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CellTech
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada396 Posts
July 29 2011 05:03 GMT
#121
A lot of my friends bought into the hype and soon realized "hey this isnt a FPS and I hate command and conquer type games"

It's just not for everyone I guess.
^ Probably a Troll Post
A.J.
Profile Joined August 2010
United States209 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 05:09:09
July 29 2011 05:08 GMT
#122
My cousin bought the game and played with me for about a week until school started. Then he never touched it again.

I guess you could say SC2 was in style among the casual/ ConsoleFPS crowd when it first came out.
Take a chance
Doomblaze
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1292 Posts
July 29 2011 05:15 GMT
#123
im with everyone else here

I have 5 friends who convinced me to buy and another 20 or so who got it it because they were saying how awesome it was, we all started playing 1v1, in 2 weeks 10 of them quit, 10 of them only play custom games, 1 just started playing 1v1 again, and the other 4 play teams or cusoms occasionally. Most of them play LoL. SC2 is a very time consuming, stressful game, and its way too difficult for most people.

my friends who play 1v1 occasionally are all in plat, one just got promoted to diamond when i got promoted to masters, and the different between the bottom of diamond and masters is absurd, he cant beat me no matter what he does.

Hooray for hardcore games, weeding out the weak!
In Mushi we trust
Banchan
Profile Joined May 2011
United States179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 05:33:46
July 29 2011 05:28 GMT
#124
I feel like the pressure is something that can definitely be overcome even by "casuals," I myself starting out as one at launch, placing in bronze and staying there for 100+ games. I lost a lot of ladder games at first but just kept going and eventually made it to masters.

A large issue for new players is the pure amount of effort that must be put into the game before even getting one's first legitimate win. There is no real tutorial on how to play multiplayer and despite the availability of resources such as liquipedia, many people are quite lost about what to do in 1v1.

That leads into another rather large problem: people like winning. A lot of my friends simply beat the campaign then quit after 5-6 ladder games. The campaign is designed to be winnable by the average gamer, something that attracts a large group of people. Conversely, people hate losing; just think about how many times have you been BMed on ladder.

In my opinion, it is not a player who desires to get better at starcraft that actually stays and grinds it out until the higher leagues, but rather someone who is willing to gracefully accept losses and move on - something that is sorely lacked in the stereotypical modern gamer screaming over his mic or blaming his partners for dragging him down.

I consider myself lucky since I have several realID friends around my skill level in 1v1 and quite a few that are active in ladder games despite being in lower leagues.
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 05:33:37
July 29 2011 05:30 GMT
#125
I only have one friend who actively plays anymore. He 4gated his way to diamond in season 1 and has stayed there since. He's better than me at playing protoss I can beat him with both of the other races even though I'm a league lower than him. I'm betting when he does placements he will be in platinum this season as he was playing bottom diamond and my level of platinum last I checked.

Everyone else has either quit altogether or just plays customs (Star Battle and other crap like that.). Once in a blue moon they will log in and get me to play team games with them but that's about it.

I am glad that people are being weeded out. This means only the devoted are staying, making the level of play improve (hopefully). More players who play for the late game and fewer one basers.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
CellTech
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada396 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 05:36:07
July 29 2011 05:33 GMT
#126
My buddy said his entire store (tiger direct, it's a large chain computer and electronic store) bought the game. Like 12 people+. One guy therewas better than everyone, so 11 of them just stopped playing. What's happening to people these days?! I have awesome rivalries with 2 of my friends in everything from tennis, to cod, to Starcraft, to billiards, to weightlifting. When I win in one these games, or perform better at something, it MOTIVATES them to get better. And vice versa. So many people just give up that it's disgusting.
^ Probably a Troll Post
a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
July 29 2011 05:37 GMT
#127
Thanks for the graphs/info, it's super cool seeing how SC2 is developing :D

Also, I've found it a lot easier to get my friends into SC2, compared to BW. Before, I had to show them Cholera's Reach commentaries and even then, I'd only be able to get them play Fastest Maps (D, and 1 friend to play 1v1s with me. Now, there's so much English commentary out there, I have gotten so many of my friends into SC2. Granted they're still not that great, but it's a start, and they'll be good one day maybe .
VOD finder guy for sc2ratings.com/ ! aka: ogndrahcir, a9azn2 | Go ZerO, Stork, Sea, and KawaiiRice :D | nesc2league.com/forum/index.php | youtube.com/watch?v=oaGtjWL5mZo
Banchan
Profile Joined May 2011
United States179 Posts
July 29 2011 05:41 GMT
#128
On July 29 2011 14:33 CellTech wrote:
My buddy said his entire store (tiger direct, it's a large chain computer and electronic store) bought the game. Like 12 people+. One guy therewas better than everyone, so 11 of them just stopped playing. What's happening to people these days?! I have awesome rivalries with 2 of my friends in everything from tennis, to cod, to Starcraft, to billiards, to weightlifting. When I win in one these games, or perform better at something, it MOTIVATES them to get better. And vice versa. So many people just give up that it's disgusting.


Rivalry usually implies that both parties have a decent chance at victory

The chances of someone getting 2-3 lucky kills in CoD are pretty high compared to the chances of a bronze taking a game off a master. When people see something as hopeless, most will just give up
imPERSONater
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1324 Posts
July 29 2011 05:48 GMT
#129
I personally love the 1v1 ladder and the sense I am improving by playing better people. But only one of my 4 or 5 RL friends has continued to play past the first couple of months. I love the fact I can always find something to improve, but I could see it being intimidating too.
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9033 Posts
July 29 2011 05:51 GMT
#130
So many noobs left... But the number of games still remains about the same. Which is good I think.
FLiPNoTiK
Profile Joined May 2007
United States62 Posts
July 29 2011 05:56 GMT
#131
Muffley needs to get on Starcraft II more often IMO
Werk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States294 Posts
July 29 2011 06:00 GMT
#132
Ladder anxiety is a big issues, a lot of my freinds dont play as much as they used to, BUT that being said, they still watch all the big events and probably more so now than when the game came out. It certainly seems like the devoted group of players that love it are staying and the people who played the game because it was new, will come and go....
Do Werk Son
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
July 29 2011 07:03 GMT
#133
There are other reasons why people might leave. I myself just found I didn't enjoy the game anymore. I was playing it because I wanted to get better and not because it was fun and then suddenly realized I'm not enjoying myself anymore. I realized I was committing probably 2 hours a day to something I didn't enjoy and came to the conclusion it wasn't worth it any more.

Why I stopped finding it fun is a good question that I'm not even sure of the answer too. Was it the game? the environment (Bnet) I don't know.
RogerShah
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands131 Posts
July 29 2011 07:37 GMT
#134
On July 29 2011 16:03 Greg_J wrote:
There are other reasons why people might leave. I myself just found I didn't enjoy the game anymore. I was playing it because I wanted to get better and not because it was fun and then suddenly realized I'm not enjoying myself anymore. I realized I was committing probably 2 hours a day to something I didn't enjoy and came to the conclusion it wasn't worth it any more.

Why I stopped finding it fun is a good question that I'm not even sure of the answer too. Was it the game? the environment (Bnet) I don't know.


That could have been my post. I only play ffa once in a while. Keep watching streams though.
eloist
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1017 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 07:45:26
July 29 2011 07:43 GMT
#135
I feel that this is an incredibly high retention rate considering that S1 is when the game came out. Considering that, I wouldn't be surprised if this is an actual growth if corrected for first week drop outs.

If 11 out of your 12 friends stopped playing rather quickly, then this is actually growing.

Does show that the game is going much stronger in the US and EU than in Korea though.

Battle net 2.0 is a lonely place though. That part somehow worked better in WC3.
CellTech
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada396 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 07:49:29
July 29 2011 07:48 GMT
#136
I wish b.net's custom game selection was like broodwars, the newest created make the top of the list. I feel like will smith in I am legend when I want to play a genuinely fun custom game that happens to be on page 7.
^ Probably a Troll Post
HubertFelix
Profile Joined April 2010
France631 Posts
July 29 2011 07:49 GMT
#137
It's not a problem for Blizzard since they'll probably buy the extensions for the campaign at least.
I guess a lot of people just leave the game because of the crappy bnet 2.0.
I hope they update bnet with the releases of heart of swarm/diablo3.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
July 29 2011 07:58 GMT
#138
On July 28 2011 10:10 Highways wrote:
Most my friends don't play SC2 anymore, they still watch progaming and streams though.

I hope blizzard fixes up bnet so it's more fun.

+ Show Spoiler +
Seriously Bnet should be promoting a community in it:

[...]
- Unranked automatching
[...]


Unranked automatching would lead to a nearly dead ladder. Most people would prepare in unranked matches and only ladder when they feel they are ready. Ladder gets harder, leading to an even greater use for unranked automatches.

I think we need a shift in the community mindset. "Hey you are Bronze top 25 in your division? That's great, man! Can we watch a replay together where you won?"

Shared replay watching is essential imo. SC2 lives through the community experience.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-29 07:58:52
July 29 2011 07:58 GMT
#139
Most people just give up. Most of my friends are gold - diamond and how hard they even try, they just can't get higher. Instead of asking for advice, they just quit.
dream-_-
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States1857 Posts
July 29 2011 07:59 GMT
#140
I am sure it has been said multiple times, but it is the lack of a social atmosphere that keeps casual gamers away. It is almost impossible to meet people outside of the forums other than simply talking to the people you play against, and in that case most people just want to be quiet and play. But the biggest piece is no clan implimentation. One of the BIGGEST reason people stay with WoW for such a long time is a dedicated group of friends who all play together and accomplish things together. A guild chat would be amazing for the game IMO.

Keep in mind however, I dont give a crap about any if this, I just want to play my game and be completely anti social while I am doing it. However I think this is the opposite of what most people are looking for.
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