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What
I have put together some batch files that will use irfanview to repeatedly bring up an overlay on top of the control groups visible area for a few seconds. There are methods out there to remind players to keep up with macro activities like mule, inject, build workers, http://injectlarvae.com/ is an example, but this method seems new and didn't come up when I searched for it. I don't think this breaks the TOS, and even if it did I don't know how blizzard could monitor it.
Specifics
My setup brings up an "S" over the top of control group 5 every 12 seconds or so, to remind me to build SCVs, 5 being my command center control group and S being for build SCV. It would be pretty easy to modify the image, timing and position for mules, crono boosts, injects, or whatever you want.
The files are simple and should be pretty understandable, but also they are only going to look right if you have the same resolution as me (or fiddle some numbers), I am guessing you should also run Windowed-Fullscreen. I should mention this will probably only work on XP out of the box, some tweaking would have to be done for vista win7 and mac.
Pictures dammit!
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ZYHkH.jpg)
How to do it
1. Install irfanview http://www.irfanview.com/ set it to be always on top (options, tick always on top)
2. Either unzip the file (http://www.mediafire.com/?3heiidr8cdcgdch) to C:/_SC2 or go to the following "set it up from scratch" section if you don't like downloading random zips
3. Run the Tick.bat
You can also make a shortcut of the batch file (has to be on the desktop for XP) and give it a shortcut key combination to start it at the start of the game, and you can easily make another batch script to kill cmd.exe to turn it off.
Set it up from scratch
1. Make a folder!
Name: C:\_SC2
2. Make a .BMP
Name: scv.bmp
44x18 pixels with an "s" and some amount of artistic design
3. Make batch file 1
Name: MAKEIMG.BAT
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rem be in the right folder, standard install
c:
cd C:\Program Files\IrfanView
rem create in pos x, y
i_view32.exe c:\_sc2\scv.bmp /pos (528,687) /hide=15 /resample
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4. Make batch file 2
Name: TICK.BAT
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C:
cd C:\_SC2
:start
rem - Start up the process again.
rem FLASH FOR TWO SECONDS, TWICE
link.LNK
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
taskkill /IM i_view32.exe
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 1
link.LNK
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2
taskkill /IM i_view32.exe
rem CHANGE THIS NUMBER (-n x) FOR THE DELAY
ping 127.0.0.1 -n 11
goto:start
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5.Make a link
Name: link
Target: C:\_SC2\MAKEIMG.BAT
Start in: C:\_sc2
No one has yet complained about the image coming up in a different spot which if anyone ran the bat file as it is they would, this is because my monitor is 1440 x 900 (shush it was on special).to move it around for your specific resolution you need to edit the MAKEIMG.BAT /pos command.
Use at own risk
There is a small risk that using this method will get you banned or make you a worse player. The image viewer irfanview is used by casters for their overlays during replays and I am assuming during live streams as well, also nothing is hooking in to the starcraft2 program or keylogging, or even changing the games feel more than alt tabbing or playing your own music would, so a ban is very unlikely.That said people are currently getting banned and unbanned for less (raidcall) and it is possible that blizzard monitor all your applications during a game and could possibly detect the image viewer start and end several times. If you think a timer that reminds you to do something every 10 seconds will make you worse at doing something every 10 seconds, or if you are competing at LAN events, or could not bear to stop using this setup it could make you worse at sc2.
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I think I would classify this as cheating, or at least enabling oneself an advantage that your similarly skilled opposition doesn't have.
Edit:
I think it would be sort of OK if it popped up on a seperate monitor or on your mobile phone or something like that, but having it overlay the game is just wrong. If the game was supposed to remind you to inject and build SCVs you would have the option to do so. Some of the skill in this game comes down to being able to remember to do everything you are supposed to do.
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Nice Idea, though as NicoLoco already mentioned, i see this as a hack, and it wont be allowed at a tournament, so id say its a pretty bad idea, learn the timings the hardway, play enough and they will come natural to you. But nice idea though
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On July 14 2011 19:05 NicoLoco wrote:
I think I would classify this as cheating, or at least enabling oneself an advantage that your similarly skilled opposition doesn't have.
Edit:
I think it would be sort of OK if it popped up on a seperate monitor or on your mobile phone or something like that, but having it overlay the game is just wrong. If the game was supposed to remind you to inject and build SCVs you would have the option to do so. Some of the skill in this game comes down to being able to remember to do everything you are supposed to do.
SC2 reminds you to inject.
I don't support it, but at a certain level it won't help you anymore, because
there it's not so much a thing of being able to remind, it's about being able
to mechanically do it.
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I think this is quite easily a cheating program, it gives you an unfair advantage over your opponants.
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On July 14 2011 18:23 zergrushkekeke wrote:WhatI have put together some batch files that will use irfanview to repeatedly bring up an overlay on top of the control groups visible area for a few seconds. There are methods out there to remind players to keep up with macro activities like mule, inject, build workers, http://injectlarvae.com/ is an example, but this method seems new and didn't come up when I searched for it. I don't think this breaks the TOS, and even if it did I don't know how blizzard could monitor it. SpecificsMy setup brings up an "S" over the top of control group 5 every 12 seconds or so, to remind me to build SCVs, 5 being my command center control group and S being for build SCV. It would be pretty easy to modify the image, timing and position for mules, crono boosts, injects, or whatever you want. The files are simple and should be pretty understandable, but also they are only going to look right if you have the same resolution as me (or fiddle some numbers), I am guessing you should also run Windowed-Fullscreen. I should mention this will probably only work on XP out of the box, some tweaking would have to be done for vista win7 and mac. How to do it1. Install irfanview http://www.irfanview.com/ set it to be always on top (options, tick always on top) 2. Either unzip the file (that I'm going to upload somewhere eventually) to C:/_SC2 or go to the following "set it up from scratch" section 3. Run the Tick.bat You can also make a shortcut of the batch file (has to be on the desktop for XP) and give it a shortcut key combination to start it at the start of the game, I don't know a good way to close it besides just alt tabbing. set it up from scratch1. Make a folder! Name: C:\_SC2 2. Make a .BMP Name: scv.bmp 44x18 pixels with an "s" and some amount of artistic design 3. Make batch file 1 Name: MAKEIMG.BAT --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- rem be in the right folder, standard install c: cd C:\Program Files\IrfanView rem create in pos x, y i_view32.exe c:\_sc2\scv.bmp /pos (528,687) /hide=15 /resample --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Make batch file 2 Name: TICK.BAT --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- C: cd C:\_SC2 :start rem - Start up the process again. rem FLASH FOR TWO SECONDS, TWICE link.LNK ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2 taskkill /IM i_view32.exe ping 127.0.0.1 -n 1 link.LNK ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2 taskkill /IM i_view32.exe rem CHANGE THIS NUMBER (-n x) FOR THE DELAY ping 127.0.0.1 -n 11 goto:start --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5.Make a link Name: link Target: C:\_SC2\MAKEIMG.BAT Start in: C:\_sc2
people like you disgust me. trying to gain advantages over others just because you dont have the brains to do something. why not try creating something thats a piece of the actual game like a custom game to help people with their macro?
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To all those who call "cheat": I don't see how this is any different than setting up an alarm-clock / cellphone to sound a beep every 12 seconds. In fact, a beep is probably preferable since it doesn't obstruct the screen.
Nevertheless, the preferred way is to just learn to do it without external aids.
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Gotta admit i hate all these people who talk about "hacks" etc for things that DO NOT interact in any way with starcraft.
This is a fucking timer. A timer that displays an image.
Whether its on monitor 1 or 2 makes absolutely no difference. It's a learning aid at best, and a mildly useless crutch at worst. Don't worry about it. This won't really give anyone competitive an advantage. by masters remembering SCV's should be the least of your worries.
This is absolutely no different from having a coach watch you play and say "make an scv dawwg"
Stop spewing shit basically.
You don't have to agree with it "morally" but to say "oh this is a hack and shud be ban" etc is just retarded.
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I'm curious why it needs to ping 127.0.0.1.
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Your alarm clock doesnt pop up on the screen and especially not above your control groups, can't you see how this is cheating?
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Blizzard's already banned people for using a speaking overlay- this will definitely get people banned.
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On July 14 2011 19:24 CptCutter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 18:23 zergrushkekeke wrote:WhatI have put together some batch files that will use irfanview to repeatedly bring up an overlay on top of the control groups visible area for a few seconds. There are methods out there to remind players to keep up with macro activities like mule, inject, build workers, http://injectlarvae.com/ is an example, but this method seems new and didn't come up when I searched for it. I don't think this breaks the TOS, and even if it did I don't know how blizzard could monitor it. SpecificsMy setup brings up an "S" over the top of control group 5 every 12 seconds or so, to remind me to build SCVs, 5 being my command center control group and S being for build SCV. It would be pretty easy to modify the image, timing and position for mules, crono boosts, injects, or whatever you want. The files are simple and should be pretty understandable, but also they are only going to look right if you have the same resolution as me (or fiddle some numbers), I am guessing you should also run Windowed-Fullscreen. I should mention this will probably only work on XP out of the box, some tweaking would have to be done for vista win7 and mac. How to do it1. Install irfanview http://www.irfanview.com/ set it to be always on top (options, tick always on top) 2. Either unzip the file (that I'm going to upload somewhere eventually) to C:/_SC2 or go to the following "set it up from scratch" section 3. Run the Tick.bat You can also make a shortcut of the batch file (has to be on the desktop for XP) and give it a shortcut key combination to start it at the start of the game, I don't know a good way to close it besides just alt tabbing. set it up from scratch1. Make a folder! Name: C:\_SC2 2. Make a .BMP Name: scv.bmp 44x18 pixels with an "s" and some amount of artistic design 3. Make batch file 1 Name: MAKEIMG.BAT --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- rem be in the right folder, standard install c: cd C:\Program Files\IrfanView rem create in pos x, y i_view32.exe c:\_sc2\scv.bmp /pos (528,687) /hide=15 /resample --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4. Make batch file 2 Name: TICK.BAT --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- C: cd C:\_SC2 :start rem - Start up the process again. rem FLASH FOR TWO SECONDS, TWICE link.LNK ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2 taskkill /IM i_view32.exe ping 127.0.0.1 -n 1 link.LNK ping 127.0.0.1 -n 2 taskkill /IM i_view32.exe rem CHANGE THIS NUMBER (-n x) FOR THE DELAY ping 127.0.0.1 -n 11 goto:start --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5.Make a link Name: link Target: C:\_SC2\MAKEIMG.BAT Start in: C:\_sc2 people like you disgust me. trying to gain advantages over others just because you dont have the brains to do something. why not try creating something thats a piece of the actual game like a custom game to help people with their macro?
HE disgusts you because he found a way to help him learn his macro?
Your the piece of shit here, judging people for doing things differently.
"oh but it's okay ifg its an alarm that plays a beep?" (someone else said)
mmk, suppose he's deaf? whether or not he is isnt relevant.
Whilst he's microing his army, it's not his memory failing him, it's his limited mechanical ability failing him. This won't make him better or give him some crazy advantage.
IT might solidfy timings in him much like a metronome, just visual.
Calm down, let people learn how they want to learn.. it doesn't break any rules. more practically, even if it did break rules, it's not enforceable.
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On July 14 2011 19:41 Selkie wrote:
Blizzard's already banned people for using a speaking overlay- this will definitely get people banned.
get out.
Raidcall hooked into the rendering process of sc2.exe
This is an image that renders completely seperately and has no interaction with the game.
Idiots stop posting please, leaver responses to people who aren't sensationalist =\
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On July 14 2011 19:05 NicoLoco wrote:
I think I would classify this as cheating, or at least enabling oneself an advantage that your similarly skilled opposition doesn't have.
I am not saying that it is "hax and should be banned". Wow, people. Please calm down abit and don't just throw a hissyfit because you have a different opinion than your peers.
My point is that you are better off learning it the hard way, and if you want to set up reminders while playing custom games with friends/practice partners that is totally fine, but on ladder you are giving yourself an advantage that a player of similar skill to yourself doesn't have (or knows about).
I salute the initative, I just would like for people to learn "the hard way". 
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On July 14 2011 19:42 NicoLoco wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 19:05 NicoLoco wrote:
I think I would classify this as cheating, or at least enabling oneself an advantage that your similarly skilled opposition doesn't have.
I am not saying that it is "hax and should be banned". Wow, people. Please calm down abit and don't just throw a hissyfit because you have a different opinion than your peers. My point is that you are better off learning it the hard way, and if you want to set up reminders while playing custom games with friends/practice partners that is totally fine, but on ladder you are giving yourself an advantage that a player of similar skill to yourself doesn't have (or knows about). I salute the initative, I just would like for people to learn "the hard way".
Please provide evidence for why "your better off to learn the hard way" unless you have proven this in some study im/the world is unaware of, you giving an opinion but stating it as fact.
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Everything that in one or another way helps you ingame is and is not develpoed by Blizzard is 100% cheating. There is a reason why on chess tournaments the players dont bring their opening books with them.
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On July 14 2011 19:44 Eleaven wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 19:42 NicoLoco wrote:On July 14 2011 19:05 NicoLoco wrote:
I think I would classify this as cheating, or at least enabling oneself an advantage that your similarly skilled opposition doesn't have.
I am not saying that it is "hax and should be banned". Wow, people. Please calm down abit and don't just throw a hissyfit because you have a different opinion than your peers. My point is that you are better off learning it the hard way, and if you want to set up reminders while playing custom games with friends/practice partners that is totally fine, but on ladder you are giving yourself an advantage that a player of similar skill to yourself doesn't have (or knows about). I salute the initative, I just would like for people to learn "the hard way". Please provide evidence for why "your better off to learn the hard way" unless you have proven this in some study im/the world is unaware of, you giving an opinion but stating it as fact.
You are right, I should have said that I THINK that it is better to learn "the hard way". It is my opinion, and I shouldn't have stated it like I was some sort of allknowing learning doctor expert professor.
As I said, I only have a problem with it if you use it on ladder or in tourneys.
That being said. I make SCVs based upon internal timers. I used to forget before, now I don't quite so often. I did it without reminders or other tools. I had a yellow sticky note attached to the bottom of my screen that I had written these things on:
+ Show Spoiler +1. Make SCVs 2. Make units 3. Minimap 4. Make SCVs 5. Make units 6. Minimap Bronze league, baby!
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On July 14 2011 19:46 NicoLoco wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 19:44 Eleaven wrote:On July 14 2011 19:42 NicoLoco wrote:On July 14 2011 19:05 NicoLoco wrote:
I think I would classify this as cheating, or at least enabling oneself an advantage that your similarly skilled opposition doesn't have.
I am not saying that it is "hax and should be banned". Wow, people. Please calm down abit and don't just throw a hissyfit because you have a different opinion than your peers. My point is that you are better off learning it the hard way, and if you want to set up reminders while playing custom games with friends/practice partners that is totally fine, but on ladder you are giving yourself an advantage that a player of similar skill to yourself doesn't have (or knows about). I salute the initative, I just would like for people to learn "the hard way". Please provide evidence for why "your better off to learn the hard way" unless you have proven this in some study im/the world is unaware of, you giving an opinion but stating it as fact. You are right, I should have said that I THINK that it is better to learn "the hard way". It is my opinion, and I shouldn't have stated it like I was some sort of allknowing learning doctor expert professor. That being said. I make SCVs based upon internal timers. I used to forget before, now I don't quite so often.
Agreed, i also run off an internal timer for my scv production.
When i wanted to learn zerg, however, i used a 30 second timer with a beep to train my injects, and after just a few hours i could play without it and had a really solid inner timing set up.
Tools that help people learn stuff quicker are cool. Designing your own methods of faster learning is like the height of intelligence in my opinion. Especially when there's no rules being broken, No laws being ignored
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On July 14 2011 19:45 mdb wrote:
Everything that in one or another way helps you ingame is and is not develpoed by Blizzard is 100% cheating. There is a reason why on chess tournaments the players dont bring their opening books with them.
I doubt he's going to be using this at mlg.
Don't worry about it.
Every time i look at my watch it reminds me to scout.. should i remove it? :S bit of a cheat right? :S
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On July 14 2011 19:51 Eleaven wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2011 19:45 mdb wrote:
Everything that in one or another way helps you ingame is and is not develpoed by Blizzard is 100% cheating. There is a reason why on chess tournaments the players dont bring their opening books with them. I doubt he's going to be using this at mlg. Don't worry about it. Every time i look at my watch it reminds me to scout.. should i remove it? :S bit of a cheat right? :S
It doesnt matter where people are going to use it, the fact stands - this is cheating and cheating is not good.
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