Brood Lords having the high ground bonus - Page 5

On August 09 2011 13:53 NET wrote:


You do have to pay for interceptors... It should be patched one way or another because both the BL and carriers have similar mechanics, would be the logical thing for Blizzard to do.

On August 09 2011 14:03 NET wrote:


From melee ground upgrades. Brood Lord

On August 09 2011 14:03 NET wrote:


From melee ground upgrades. Brood Lord

On August 09 2011 14:06 theBALLS wrote:

im a little confused by that article. so what do air upgrades do for broodlords?

On August 09 2011 14:10 Mysticesper wrote:


Broodlords shoot a broodling from the air. This is a missile attack that deals 20 damage. Because it is a broodlord attack, damage is increased via air upgrades.

The broodlord's broodling shots are then "transformed" into broodlings. These broodlings are like any other ground unit and are upgraded by ground upgrades.

From my understanding, this bug is because the broodlord's "broodling shot" is not from the broodlord itself, but the subordinate units that fly with the broodlord, causing the broodlord to not be revealed.


Think of it like this. Lets say a dwarf chucking unit existed.

Unit A chucks dwarf. Dwarf deals 20 damage on impact (air upgrades). Dwarf continues to attack with his axe (melee upgrades).
Unit A is the broodlord, the dwarf is the broodling.

On August 09 2011 14:16 millardkillmore wrote:
does this matter at all? i mean, you can't see the broodlord itself, but you know it's there (and you know it's position since you can see the broodlings). it's not like it is being protected from attack, since the muta in the first example isn't actually targetable by those stalkers. when something attacks from high ground you see where it is, but you cannot select or attack it unless you have vision. that would kind of defeat the whole purpose of high ground advantage. besides, anyone who has been cliffed on the old lost temple knows that just becasue you can see the tnak doesn't mean your spines can hit the tank.

On August 09 2011 09:47 eviltomahawk wrote:

In some situations, perhaps. However, I could imagine Brood Lords besieging an expansion from high ground while Turrets and Cannons are unable to fire back due to this high ground vision bug. I often see units abusing the high ground overlooking the low-ground expansions on Tal'Darim, and I can imagine a lone Brood Lord or two abusing that cliff while the main army is out of position.

It's a very interesting find, and I imagine a lot more players and casters may start experimenting with this bug before Blizzard inevitably patches it... eventually.

On August 09 2011 10:15 figq wrote:
Interesting find, thanks. The reason, I suppose, could be that carrier's interceptors return to the carrier, and thus remain associated with it in some common class of objects, while broodlings once launched become fully autonomous units unrelated to the brood lord anymore, because they just die shortly. At least that's the only difference I can see.

/offtopic: zerg players really don't use broodlings well enough yet. It's surprisingly rare that someone would actually control them separately. As a result, very often you see broodlings not doing anything.

P.S. The proper comparison would be with Infested Terrans. Shooting them from high ground does not reveal the infestors, because the infested terrans are fully autonomous - unlike interceptors.

Another proof of this difference is:
- When you kill a carrier, all interceptors die immediately
- When you kill a brood lord, his launched broodlings don't die immediately
- When you kill an infestor, his launched infested terrans don't die immediately

So no, it's not a bug, clearly. You won't see interceptors living without a carrier, ever; they are associated. But you would see broodlings living without a brood lord; they are separate. Working as intended.