his 500 APM lol and everyone knows it. The thing is is that 'everyone' already knows to ignore the obvious spammers because they are playing shitty despite having 300+ APM.

think before calling someone an idiot