• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:25
CEST 09:25
KST 16:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy2GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding3Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6
StarCraft 2
General
Quebec Clan still alive ? BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. BW General Discussion Gypsy to Korea Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F [BSL22] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CEST
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Muta micro map competition What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The China Politics Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Loot Boxes—Emotions, And Why…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Electronics
mantequilla
Any Web Designers Out there?…
sob3k
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2457 users

Macro helper batch file - Page 11

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 Next All
zergrushkekeke
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia241 Posts
July 16 2011 04:47 GMT
#201
On July 16 2011 13:14 AndAgain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 19:29 Rannasha wrote:
To all those who call "cheat": I don't see how this is any different than setting up an alarm-clock / cellphone to sound a beep every 12 seconds. In fact, a beep is probably preferable since it doesn't obstruct the screen.

Nevertheless, the preferred way is to just learn to do it without external aids.


So set up an alarm clock external from the game. Why mess with this shit.


This is an alarm clock external from the game, how external do you have to go for it to be legitimate in your mind?
The grey area from lightest to darkest goes:
an external device sitting in your room like a mobile phone or a metronome
a webpage or a program that makes a ding noise,
a second monitor that has some program running on it
an overlay on top of the game client
some type of hardware input to your PC (macro keyboard type stuff)
then rendering the clock in game with directX hooks.

This system seems pretty easy to setup, use and change.
KEKEKE
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
July 16 2011 04:53 GMT
#202
On July 16 2011 13:47 zergrushkekeke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 13:14 AndAgain wrote:
On July 14 2011 19:29 Rannasha wrote:
To all those who call "cheat": I don't see how this is any different than setting up an alarm-clock / cellphone to sound a beep every 12 seconds. In fact, a beep is probably preferable since it doesn't obstruct the screen.

Nevertheless, the preferred way is to just learn to do it without external aids.


So set up an alarm clock external from the game. Why mess with this shit.


This is an alarm clock external from the game, how external do you have to go for it to be legitimate in your mind?
The grey area from lightest to darkest goes:
an external device sitting in your room like a mobile phone or a metronome
a webpage or a program that makes a ding noise,
a second monitor that has some program running on it
an overlay on top of the game client
some type of hardware input to your PC (macro keyboard type stuff)
then rendering the clock in game with directX hooks.

This system seems pretty easy to setup, use and change.


External from the game without hooks...yeah. It does however...come into the game via always on top to interact with your game experience. It is a 3rd party "program" that helps (obviously not at the highest levels of play since you should be hitting injects almost perfectly).

I'm not against the use of this on a map where people know you have it (custom map with this built in) but I just rather ladder have 2 people without any type of coach or help behind them. I do think the people freaking out about it should relax, but at the same time I would like for you to e-mail and ask permission from blizzard if it is crossing the line or not. I would think they would say it is.
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
zergrushkekeke
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia241 Posts
July 16 2011 04:55 GMT
#203
On July 16 2011 13:42 freakhill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 13:39 zergrushkekeke wrote:
On July 16 2011 13:10 freakhill wrote:
If something is clearly forbidden during tournaments there is no moral justification to use it on ladder


So how do you feel about walling off at the bottom of the ramp? You can't do that at a lot of competitions as they have edited in those sunken depots, but I am sure if you ran into a terran that put a depot + bunker at the bottom of his ramp you would yell for a ban.



This makes no sense, It is plain and simple not the same map.


I made my point which was there are rules at tournaments that do not apply online, that are either un enforceable (online coaching) or just shouldn't matter (playing music, or running a program in the background while laddering).

KEKEKE
Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
July 16 2011 04:58 GMT
#204
On July 16 2011 13:42 reneg wrote:
While i'm sure the initial purpose of this is noble and to help players better themselves at a rate faster than they would normally achieve on their own, i can't help but express dismay at its existence.

I personally don't approve of this, and don't think it should be used, however, if someone else feels like they want it / need it, and are willing to run the risk of blizzard scanning their running processes and getting caught and banned,

then by all means, continue.



Man so much restraint required..

You will not "risk a ban" for opening a .jpg
Goodness gracious people love to talk a lot of rubbish!
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12702 Posts
July 16 2011 04:59 GMT
#205
I don't think it is going to help that much, most lower league players would be too focusing onto what is going on with the screen rather than mini map, mineral etc
it's not like any extra indicators would really change their habits anyway
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
zergrushkekeke
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia241 Posts
July 16 2011 05:03 GMT
#206
On July 16 2011 13:53 Demonace34 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 13:47 zergrushkekeke wrote:
On July 16 2011 13:14 AndAgain wrote:
On July 14 2011 19:29 Rannasha wrote:
To all those who call "cheat": I don't see how this is any different than setting up an alarm-clock / cellphone to sound a beep every 12 seconds. In fact, a beep is probably preferable since it doesn't obstruct the screen.

Nevertheless, the preferred way is to just learn to do it without external aids.


So set up an alarm clock external from the game. Why mess with this shit.


This is an alarm clock external from the game, how external do you have to go for it to be legitimate in your mind?
The grey area from lightest to darkest goes:
an external device sitting in your room like a mobile phone or a metronome
a webpage or a program that makes a ding noise,
a second monitor that has some program running on it
an overlay on top of the game client
some type of hardware input to your PC (macro keyboard type stuff)
then rendering the clock in game with directX hooks.

This system seems pretty easy to setup, use and change.


External from the game without hooks...yeah. It does however...come into the game via always on top to interact with your game experience. It is a 3rd party "program" that helps (obviously not at the highest levels of play since you should be hitting injects almost perfectly).

I'm not against the use of this on a map where people know you have it (custom map with this built in) but I just rather ladder have 2 people without any type of coach or help behind them. I do think the people freaking out about it should relax, but at the same time I would like for you to e-mail and ask permission from blizzard if it is crossing the line or not. I would think they would say it is.


Windows Task Manager also comes into the game via anyways on top, and its already hotkeyed to ctrl + alt + delete. You could put your build order into a bunch of silly named tasks and use this to help you at SC2.

I'm not going to try asking blizzard as there would be nothing helpful they could say, they couldn't really confirm or deny if this would be picked up by warden as then they are admitting to some serious PC snooping, or telling real hackers what the wardens limitations are.
KEKEKE
Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 05:13:26
July 16 2011 05:10 GMT
#207
On July 16 2011 14:03 zergrushkekeke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 13:53 Demonace34 wrote:
On July 16 2011 13:47 zergrushkekeke wrote:
On July 16 2011 13:14 AndAgain wrote:
On July 14 2011 19:29 Rannasha wrote:
To all those who call "cheat": I don't see how this is any different than setting up an alarm-clock / cellphone to sound a beep every 12 seconds. In fact, a beep is probably preferable since it doesn't obstruct the screen.

Nevertheless, the preferred way is to just learn to do it without external aids.


So set up an alarm clock external from the game. Why mess with this shit.


This is an alarm clock external from the game, how external do you have to go for it to be legitimate in your mind?
The grey area from lightest to darkest goes:
an external device sitting in your room like a mobile phone or a metronome
a webpage or a program that makes a ding noise,
a second monitor that has some program running on it
an overlay on top of the game client
some type of hardware input to your PC (macro keyboard type stuff)
then rendering the clock in game with directX hooks.

This system seems pretty easy to setup, use and change.


External from the game without hooks...yeah. It does however...come into the game via always on top to interact with your game experience. It is a 3rd party "program" that helps (obviously not at the highest levels of play since you should be hitting injects almost perfectly).

I'm not against the use of this on a map where people know you have it (custom map with this built in) but I just rather ladder have 2 people without any type of coach or help behind them. I do think the people freaking out about it should relax, but at the same time I would like for you to e-mail and ask permission from blizzard if it is crossing the line or not. I would think they would say it is.


Windows Task Manager also comes into the game via anyways on top, and its already hotkeyed to ctrl + alt + delete. You could put your build order into a bunch of silly named tasks and use this to help you at SC2.

I'm not going to try asking blizzard as there would be nothing helpful they could say, they couldn't really confirm or deny if this would be picked up by warden as then they are admitting to some serious PC snooping, or telling real hackers what the wardens limitations are.



Hmm, set windows media player to always on top, create a build order playlist.. attract "ban the cheater" posts on TL! :D

Hmm or better yet..
"use basic windows functionality for its intended purposes"
[picture]
"careful dude blizz might ban u"

Could be a new meme? :O.

anyway, i promise i wont post again in this thread lol.
zergrushkekeke
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia241 Posts
July 16 2011 05:23 GMT
#208
One step ahead of you :D

[image loading]
KEKEKE
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
July 16 2011 06:15 GMT
#209
On July 16 2011 14:23 zergrushkekeke wrote:
One step ahead of you :D

[image loading]


Wtf is that real lol?

1) Not that hard to memorize up to 16 supply.
2) 2005 minerals at 10 minutes into the game.
3) you could just write it down on a piece of paper and tape it to the screen.

I can't make up my mind which of these is most ridiculous.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Nerski
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1095 Posts
July 16 2011 06:24 GMT
#210
This 'helper' will absolutely get you banned.

Under no circumstances what so ever can you use files that interact with the SC2 interface or code in any way shape or form.
Twitter: @GoForNerski /// Youtube: Youtube.com/nerskisc
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
July 16 2011 06:30 GMT
#211
On July 16 2011 15:24 Nerski wrote:
This 'helper' will absolutely get you banned.

Under no circumstances what so ever can you use files that interact with the SC2 interface or code in any way shape or form.


Then it's a good thing they don't do that. They interact with the interface on a different layer which is the same as effectively not interacting with it at all, at least in a sense that they aren't working directly together.
alert
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation3 Posts
July 16 2011 07:23 GMT
#212
On July 16 2011 15:24 Nerski wrote:
This 'helper' will absolutely get you banned.

Under no circumstances what so ever can you use files that interact with the SC2 interface or code in any way shape or form.


Blizzard will never ban you for this application. The application does not affect the game and does not give unfair benefits. A similar idea underlies the 'Probe' from sc2drill.com. To practice their skills and builds, it is used a lot of players for several months. No one has been banned.

2 zergrushkekeke: Well done!
Eknoid4
Profile Joined October 2010
United States902 Posts
July 16 2011 07:36 GMT
#213
On July 16 2011 08:45 zergrushkekeke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 05:39 Eknoid4 wrote:
Now imagine if you'd practiced starcraft instead of figuring out innovative new ways to do well without getting better


This took me like an hour at work to write up and maybe a few more minutes at home to get the position and image size right. I've probably spent more time reading this thread than writing the scripts.

Now imagine if you'd practiced starcraft instead of figuring out innovative new ways to tell me why you don't need to practice starcraft to get better at starcraft
If you're mad that someone else is brazenly trumpeting their beliefs with ignorance, perhaps you should be mad that you are doing it too.
zergrushkekeke
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia241 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 07:54:27
July 16 2011 07:54 GMT
#214
On July 16 2011 16:36 Eknoid4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 08:45 zergrushkekeke wrote:
On July 16 2011 05:39 Eknoid4 wrote:
Now imagine if you'd practiced starcraft instead of figuring out innovative new ways to do well without getting better


This took me like an hour at work to write up and maybe a few more minutes at home to get the position and image size right. I've probably spent more time reading this thread than writing the scripts.

Now imagine if you'd practiced starcraft instead of figuring out innovative new ways to tell me why you don't need to practice starcraft to get better at starcraft


I like you your funny :D
KEKEKE
Hardytack
Profile Joined October 2010
United States25 Posts
July 16 2011 09:42 GMT
#215
Alright, there are a lot of people with conflicting opinions in this thread, so i've decided to input my own. First off, people are acting like if he uses this he will win no matter what. That is not true. Just because he gets reminded to build an scv doesnt mean he'll win. A third party program aids the user, but does not guarantee success. It all comes down to mechanics. If he remembers to build scvs, that's great. But is he remembering to look at the minimap? Is he remembering to expand? Is he remembering to scout? Maybe, but if he is outmatched by the other player, no third party program will help him win. This program will help him learn timings. That is it. He will use it, get used to making scvs, and stop using it. If he continues to use it after a month or two, then it wont be helping him. He will form a habit of only building scvs when the program tells him to. If he wishes to succeed, he will practice building scvs with his program then stop. Honestly, all this program is doing is reminding him to do something that could so easily have been overlooked. It's pretty much the same as putting a sticky note on the side of your monitor saying "Build SCVs." The only difference is that it pops up on screen. Sure, this could be viewed as cheating, but since it isnt directly tweaking the game itself, it isnt a bannable offense. And it would be impossible to report him for hacking because there is no visible proof of him using this program in a match. Sure, people could report him, but it would most likely say "uh, he beat me, so i think he was using some sort of hack. it's the only way he could've beaten me. he was such a noob."

In Conclusion, this program only helps with one aspect of the game. There are so many parts to this game, so a little help in one will only make a small difference. He could just learn the timings from playing a lot of games, but a little coaching never hurt anyone.

Also, I am in no way endorsing cheating with this post. I am merely stating that he is using a tool to get better at something he loves doing.
"If you don't get mad when you lose, you don't care enough" -EGIdra
Angry_Fetus
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada444 Posts
July 16 2011 17:11 GMT
#216
On July 16 2011 14:03 zergrushkekeke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 13:53 Demonace34 wrote:
On July 16 2011 13:47 zergrushkekeke wrote:
On July 16 2011 13:14 AndAgain wrote:
On July 14 2011 19:29 Rannasha wrote:
To all those who call "cheat": I don't see how this is any different than setting up an alarm-clock / cellphone to sound a beep every 12 seconds. In fact, a beep is probably preferable since it doesn't obstruct the screen.

Nevertheless, the preferred way is to just learn to do it without external aids.


So set up an alarm clock external from the game. Why mess with this shit.


This is an alarm clock external from the game, how external do you have to go for it to be legitimate in your mind?
The grey area from lightest to darkest goes:
an external device sitting in your room like a mobile phone or a metronome
a webpage or a program that makes a ding noise,
a second monitor that has some program running on it
an overlay on top of the game client
some type of hardware input to your PC (macro keyboard type stuff)
then rendering the clock in game with directX hooks.

This system seems pretty easy to setup, use and change.


External from the game without hooks...yeah. It does however...come into the game via always on top to interact with your game experience. It is a 3rd party "program" that helps (obviously not at the highest levels of play since you should be hitting injects almost perfectly).

I'm not against the use of this on a map where people know you have it (custom map with this built in) but I just rather ladder have 2 people without any type of coach or help behind them. I do think the people freaking out about it should relax, but at the same time I would like for you to e-mail and ask permission from blizzard if it is crossing the line or not. I would think they would say it is.


Windows Task Manager also comes into the game via anyways on top, and its already hotkeyed to ctrl + alt + delete. You could put your build order into a bunch of silly named tasks and use this to help you at SC2.

I'm not going to try asking blizzard as there would be nothing helpful they could say, they couldn't really confirm or deny if this would be picked up by warden as then they are admitting to some serious PC snooping, or telling real hackers what the wardens limitations are.


Why do you dodge every question? He didn't say to ask Blizzard if warden could detect it, he said to ask them if they are fine with the program, and that it doesn't violate the ToS. We all know what they will say. The fact that you keep bringing up that it "can't be detected" shows you already admit that it violates the ToS, and is frankly pretty sad.
fickazzz
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany152 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 17:49:56
July 16 2011 17:36 GMT
#217
is there a programm or tool, which plays a sound after x seconds and where u can bind any key to reset this timer?
would be imo the best and without overlay, u could just bind shift+x and it would reset the timer, like this the timer would allways be in time xD

EDIT: ok i searched for a min and i found this http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/topic66719.html
pretty useful for zergs imo and i doubt u can get banned for this
Dayrlan
Profile Joined November 2010
United States248 Posts
July 16 2011 17:44 GMT
#218
On July 14 2011 19:24 CptCutter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2011 18:23 zergrushkekeke wrote:
What
I have put together some batch files that will use irfanview to repeatedly bring up an overlay on top of the control groups visible area for a few seconds. There are methods out there to remind players to keep up with macro activities like mule, inject, build workers, http://injectlarvae.com/ is an example, but this method seems new and didn't come up when I searched for it. I don't think this breaks the TOS, and even if it did I don't know how blizzard could monitor it.

Specifics
My setup brings up an "S" over the top of control group 5 every 12 seconds or so, to remind me to build SCVs, 5 being my command center control group and S being for build SCV. It would be pretty easy to modify the image, timing and position for mules, crono boosts, injects, or whatever you want.

The files are simple and should be pretty understandable, but also they are only going to look right if you have the same resolution as me (or fiddle some numbers), I am guessing you should also run Windowed-Fullscreen. I should mention this will probably only work on XP out of the box, some tweaking would have to be done for vista win7 and mac.


How to do it
1. Install irfanview http://www.irfanview.com/ set it to be always on top (options, tick always on top)

2. Either unzip the file (that I'm going to upload somewhere eventually) to C:/_SC2 or go to the following "set it up from scratch" section

3. Run the Tick.bat

You can also make a shortcut of the batch file (has to be on the desktop for XP) and give it a shortcut key combination to start it at the start of the game, I don't know a good way to close it besides just alt tabbing.

set it up from scratch
1. Make a folder!
Name: C:\_SC2

2. Make a .BMP
Name: scv.bmp
44x18 pixels with an "s" and some amount of artistic design

3. Make batch file 1
Name: MAKEIMG.BAT
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
rem be in the right folder, standard install
c:
cd C:\Program Files\IrfanView

rem create in pos x, y
i_view32.exe c:\_sc2\scv.bmp /pos (528,687) /hide=15 /resample
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

4. Make batch file 2
Name: TICK.BAT
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
C:
cd C:\_SC2
:start
rem - Start up the process again.
rem FLASH FOR TWO SECONDS, TWICE
link.LNK
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
taskkill /IM i_view32.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 1
link.LNK
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
taskkill /IM i_view32.exe
rem CHANGE THIS NUMBER (-n x) FOR THE DELAY
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 11
goto:start
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

5.Make a link
Name: link
Target: C:\_SC2\MAKEIMG.BAT
Start in: C:\_sc2


people like you disgust me. trying to gain advantages over others just because you dont have the brains to do something. why not try creating something thats a piece of the actual game like a custom game to help people with their macro?


I'm not supporting using this (I think it would qualify as a 'hack'), but ...are you joking? He DID use his brains to do something! Try being positive and do something yourself too!
alert
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation3 Posts
July 16 2011 19:24 GMT
#219
On July 17 2011 02:36 fickazzz wrote:
is there a programm or tool, which plays a sound after x seconds and where u can bind any key to reset this timer?
would be imo the best and without overlay, u could just bind shift+x and it would reset the timer, like this the timer would allways be in time xD

EDIT: ok i searched for a min and i found this http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/topic66719.html
pretty useful for zergs imo and i doubt u can get banned for this


Check sc2drill.com. Tool made ​​specifically for this.
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
July 16 2011 19:43 GMT
#220
On July 17 2011 02:11 Angry_Fetus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 14:03 zergrushkekeke wrote:
On July 16 2011 13:53 Demonace34 wrote:
On July 16 2011 13:47 zergrushkekeke wrote:
On July 16 2011 13:14 AndAgain wrote:
On July 14 2011 19:29 Rannasha wrote:
To all those who call "cheat": I don't see how this is any different than setting up an alarm-clock / cellphone to sound a beep every 12 seconds. In fact, a beep is probably preferable since it doesn't obstruct the screen.

Nevertheless, the preferred way is to just learn to do it without external aids.


So set up an alarm clock external from the game. Why mess with this shit.


This is an alarm clock external from the game, how external do you have to go for it to be legitimate in your mind?
The grey area from lightest to darkest goes:
an external device sitting in your room like a mobile phone or a metronome
a webpage or a program that makes a ding noise,
a second monitor that has some program running on it
an overlay on top of the game client
some type of hardware input to your PC (macro keyboard type stuff)
then rendering the clock in game with directX hooks.

This system seems pretty easy to setup, use and change.


External from the game without hooks...yeah. It does however...come into the game via always on top to interact with your game experience. It is a 3rd party "program" that helps (obviously not at the highest levels of play since you should be hitting injects almost perfectly).

I'm not against the use of this on a map where people know you have it (custom map with this built in) but I just rather ladder have 2 people without any type of coach or help behind them. I do think the people freaking out about it should relax, but at the same time I would like for you to e-mail and ask permission from blizzard if it is crossing the line or not. I would think they would say it is.


Windows Task Manager also comes into the game via anyways on top, and its already hotkeyed to ctrl + alt + delete. You could put your build order into a bunch of silly named tasks and use this to help you at SC2.

I'm not going to try asking blizzard as there would be nothing helpful they could say, they couldn't really confirm or deny if this would be picked up by warden as then they are admitting to some serious PC snooping, or telling real hackers what the wardens limitations are.


Why do you dodge every question? He didn't say to ask Blizzard if warden could detect it, he said to ask them if they are fine with the program, and that it doesn't violate the ToS. We all know what they will say. The fact that you keep bringing up that it "can't be detected" shows you already admit that it violates the ToS, and is frankly pretty sad.


it doesnt violate the TOS.
Maruprime.
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 35m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft759
Nina 132
StarCraft: Brood War
Hyuk 678
Hm[arnc] 107
sSak 68
Dewaltoss 35
Larva 21
NotJumperer 18
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm116
League of Legends
JimRising 660
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1082
Super Smash Bros
Westballz29
Other Games
summit1g12052
C9.Mang0565
m0e_tv412
Happy251
Hui .216
Mew2King48
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick888
BasetradeTV191
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 10 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
2h 35m
WardiTV Team League
3h 35m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
7h 35m
IPSL
8h 35m
Hawk vs TBD
StRyKeR vs TBD
BSL
11h 35m
n0maD vs perroflaco
TerrOr vs ZZZero
MadiNho vs WolFix
DragOn vs LancerX
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 2h
WardiTV Team League
1d 3h
OSC
1d 5h
BSL
1d 11h
Sterling vs Azhi_Dahaki
Napoleon vs Mazur
Jimin vs Nesh
spx vs Strudel
IPSL
1d 11h
Artosis vs TBD
Napoleon vs TBD
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soma vs YSC
Sharp vs sSak
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Snow vs PianO
hero vs Rain
GSL
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Escore
6 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W2
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
WardiTV TLMC #16
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.