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FryktSkyene
United States1327 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:20 Corrosive wrote: In your mind everyone = everyone in reality everyone = you and a few other people upset about this. Weird how this is about the Team EG in general and not this puma crap. | ||
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thedz
United States217 Posts
It appears there's something wonky inside TSL, and the players aren't happy because of it. | ||
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IceSlipper
Australia1028 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:21 EternaL_9 wrote: LOL coach lee, u mad? Jk, but how exactly would EG have approached you IF they wanted puma? "Uhh hey, we want your best player, sup" No. They shouldn't at all, unless his contract is expiring.. | ||
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lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:21 SwirlQ wrote: There needs to be a mix between what we have now in SC2 and what KESPA did with BW. Definitely. This current free for all is not good for Sc2 long term. | ||
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Vinski
505 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:19 HolyArrow wrote: This is what I'm wondering about too, actually. But no one seems to be responding to that concern... From what I know the TSL practice regiment isn't like other teams in korea I'm pretty sure its actually very laid back. Also EG has a team house and they are all moving into it after Anaheim. So yeah. Also he can still play on the Korean server and I'm sure Puma has friends from korea who are top notch who will still play him. | ||
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Bobble
Australia1493 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:19 Lexxes wrote: yes, this sums up sc2 scene pretty much :-) well done he missed the part where FXO just walks in and buys everyone.  | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:21 Fianchetto wrote: Puma going to EG isn't bad the the player, its good for the player. He actually gets a salary now! Puma got a salary before. TSL pays their players salaries. EG is just going to pay him more. | ||
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Thewildfish
United States113 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:18 supdubdup wrote: It's okay. They recruited gsl season 1 champion fruitdealer and recent r08 trickster right?  They left TSL for Startale...so no. | ||
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shtdisturbance
Canada613 Posts
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:22 Ajnin wrote: Team is doing poorly? Bribe NASL winner korean terran with paycheck. Hope to win. + Show Spoiler + EG Yes, usually if you need to upgrade talent you either develop it or sign developed players. It's called standard procedure for every sport popular enough to have pro players with decent salaries. If people want esports to grow they need to accept these things. | ||
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awwnuts07
United States621 Posts
Gotta say, EG is being highly aggressive with recruiting. This is the second high profile player they've signed in the past couple of weeks. (Their fighting game division acquired Momichi, a Street Fighter legend) Is EG trying to become the NY Yankees of e-sports? | ||
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MrDudeMan
Canada973 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:18 Mohdoo wrote: To people defending EG/Puma here: How exactly are you thinking Puma is going to continue to grow at a rate that can keep up with other Koreans? Not a single person on EG is capable of providing Puma the type of practice he used to get where he is, and no longer being a part of a team house is going to destroy his practice habits. EG is either going to be recruiting other Koreans to form a practice house of their own, or they have no idea how the SC2 scene works right now. I really don't see how this is true. I'm pretty sure idra has gone as far in the GSL as all of the remaining TSL players. Not to mention that I'm sure Puma's friends will still practice with him. | ||
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PHC
United States472 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:19 NDsOdapOp wrote: im sorry but thats hilarious..... would you care yo elaborate on how EG is "ruining" Esports, cause it seems to me as thought they are only making good business deals which people are blowing out of proportion and they are helping to merge the Korean and foreign communities. Lol, really? To quote Milkis: "Korean Netizens are quite outraged. Although one of them noted that "not surprising since it's Idra's team" 1 hour ago "Also, I'm going to fully expect the Korean SC2 Association to do something about this and make some sort of solid FA policy." 56 minutes ago "@hazelynutsc2 clear difference between american thought and korean thought and that americans are pretty disrespectful for thinking its okay" 52 minutes ago "Korean Netizens also very disappointed in Puma. Not surprised. If you're surprised then you need to understand our culture a bit better" 35 minutes ago "FYI: It's a sign of RESPECT more than anything to talk to the team before contacting the player. I'm sure TSL feels very disrespected" 33 minutes ago Helping to merge the Korean and foreigner communities, my ass dude. This set it WAYYYYY back. | ||
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A Wet Shamwow
United States1590 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:22 Ajnin wrote: Team is doing poorly? Bribe NASL winner korean terran with paycheck. Hope to win. + Show Spoiler + EG Bribe is quite the word isnt it, i think you could say that TSL bribed Puma to join their team in the first place. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:20 eggs wrote: im against EG, but IdrA is probably a stronger practice partner than FD is currently. and who knows what other players EG is scouting. they could be picking up a Korean P and Z in the coming days. Idra doesn't play nearly as much and doesn't have nearly the ethic that a Korean pro-house offers. And Idra is a single player. Part of what makes Korean pro-houses so amazing is how you have like 3 players of each race to practice with, with a coach organizing the whole thing. Puma got to where he is by training 8+ hours every day with a strict training schedule and a lot of attention in helping him grow. EG can not come even close to that without recruiting at least another 3 or so Koreans to house with. Its possible that EG's players have tried to convince the EG management that they can keep up with Puma and that Puma will help them grow as players and turn into Koreans. If that's the case, props to them for managing to trick EG. | ||
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MrSexington
United States1768 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:17 namste wrote: EG only has one player that has been able to produce any sort of results whatsoever. If we start listing the best foreign teams EG comes maybe 7th or 8th. They really should get rid of the jobbers, likes of Lg and Machine who aren't able to win any tournaments at all or even reach any high placements. IdrA is clearly the best player on the team, but now that iNcontroL is dedicating more time being a "player first," I'd like to see what he can do. He had some decent results. In a world with dozens of pro teams, since when is 7th or 8th a joke? Let's put things in perspective, people. | ||
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thedz
United States217 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:22 lunchforthesky wrote: Definitely. This current free for all is not good for Sc2 long term. Many of the players may disagree with you about that. | ||
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BuddhaMonk
781 Posts
All of this of course, if the allegations as I understand them are true. | ||
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DooMDash
United States1015 Posts
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Gooey
United States944 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:18 Arcticc wrote: Just because it's allowed in business does not make it respectable and an element that spectators want to see in e-sports. For instance, a company doesn't have to recycle. They're saving money by not doing so, but it's respectable for them to do it. Grabbing a player from a small business' team without any negotiation or forewarning is not something I personally see as a great thing for e-sports. E-sports is growing and it is possible for it to grow in the wrong direction with greed. It's the community's responsibility to keep "business" actions like these in check. Don't tell that to football clubs in Europe! It is so rampant and common practice to steal away youth and talent from other farm systems with the lure of money from big clubs. Yet at the end of the day, people still tune in to watch the best of the best. | ||
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