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Thirdly English casting.
Although 90% of the time the english cast is done well, there are a bunch of things that need to change. The cast needs to be more scheduled and less random. The crappy jokes need to stop (not the good ones, just the crappy ones). Heres a pointer, if you are laughing mid joke at your own joke, its probably not funny. It also needs to bring more insight into the game, more facts more figures and probably a 3rd person.
Don't tell the community this. I personally think Tastosis is to much into self aggrandizement, unfunny, juvenile and I'm 19 but whatever, I just mute it. QXC and Wolf seem to want to take a page out of that book as well but QXC is cool mofo afaic.
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On July 17 2011 18:57 FXOpen wrote:FlyingDJ, i am not going to taint malaysia by telling stories  Just its not the most friendly place in the universe :D
The event you described could happen at any place in the world. There are friendly people everywhere and mean people everywhere. I had a very similar grocery store incident happen just last week in the U.S in a major city. It's annoying to hear people perpetuate stereotypes based on a few weeks/months of life in another place. The bottom line is good/nice people live in Korea/Malaysia/USA/ wherever and bad/mean people do to. Part of finding them depends on how you treat others as a person so maybe it isn't a problem with certain countries but rather a problem with your attitude towards them. If you are looking for negative things to say you will see only the negatives.
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On July 15 2011 16:04 FXOpen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 16:02 algorithm0r wrote:On July 15 2011 15:56 FXOpen wrote:On July 15 2011 15:54 Desirous wrote:On July 15 2011 15:41 FXOpen wrote:
Highlight: QXC and I went to buy groceries one day at the supermarket. The lady forgot to scan one bottle of milk, and we were like "what about the milk". She then proceeded to scan it in as a gift and give it to us for free. Whilst I assume this came from her wages, she did it with the biggest smile, and a bow. And was trying to communicate in english as best she could. This moment made me feel very warm and welcomed. Its definitely something that wouldnt happen in Australia or the united states. Or malaysia for that matter. I was impressed.
FXOBoSs Great story ruined by your opinion of it. Truth hurts. You should visit Canada. I have visited Canada many times. I got a free beer because some guy believed I rode a Kangaroo to school as a kid. But I don't get your reference. Canadians are friendly people, but no where in my post did I mention canada.
Next time you're in Canada I'LL buy you a beer for convincing that guy to buy you a beer.
...And then I'll buy you a bunch of shots for what you've done for e-sports. Seriously great work!
(And I think the Canada bit was just because we Canadians are just proud of our reputation)
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Hi Josh,
Very good write up. Probably most accurate opinion of any foreigners I've seen(including Tastosis, the things they make up lol).
Also congrats about fou. My mouth has been itching ever since I heard about it. I have kept my word and have not told anyone including my fellow workers, tastosis or even my mom.
I do know that there are lot of haters bitching about FXO's lack of result in GSTL and accusing FXO for taking away a spot from other better foreign teams(Let me make it clear here, FXO did NOT take any spot and held other teams from entering). To me howver, FXO's challange is admirable and a worthy investment. I can well see FXO becoming as good as if not better than any Korean teams.
I look forward to see you again in Korean and FXO hwaiting.
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While I appreciate the stories because they make a good read, your opinion on certain things is extraordinarily biased and comes off as you speaking on behalf of the community when most of us don't feel the same thing.
Thanks for the post good read and so nice for FXO to get the opportunity to develop.
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What do you mean the english casting is 10% bad? I hopeyou are not talking about Tastosis!
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It's a shame that the one knock on the commentary completely took the attention away from the rest of the post, because it was a very entertaining read.
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Tastosis has done an amazing job. It's clear that they work extremely hard and are very knowledgeable. However now that they have so much more support from other casters than they used to have I would really like to see them develop their casting style to become more sports standard.
I love their quirky jokes and fun (check my sig) but more and more I would like to hear things I didn't already know... Stats, more info on korean results from outside the GSL, more gossip, less umming and ahhing about facts. Maybe they would need assistants to support them in this to really make it work, I think a lot of traditional sports commentators have stat sheets pre prepared for them and people feeding them info live, an invisible support team.
Dunno, just my 2.
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dear FXOBoss. welcome to Malaysia. loved reading your write-up sir. tq for giving us the time to meet u tomorrow @ 1pm. Look forward to our mtg. bun1000.
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The milk story was very, very touching, warm read, BoSs!
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tyvm for this boss. you have a nice brain.
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On July 15 2011 20:53 RANDOMCL wrote:
I'm really worried about how much damage is going to be caused by promoting up to 14 hours/day practice. After seeing this come up so much, I spoke to a few doctors and nurses (friend's family is all involved in medicine) and they confirmed the very realistic nature of how much damage this can have long-term.
The 8-hour office work day already causes a lot of health problems, primarily hand/wrist/arm related, and that involves much less physical strain than playing a game at that pace for that long.
I am torn about this. I love the competition, but I worry about those, especially younger players, who follow this routine.
A few weeks or months playing at that pace won't do permanent damage, but years? There is a definite, obvious risk involved, yet it seems like many players disregard this.
A few risks to consider:
Increased risk of diabetes (handling of blood sugar becomes less effective)
Vitamin D deficiency from lack of sunlight (which seems stereotypical and humorous, but true)
Lowering of HDL cholesterol (this is the good cholesterol, which breaks down fats)
Slowed metabolism
Various spinal curvatures
Wearing down of the carpal (permanently)
Those are just a few of the main issues that I worry about, but there are numerous others.
I've heard some Korean professional teams have mandatory exercise routines, but if they are still sitting for up to 14 hours, using their wrists for the majority of the time, these issues become realistic problems.
To be a professional at ANYTHING, you have to put in a LOT of time. I'd say a minimum of 60 hours/week (which would be 10 hours/day on a 6-day/week schedule) in just about any "activity" is the bare minimum to be a real "professional"... whether that's sports, or games, running a business or trading stocks (etc.). Anything less than that and you are simply going to fall behind, and often you will need to invest even more time than that to rise to anywhere near the top.
The key is, if you're going to be a professional, you have to be able to work/train the RIGHT way. That means taking short breaks when you need to, it means using good posture (sitting correctly and not compounding your wrists, for example). It also means maintaining balance in your life (i.e. going to the gym and/or going for a run to keep in decent physical fitness and avoid the metabolism situation you describe, as well as having some semblance of a life beyond the computer screen) because if you aren't healthy it'll eventually start to drag on you and your ability to compete at a "professional" level.
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Interesting read, but I wouldn't watch the GSL if it lived up to your ideal. E-sports is like sport, but it isn't sport: I don't think most GSL viewers would appreciate the kind of commentary you purport. Tastostis is certainly the reason I keep watching with all the alternative, international options out there now.
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On July 16 2011 09:01 PrimeTimey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2011 00:25 awwnuts07 wrote:
10-12 hours of practice? That sounds about right. Don't professional athletes practice around the same amount? Why should professional gaming be any different?
BTW, thanks for the insight. Maybe now Westerners will stop trying to cut corners and just put in the work. You are kidding me right? Professional athletes practice couple hours a day, five days a week. During the off-season practice usually turns into workouts. No professional athlete would practice for anywhere near 10 hours.
It's true, athletes simply can not physically practice for 10 hours a day 6-7 days a week because the body just falls apart. Although some will spend that much time studying various aspects of their game even if they're not physically practicing. Maybe a better example would be top tier musicians practicing their instruments for equivalent amounts of time or chess Grandmasters studying their game for equivalent amounts of time.
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On July 22 2011 01:12 zoislk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2011 20:53 RANDOMCL wrote:
I'm really worried about how much damage is going to be caused by promoting up to 14 hours/day practice. After seeing this come up so much, I spoke to a few doctors and nurses (friend's family is all involved in medicine) and they confirmed the very realistic nature of how much damage this can have long-term.
The 8-hour office work day already causes a lot of health problems, primarily hand/wrist/arm related, and that involves much less physical strain than playing a game at that pace for that long.
I am torn about this. I love the competition, but I worry about those, especially younger players, who follow this routine.
A few weeks or months playing at that pace won't do permanent damage, but years? There is a definite, obvious risk involved, yet it seems like many players disregard this.
A few risks to consider:
Increased risk of diabetes (handling of blood sugar becomes less effective)
Vitamin D deficiency from lack of sunlight (which seems stereotypical and humorous, but true)
Lowering of HDL cholesterol (this is the good cholesterol, which breaks down fats)
Slowed metabolism
Various spinal curvatures
Wearing down of the carpal (permanently)
Those are just a few of the main issues that I worry about, but there are numerous others.
I've heard some Korean professional teams have mandatory exercise routines, but if they are still sitting for up to 14 hours, using their wrists for the majority of the time, these issues become realistic problems. To be a professional at ANYTHING, you have to put in a LOT of time. I'd say a minimum of 60 hours/week (which would be 10 hours/day on a 6-day/week schedule) in just about any "activity" is the bare minimum to be a real "professional"... whether that's sports, or games, running a business or trading stocks (etc.). Anything less than that and you are simply going to fall behind, and often you will need to invest even more time than that to rise to anywhere near the top. The key is, if you're going to be a professional, you have to be able to work/train the RIGHT way. That means taking short breaks when you need to, it means using good posture (sitting correctly and not compounding your wrists, for example). It also means maintaining balance in your life (i.e. going to the gym and/or going for a run to keep in decent physical fitness and avoid the metabolism situation you describe, as well as having some semblance of a life beyond the computer screen) because if you aren't healthy it'll eventually start to drag on you and your ability to compete at a "professional" level.
"Professional" only means you get paid, no more no less. If someone can achieve results on 2 hours of practice a day, then so be it. If someone needs more, so be it as well. Guys like qxc and NaDa are too busy with school and other matters to practice like a Korean progamer in sc2. I believe Day9 also dealt with that to some extent in BW as well, yet you cannot deny that they are professionals (and achieving professional results to boot...NaDa as one of the most consistently solid pros in the sc2 scene).
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On July 19 2011 14:42 JunkkaGom wrote:
Hi Josh,
Very good write up. Probably most accurate opinion of any foreigners I've seen(including Tastosis, the things they make up lol).
Also congrats about fou. My mouth has been itching ever since I heard about it. I have kept my word and have not told anyone including my fellow workers, tastosis or even my mom.
I do know that there are lot of haters bitching about FXO's lack of result in GSTL and accusing FXO for taking away a spot from other better foreign teams(Let me make it clear here, FXO did NOT take any spot and held other teams from entering). To me howver, FXO's challange is admirable and a worthy investment. I can well see FXO becoming as good as if not better than any Korean teams.
I look forward to see you again in Korean and FXO hwaiting.
It's not nice to keep secrets from your mom.
But yeah, FXO is doing a lot of good things. I'm excited to see them develop as a team, as well as their individual players.
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Great read! FXO BoSs is the man and I really appreciate all you are doing for the community.
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On July 18 2011 23:39 tdt wrote:Show nested quote +Thirdly English casting.
Although 90% of the time the english cast is done well, there are a bunch of things that need to change. The cast needs to be more scheduled and less random. The crappy jokes need to stop (not the good ones, just the crappy ones). Heres a pointer, if you are laughing mid joke at your own joke, its probably not funny. It also needs to bring more insight into the game, more facts more figures and probably a 3rd person.
Don't tell the community this. I personally think Tastosis is to much into self aggrandizement, unfunny, juvenile and I'm 19 but whatever, I just mute it. QXC and Wolf seem to want to take a page out of that book as well but QXC is cool mofo afaic.
I agree.
During the start of the game, Tastosis usually talk about random things which really annoys me because I much rather hear information, such as map features, players game-style, past experience etc. The Korean casters, Wolf and TorcH and Doa do this quite well (some more than others).
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On July 15 2011 18:38 Chriscras wrote:Another GSTL, another all kill of team FXO... 
+ Show Spoiler +Oh, how the tables have turned.
And you know, it occurs to me that the flaunting of wealth is actually really a good thing for FXO to do from a business standpoint - What are they at their core? An investment firm. By showing that they HAVE wealth, that means that they're a SUCCESSFUL investment firm - which draws investors.
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Props on the blog. I have learnt alot. I'm going to Korea end of the year so its good to hear culture and others experience. Hoping GSL is on when i go =)
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