EPTCould MOBA Games Give Starcraft 2 a Run? - Page 4
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iYiYi
United States489 Posts
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
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Stark1
Canada120 Posts
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BigLighthouse
United Kingdom424 Posts
With dota 2 coming I envisage nothing changing particularly. People from different regions will follow the genres that are already established. The moba genre has quite good following in the West, but not compared to sc2. I dont imagine this will change dramatically | ||
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Kajarn
United States126 Posts
On the other hand, MOBA is a team game, and comes down to synergy, communication and organization. The strategy in a MOBA is fairly straight forward (atleast when compared to SC2.) The complexity lies in the team dynamic most. | ||
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Bobster
Germany3075 Posts
Could be another matter with DOTA 2 depending on how much Valve wants to invest. | ||
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Gaga
Germany433 Posts
and i don't think games like DotA can ever attract viewers who don't play that game. If you don't know the spells and items of the game (too much to learn for casual viewing) i don't think you will enjoy the game. Thats also the reason why i only played 2-3 games in LoL and HoN and still stick with oldskool DotA. i don't want to learn all spells and items again ... and fucking suck and not knowing whats going on until then. | ||
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[Agony]x90
United States853 Posts
On August 10 2011 04:48 Gaga wrote: i am playing DotA since at least 5 years ..... but wtf does the term MOBA stand for ? Multiplayer Online Based Arena. Back when i used to play DotA,i would tell the people that it was an AoS, or Aeon of Strife, which was just a precedent for the game type. Now they finally came up with a proper name for it. Edit: Also, personal though. It has always been my opinion that MOBAs and RTSs go hand in hand, simply because the control scheme for both are very similiar. The singular difference is how many units you can control up to. Otherwise, the idea is that you control your unit(s) from an overhead perspective by inputting commands on various points on a grid. I think the two can grow together with no issue. | ||
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PlosionCornu
Italy814 Posts
On August 10 2011 04:20 Intricate1 wrote: With the Insane popularity, Why not? Whats good for MOBA is good for SC2 IMO. ESports Fighting! It cannot grow outside its borders, its playing fanbase. People who don't play the game (regularly or at all) will not understand what's going on. That does not happen with sc2. | ||
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PlosionCornu
Italy814 Posts
On August 10 2011 04:24 mr_tolkien wrote: The pb is that MOBA's are fusions between Halo and SC2 :p It's a bastard genre of game. More like wc3 heroes + diablo. | ||
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Gaga
Germany433 Posts
On August 10 2011 04:52 [Agony]x90 wrote: Multiplayer Online Based Arena. Back when i used to play DotA,i would tell the people that it was an AoS, or Aeon of Strife, which was just a precedent for the game type. Now they finally came up with a proper name for it. makes sense ^^ AoS ... yep i remember that one. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On August 10 2011 04:53 PlosionCornu wrote: It cannot grow outside its borders, its playing fanbase. People who don't play the game (regularly or at all) will not understand what's going on. That does not happen with sc2. If I didn't play SC2, I'd just see blobs of shit fighting other blobs of shit. It's what I'd see in LoL and DotA as well. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
 ) from any such comparisons or competition with other games.Personally, I'm a Starcraft fan (both BW and 2), not an esports fan. Even when Starcraft 2 in the west shrinks to the size of BW community currently (and it will eventually), I'll still be here and not anywhere else. <3 Other games can do whatever the hell they want, to me they're just video games.  | ||
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Eleaven
772 Posts
On August 10 2011 04:55 Roffles wrote: If I didn't play SC2, I'd just see blobs of shit fighting other blobs of shit. It's what I'd see in LoL and DotA as well. It's what i saw for the first week of playing sc2 too.. MOBA will always be popular, get to rely on other people, get wins you dont deserve, spread blame around, and they are going through a trend of being free.. so pretty potent combo. | ||
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Gaga
Germany433 Posts
On August 10 2011 04:55 Roffles wrote: If I didn't play SC2, I'd just see blobs of shit fighting other blobs of shit. It's what I'd see in LoL and DotA as well. But there are so much more spells, heroes and items in MOBA that its increasingly hard ... In Sc2 you won't need too much knowledge to understand whats going on. | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On an off topic, I don't see how people can watch LoL.... though I do enjoy playing it. Maybe I will enjoy watching it if I try it more. | ||
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PlosionCornu
Italy814 Posts
On August 10 2011 04:55 Roffles wrote: If I didn't play SC2, I'd just see blobs of shit fighting other blobs of shit. It's what I'd see in LoL and DotA as well. It's not even comparable. The entrance barrier posed by mobas is several orders of magnitude higher than sc2. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On August 10 2011 04:56 Gaga wrote: But there are so much more spells, heroes and items in MOBA that its increasingly hard ... In Sc2 you won't need too much knowledge to understand whats going on. So I won't need to know that spells such as EMP or PDD do certain things, as well as Fungals that can change the entire battle? Honestly, to someone who's just spectating and watching the game as a non-player will just see stuff fighting stuff and stuff dying on both sides. Doesn't matter what game they're playing, it's just stuff battling other stuff and shit dying all over the place. Whoever has more stuff leftover in the end is probably gonna win. | ||
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fadestep
United States605 Posts
On August 10 2011 03:33 JiYan wrote: its also been discussed before that the dreamhack success was highly inflated due to LoL incorporating the stream into the game itself so that if anyone would log into the game - they would essentially be counted as a viewer. this combined with the fact that there are too many competitors probably hurts its chances of making it as big as sc2. HoN is now f2p and theres dota 2 coming out, i just dont see there being enough stability in their 'scene' to really get a consistent thing like starcraft has had. And it has been refuted over and over and over and over because people like you still believe that this happened when it didn't. When you logged in there was an announcement + a link to the stream, but it neither streamed inside the game, took you to the stream, or counted you as a viewer. The number of times this has been stated is absolutely ridiculous, but for some reason people still don't get it. --- On topic, I think the massive popularity and growing appeal of MOBA games is really insane and it is certainly a more popular genre than RTS. In addition, the leading MOBA at the minute (LoL) has a hugely superior playerbase to Starcraft 2. General popularity doesn't necessarily mean the game will be more competitive or more of an esport, but there is no doubt that the MOBA genre is thriving, growing, and beginning to cultivate a legitimate esports scene that will certainly challenge Starcraft 2 in terms of popularity and viewership, if not money and level of competition. | ||
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Logarythm
United States264 Posts
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