Puma leaves TSL for EG - Page 171

On July 22 2011 01:08 archangel2 wrote:
In many sports, you aren't allowed to contact players who are signed with a team directly without first contacting their team (European soccer is a great example). Part of the reason this is so is precisely to prevent situations such as these. It's simply unethical to poach a player from another team without first contacting his team. TSL invested in Puma before he became successful, and now it just feels like EG (who has more money) poached him away once he became successful leaving essentially nothing for TSL.

Obviously, there might be underlying factors other than what has been revealed, but given what we know about the current situation, I feel this is a terrible move by EG.

On July 22 2011 01:13 archangel2 wrote:


Are you kidding? So much of law stems from morality. How would you write laws without a prior concept of what's right and wrong? Why is there a law against murder? Theft? Etc.

On July 22 2011 01:16 trucane wrote:
EG doing what they do best, acting unprofessionally. I'm personally not one bit surprised especially seeing how EG has been acting in other games before SC2. Most likely the worst E-Sport organization in the world.

On July 22 2011 01:20 Proko wrote:


or maybe their behavior is professional and you just don't know a) what you are talking about or b) the whole story.

I think that it stands to reason that since EG is NA's biggest professional esports organization that they know what they are doing.

On July 22 2011 01:11 jiveturkey wrote:
It's unethical from your point of view, and ethical from other people's perspective. That does not mean that it is unethical. It is what it is. The transaction took place, and two parties benefit and one party loses out. That is the fact of the matter, and all of your moral issues with it are completely opinion, and that is all. And I think it's obvious that law is completely irrelevant to morality, I don't think many people would disagree with that.

On July 22 2011 01:18 Proko wrote:


I absolutely disagree. Coach Lee doesn't own Puma. Only when a contract mandates you to go through management should you go through managedment. the rest of the time you should treat the player like he's a human being and can make his own decisions.

On July 22 2011 01:19 bonifaceviii wrote:

Your whole argument is that team EG sucks and therefore shouldn't have the right to buy better players to fix that. That's bizarre, but whatever.

On July 22 2011 01:19 murtas wrote:
Well i did not read the 170 page that already cover this, but If i'm understanding right, Puma hadn't a contract with TSL, which if it is true, is weird.

But otherwise he couldn't have signed a second contract because that would be illegal, if he was already contracted.

Which leads to the point, why wasn't he contracted with TSL and if that was because he was an "new" upcoming player.
Thats TSL fault for not binding their players sooner. Just like any other sports, when there is no contract everyone is free to go.

Dunno where all this morality thing is coming from.

On July 22 2011 01:21 Luppy1 wrote:


There's this freedom of everything in the west. Of course, self interest is important. But, from where I come from, you don't bite the hand that fed you. Personal gain is not > everything else. I wouldn't leave behind an aging relative who raised me just because I can move to the US(for eg.) and earn 2 times of what I can earn now unless if I have no values.

On July 22 2011 01:21 frequency wrote:
This kind of stuff has happened for years in e-sports, just so you know. If it's good or bad is up to the individual to decide, but stop acting as if this has never happened before.