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wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
July 23 2011 02:19 GMT
#201
On July 23 2011 11:17 Blasphemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 11:07 Fionn wrote:
On July 23 2011 11:04 unoriginalname wrote:
On July 23 2011 11:01 BionicSC wrote:
Fnatic/IM next? =)


Fnatic recently got Rain, they have their token Korean. Mousesports still need theirs, so perhaps IM-Mouz?


IM and Startale have bunch of sponsors. Don't think they need a partnership.

HoSeo, though, now THAT's a team where a foreign team should want to partner with. Whatever that coach is doing, he has a team full of amazing players with great potential.

Hoseo have gone from a joke to koreas most promising team.


Actually since they're being sponsored by an University, how would partnerships with the university work in terms of process and deals? The more I think of it, the more I'm not entirely sure how their team works.
Gameplay > Personality
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
July 23 2011 02:22 GMT
#202
Given Complexities and EG's history, and how EG exec basically put down these sorts of deals plus how team MVP specially mentioned complexities respectful approach....this seems kinda funny.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
July 23 2011 02:22 GMT
#203
On July 23 2011 11:18 Sina92 wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't care too much about these joint ventures? I prefer to keep track of the players individually and follow them.

Players cannot grow and develop without financial and travel support. Teams allow them to do this.

Personally, I'm not a fan of these joint ventures as I much rather prefer teams to just merge or something so as to keep the identity of the team consistent. But I think it's the start of potential partnerships into the future, so who knows.
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freeloader625
Profile Joined May 2010
United States180 Posts
July 23 2011 02:23 GMT
#204
Grats!
harhar!
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany190 Posts
July 23 2011 02:23 GMT
#205
col will be very strong now after merging with root and now this.
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
July 23 2011 02:23 GMT
#206
On July 23 2011 11:18 Sina92 wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't care too much about these joint ventures? I prefer to keep track of the players individually and follow them.

And this allows great players like DRG to play foreign events
Aurdon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2007 Posts
July 23 2011 02:24 GMT
#207
I really do not like these 'partnerships.' I wish the foreign teams would just strive to create their own teams with their own players with their own prohouses. Create more opportunities for players to live the dream not shrink the pool of sponsorships and money by renting a few Koreans.

StarcraftKevin
Profile Joined August 2009
United States285 Posts
July 23 2011 02:24 GMT
#208
hell ya
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SoJu.WeRRa
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)820 Posts
July 23 2011 02:25 GMT
#209
Sounds good for them. Good luck!
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Aaronplayshorn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States15 Posts
July 23 2011 02:25 GMT
#210
when will this happen for oGs and Liquid?
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1ManArmy
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands895 Posts
July 23 2011 02:25 GMT
#211
On July 23 2011 11:18 Sina92 wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't care too much about these joint ventures? I prefer to keep track of the players individually and follow them.


But these joint ventures make it possible for your favourite korean players to play in more tournaments than before. It also makes it possible for your favourite foreign players to showcase their stuff against the best players possible, which will improve their skill.

Good reason to care about these joint ventures it seems
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ForlornHope
Profile Joined June 2011
Vietnam111 Posts
July 23 2011 02:26 GMT
#212
mouz is the only team left that not invole with the korean. Mouz Fighting!!
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StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
July 23 2011 02:26 GMT
#213
On July 23 2011 11:24 Aurdon wrote:
I really do not like these 'partnerships.' I wish the foreign teams would just strive to create their own teams with their own players with their own prohouses. Create more opportunities for players to live the dream not shrink the pool of sponsorships and money by renting a few Koreans.



Uh, "living the dream" is for foreigners to be able to go to Korea and train there. So your point is moot.
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
July 23 2011 02:26 GMT
#214
My mind is trying to comprehend and work out the amount of news in eSports recently. Great news for MVP, and great news for future Western tournaments.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
July 23 2011 02:26 GMT
#215
On July 23 2011 11:14 nihoh wrote:
These partnerships seem so meaningless to me.


being able to rely on outside foreign teams relieves a lot of pressure off of Korean teams to send their players to foreign events
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
July 23 2011 02:26 GMT
#216
On July 23 2011 11:25 1ManArmy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 11:18 Sina92 wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't care too much about these joint ventures? I prefer to keep track of the players individually and follow them.


But these joint ventures make it possible for your favourite korean players to play in more tournaments than before. It also makes it possible for your favourite foreign players to showcase their stuff against the best players possible, which will improve their skill.

Good reason to care about these joint ventures it seems

And if they have a decent amount of success, it's possible more sponsorships will come to them, which is great for everybody involved.
Aurdon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2007 Posts
July 23 2011 02:26 GMT
#217
On July 23 2011 11:23 Blasphemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 11:18 Sina92 wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't care too much about these joint ventures? I prefer to keep track of the players individually and follow them.

And this allows great players like DRG to play foreign events


No it allows for Koreans to remain dominant by spending money on flying them all around world instead of the foreign teams to man up and create their own teams with their own players and their own teamhouses and training regimens.

There might be a lot of great players in the foreign scene that haven't had the opportunity to train and grow because all the resources are being spent on Koreans.

Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 02:30:13
July 23 2011 02:27 GMT
#218
I don't see this as coL not growing their own players. I still mainly see DRG and Genius as MVP players. Just like I see MC and Nada as oGs players. Just like MarineKing and Polt as Prime players. They're going to live their normal lives in Korea with their team, but have more financial backing and get to go to foreign tournaments. This also means if coL wants to, you know, actually grow their home grown talent, they can send them to the MVP house for a few months and have them practice with DRG, Genius, Keen, Violet, etc. This helps both teams immensely if coL takes the opportunity to send players to Korea.

Only thing I don't like is that DRG won't be wearing his awesome MVP jacket at MLG. If he wins, most of the non-GSL/Korean watchers won't get exposed to the MVP team.
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StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
July 23 2011 02:28 GMT
#219
On July 23 2011 11:26 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 11:14 nihoh wrote:
These partnerships seem so meaningless to me.


being able to rely on outside foreign teams relieves a lot of pressure off of Korean teams to send their players to foreign events


Exactly. Over the next few months there will be Korean players coming to foreign tournaments, and foreign players moving to Korea to train. The financial burden is essentially halved when there is another team paying for the costs
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
Mayor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States472 Posts
July 23 2011 02:29 GMT
#220
Wow, we're finally bridging the gap between Korea and the outside world, this is really great. There might not be any foreigners anymore eventually, just players.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler
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