EPTOn August 03 2011 11:35 Whole wrote:
As long as I just stay on TL, everything will be fine.
As long as I just stay on TL, everything will be fine.
The LR threads are doing it too.
Especially when an American plays, the EU people jump all over it.
the attitude towards losing players from viewers - Page 3
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
The LR threads are doing it too. Especially when an American plays, the EU people jump all over it. | ||
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kedinik
United States352 Posts
Real-time youtube comments, pretty much. | ||
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dizzy101
Netherlands2066 Posts
Basically, it's an instance of the internet dickwad theory, as shown in this here pic: ![[image loading]](http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/215499488_8pSZr-L-2.jpg) | ||
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Cassel_Castle
United States820 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Spades vs Machine in the IPL team league. Just because someone's masters or grandmasters doesn't mean they don't make bronze/silver level mistakes sometimes, especially when the pressure is on. | ||
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Beastyqt
Serbia516 Posts
Also, if casters are reading this, unless you are Artosis or Day9 (read game knowledge), please dont say while you commentate "omg huge mistake" or "he should do this instead of that or he did this wrong etc" (trying to find mistakes of the player whole game) just commentate the game itself and let people decide who is bad and who isnt, even tho some casters might not realise it but if you are well known caster and say that X player played terrible you should consider that some people will think that for him for..long time until proven otherwise which can be hard sometimes because one BO3 series doesnt say anything about that player. Example of this is Artosis (dont get me wrong I love him as a person and love his casts) - he says for some player "this guy is sick good" and 6 hours after everyone in spamming TL "wow that guy so good" just because he said it. This can be applied even easier in negative effect. Another thing that casters should pay attention to, player X attacks player Y and player Y got no army (teching) and caster is like "WHY ISNT HE ATTACKING!!! HE GOT NO UNITS!! OMG!! i cant belive he isnt attacking!", you have to realise game is a lot easier when you have map hack on and see everything thats going on  But every caster just like players are learning every day about game and improving their casts, hopefully this will help some to improve even faster | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
just watch the games and don't comment | ||
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
It makes me question how many people who post on teamliquid are immature but hiding it everywhere but on stream chats. I think it has to be said that a lot of people on this site hide how they actually are just so they aren't banned. I could only imagine how much better the community was during BW days :\ | ||
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Swad1000
United States366 Posts
If the mods are not doing there job tell the broadcaster and tell them to get new mods. Chats fun to talk shit on and say whatever and even more fun when people make threads about how annoying it is. Best is "omg they are from 4chan scum of earth". Who takes that shit seriously? tldr: tell the broadcaster to get new mods or close the chat. White-ras chat is moderated well from what I remember | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
I don't see a problem with the latter. | ||
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Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
They are a very small minority of the playerbase, very vocal and very annoying, for the most part they know little to nothing about the game, and are just idiots. | ||
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Joey Wheeler
Korea (North)276 Posts
In the end, this negativity has good points and the only good way to stop is by actually getting better. How often do you see people talking shit about blunders MC or Nestea did? I'd really like someone to point that out for me. | ||
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KawaiiRice
United States2914 Posts
)From what I've seen though some stream viewers will find something to complain about no matter what -_-;; | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On August 03 2011 11:52 Joey Wheeler wrote: Watching Machine vs Spades right now was so incredibly cringe worthy I can't help but notice how justifiable this "negativity" towards pro gamers is. As a Mid Masters Zerg (by no means am I good in any way), even I felt that I could have handled multiple situations much better than Machine did. I mean seriously, losing 8 mutas to marines because he wasn't paying attention to them? Someone who does this constantly does not deserve to be called a pro gamer, and this is exactly what Machine did as he continued to make these huge blunders throughout the game. It's not just Machine, I've even seen Rainbow just leave 30 marines by themselves on a watch tower so he can donate them to an entire Zerg army for no reason. In the end, this negativity has good points and the only good way to stop is by actually getting better. How often do you see people talking shit about blunders MC or Nestea did? I'd really like someone to point that out for me. Quite often if you read the LR threads. Especially when nestea dies to something like a bunker rush. | ||
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doner0
United States233 Posts
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Joey Wheeler
Korea (North)276 Posts
On August 03 2011 11:55 SafeAsCheese wrote: Quite often if you read the LR threads. Especially when nestea dies to something like a bunker rush. I can guarantee the ratio of someone calling Nestea shit compared to someone calling him a bonjwa is over 1 : 10000 | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On August 03 2011 11:59 Joey Wheeler wrote: I can guarantee the ratio of someone calling Nestea shit compared to someone calling him a bonjwa is over 1 : 10000 Until he loses a game, and people crawl our of their cracks. that's the point this thread is making It doesn't matter who a player is, if they have one bad game they suddenly are shit now, it's annoying | ||
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TERRANLOL
United States626 Posts
On August 03 2011 11:52 Joey Wheeler wrote: Watching Machine vs Spades right now was so incredibly cringe worthy I can't help but notice how justifiable this "negativity" towards pro gamers is. As a Mid Masters Zerg (by no means am I good in any way), even I felt that I could have handled multiple situations much better than Machine did. I mean seriously, losing 8 mutas to marines because he wasn't paying attention to them? Someone who does this constantly does not deserve to be called a pro gamer, and this is exactly what Machine did as he continued to make these huge blunders throughout the game. It's not just Machine, I've even seen Rainbow just leave 30 marines by themselves on a watch tower so he can donate them to an entire Zerg army for no reason. In the end, this negativity has good points and the only good way to stop is by actually getting better. How often do you see people talking shit about blunders MC or Nestea did? I'd really like someone to point that out for me. Well. In all fairness, let's take something into consideration: You and he are both on the ladder. Yet, you're not playing with those guys (which is my assumption). And we know that they're on top of the ladder. So as an overall rule his play must be better than yours. Maybe the idea of losing 8 mutas to marines is a blunder and is cost inneffective in itself, but maybe a mistake you make which makes you incapable of making that mistake is paying too much attention to your mutalisks and not enough attention to other things like macro. So in 90% of the situations he's put in he has awesome macro and doesn't lose his mutalisks, but you never lose your mutalisks (which I doubt in itself) and you don't have excellent macro most of the time. My bet is, even making those mistakes, players like EGmachine and Spades would still beat you. BUT regardless I think a better question is why do people get so much enjoyment out of pointing out other people's mistakes? I frequent a website called 9gag.com. It's an imageboard for funny pictures. It used to be a lot better but now most of the "funny pictures" are pictures of people saying stupid things on yahoo answers and someone saying something "smart" in response. Or they're posts of how christians are stupid or how some group of people is stupid... I guess it's just something people enjoy doing, talking about other's mistakes. I think overall though, these people come out to be people who don't accomplish much in general. I think a certain amount of humbleness really helps in making yourself better than you were before. | ||
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PopcornColonel
United States769 Posts
On August 03 2011 10:43 Msr wrote: well boxer has proven that he is a top player and he can make 1000 mistakes and will still always be a great player and almost nobody has the right to say otherwise. As for the machine/spades match, machine played poorly for his usual self and spades is a hacker so nobody cares about him. I understand that Machine was playing poorly, but I don't find this grounds to outright call him a terrible player. Also, I don't know what you're referring to when you say spades is a hacker. Do you have a source for this information? | ||
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Joey Wheeler
Korea (North)276 Posts
On August 03 2011 12:00 SafeAsCheese wrote: Until he loses a game, and people crawl our of their cracks. that's the point this thread is making It doesn't matter who a player is, if they have one bad game they suddenly are shit now, it's annoying It feels like you're making this completely up. From my experience I've never seen any major negativity towards Nestea losing to a cheese, quite the opposite in fact. | ||
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Tegin
United States840 Posts
As far as commentator's go..not sure why people complain nonstop and feel they need to announce their hate to the world. Don't like the commentator? Mute it! | ||
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