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jindi5
Profile Joined December 2021
China163 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-06 08:49:44
April 06 2025 08:38 GMT
#1
Balloon Donation Statistics for SC:BW Streamer Universitys Organizer in SOOP/AfreecaTV


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https://postimg.cc/BPfBx5vh

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nS4tlepkgCrRV7u47rLWljmCT3xK0_wC/view?usp=sharing

https://photos.app.goo.gl/MJoggVgxasBARTZM7
Soft_General_5023
Profile Joined December 2023
65 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-06 16:59:26
April 06 2025 16:59 GMT
#2
it's really like 60 million USD in total revenue for last year?
Expensive-Law-9830
Profile Joined April 2024
110 Posts
April 06 2025 17:22 GMT
#3
On April 07 2025 01:59 Soft_General_5023 wrote:
it's really like 60 million USD in total revenue for last year?


Some people in another forum would say it is fake and that the 2k unique broodwar channels last month are totally made up too

https://streamscharts.com/games?search=starcraft&time=30-days
Expensive-Law-9830
Profile Joined April 2024
110 Posts
April 06 2025 17:27 GMT
#4
Maybe foreigners should create their own university too... with Artosis
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines57 Posts
April 07 2025 04:07 GMT
#5
I watched one of those "university" proleagues yesterday. JSA vs MBU i think.

Apart from the Ample vs Shine match that was pretty amazing, the other matches were.... subpar to put it lightly. Ofc these streamers can't hold a candle against actual pros or heck high level amateurs on the ladder but I guess the entertainment value that these university leagues outweigh the quality of broodwar these leagues have. It also brings them a ton of cash too as seen with the data in the OP, even more than the daily proleagues shockingly enough.

Perhaps the foreign scene can do such things as well? But IDK if there are streamers who are willing to do these kinds of leagues.
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smilevideo
Profile Joined August 2015
4 Posts
April 07 2025 05:30 GMT
#6
I have a couple theories on why the university system draws in money and viewers

1. The university tournaments show who is best at teaching starcraft, not playing it. The ability to teach is a skill itself that has real value.
2. Koreans have this certain attraction to being loyal fans of $insert group of people$, e.g. kpop. In starcraft, pro teams are no longer a thing, so this works as a fun surrogate.
3. There is some entrenched misogyny in Korean culture, which this reinforces. The coaching streams place the male in the position of respected teacher, while the girl is always the lowly, clueless student. The actual games and post-game feedback are pretty much just the males berating the females too.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44065 Posts
April 07 2025 08:20 GMT
#7
I heard about SC University as far as I understand they operate like a streaming fanservice starcraft group.

Whatever keeps the game alive and glad they are making money from it
this is a quote
fmwatasa
Profile Joined April 2025
3 Posts
April 07 2025 09:47 GMT
#8
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands744 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-07 09:55:57
April 07 2025 09:55 GMT
#9
a lot of variety content, loyalty, story arcs, fanservice, comedy, competition, escapism, mukbangs etc. A lot of donos for teams also go through coaches or some of their members. These numbers are from the the owners only?
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Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
176 Posts
April 07 2025 10:19 GMT
#10
wow this is pretty sick, 60m$ for just the korean broodwar scene, gotta love those guys
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines57 Posts
April 07 2025 13:40 GMT
#11
On April 07 2025 14:30 smilevideo wrote:
3. There is some entrenched misogyny in Korean culture, which this reinforces. The coaching streams place the male in the position of respected teacher, while the girl is always the lowly, clueless student. The actual games and post-game feedback are pretty much just the males berating the females too.


On that point...

I remember watching a JSA match a few days back, forgot which team they were against, and they lost. Ample was shitting on the girls so hard that it really irritated me and turned off the stream. Ofc I couldn't understand Korean so I don't know what he's actually saying to the girls but it sounded really harsh. Really felt bad for the girls that they were given this kind of treatment.
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Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines57 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-07 13:48:19
April 07 2025 13:48 GMT
#12
On April 07 2025 19:19 Zografa wrote:
wow this is pretty sick, 60m$ for just the korean broodwar scene, gotta love those guys


I wouldn't just say this amount of money is going to help the korean broodwar scene, at least in the competitive/professional sense.

After all, it is possible that most of this money is going to the owners of these universities and not necessarily to the streamers and pros involved. Maybe the pros have higher pay than the streamers? But i would imagine the leads of these universities get the bulk of it. Maybe.
Yuru Yuri best anime
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1397 Posts
April 09 2025 21:29 GMT
#13
Baffling you guys are arguing over misogyny conspiracy being reason for sc uni when there's much simpler reason:

Simps
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8614 Posts
April 10 2025 05:14 GMT
#14
yeah that misogyny angle is laughable.
the reality is that no one gives a fuck about some no name random amateur male starcraft player. but pretty girl playing starcraft? views and money.
the girls get berated pretty harshly sometimes but its usually pretty justified. if you see that a female streamer is just coasting along and using the university as a means to rake in money without actually applying herself, why wouldnt you get pissed off? the coaches want to see some level of professionalism from the girls regardless of their skill level, because at the end of the day the university content is still a competition. there are some girls who take it pretty seriously and try to improve but there are others that are pretty much staring into empty space when they play and just use the content for their personal gain. these are the girls that get shit on and called out when they inevitably lose.
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
176 Posts
April 10 2025 11:23 GMT
#15
you gotta leave that politics crap out of this
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1399 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-10 14:44:18
April 10 2025 11:56 GMT
#16
I agree that misogyny (dislike/hate of women) is not what's on display in the female leagues. You must have a radical ideology to think that.

I don't know what they are saying in those streams, but it also doesn't seem to be a sexist show in general ("haha, women can't play video games"), at least that doesn't seem to be the main theme (the contrary rather) but might show up in the commentary/post-game scolding, and mostly in chat commentary presumably.
edit: On second thought: In that picture below, the whole placement (women in back, guys in front), the chatter distribution (95% guys) is really awkward for western eyes. I want to be careful and not universalize my views too much but it's hard to watch sometimes.

Over-the-top political ideologies might still stem from good, more differenciated sociological or cultural observations though.
SK has really big problems with sexism (like most countries, to different degrees), noone should deny that.
But if I think of that and SOOP, then these shows come to mind with 1-2 (male) hosts and dozens of generic model-beauties sitting around passively until they're allowed to stand up and do some moves. They chose to be there, surely, but the whole thing is just a disgrace to exist.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
April 10 2025 12:16 GMT
#17
Talking about the girls being berated, in the game being played right now, how can the girl have constantly 250+ apm but she's seemingly doing less things than me on one hand lol. I'd say I'd lose my shit too watching them play like that haha. Especially when there are $10k or something like that on the line.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7765 Posts
April 10 2025 12:56 GMT
#18
Calm has over 32k viewers!
He is with Rain, Horangee, Killer and Mong !

And some ladies!

They receive many donations !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2530 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-10 13:17:16
April 10 2025 13:15 GMT
#19
On April 10 2025 21:56 prosatan wrote:
Calm has over 32k viewers!
He is with Rain, Horangee, Killer and Mong !

And some ladies!

They receive many donations !

Yeah they won.
On the other side, the girls of (of JSA, the loser team) are getting scolded and crying on stream. I can see why it's uncomfortable to watch for some. Also is that Zelot? who is also getting lectured by the manager lol.

Also what the fuck is this Mong:
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End1ess
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada73 Posts
April 10 2025 15:38 GMT
#20
On April 07 2025 01:59 Soft_General_5023 wrote:
it's really like 60 million USD in total revenue for last year?


if not all, most of those revenue are from dancing girls. They are operated by the same university leaders but different girls.
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