• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:43
CEST 08:43
KST 15:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection1Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview4[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)7
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th92Weekly Cups (May 18-25): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League4Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double1Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th Changing from 12 to 8 is just asking for StarCraft TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Welcome to the External Content forum Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue
Brood War
General
FlaShFTW vs A.Alm Grudge Match Event Soma's ASL Finals Review BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ VPN experiences Every Matchup's Top 5 Winrates (all ASLs & KSLs)
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [BSL22] WB Final & LB Semis - Saturday 21:00 CEST
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Customization Drives Loyalty…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1675 users

[July] SC2 General Discussion - Page 27

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 25 26 27 28 29 31 Next All
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 02 2011 12:30 GMT
#521
On the other hand having your army FF'd and a mess of stalkers blink under your corruptors while the collosii step back and rain hell down on your army... But then you burrow and move forward while dancing your corruptors back as fast as you can and fungal the blink stalkers and try to drop ITs near the collo so they don't target your supply army.


There's a lot of room for crazy micro. I'm not saying your wrong- I just want to point out that comparing a 1 and 11 year old game isn't apt.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Veriol
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic502 Posts
August 02 2011 17:46 GMT
#522
Hey guys,
im zerg (high diamond) and all I hear all time on streams or from commentators is you NEED TO be ahead by 1base in zvt/zvp in order to play succesful macro game. Now when I play and terran goes tank/rine push and I did such fast third build im never able to hold it, same goes for 6gate/5gate robo from toss.
So after this experience I started to favour early tech instead of fast third. As soon as I started doing this i just seem to crush any T/P midgame push/plan and expo+counter right away wich usually nets me win or puts me ahead.
Now im asking why its said that you have to keep one base up of ur oponent when ur zerg?
"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape." -iloveoov
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 02 2011 18:07 GMT
#523
I can only assume from what you're describing (in regard to ZvP) is a heavy attack/all in. Okay, I know someone will say SIX GATE ISNT ALL IN!

It's a heavy attack that if unsuccessful puts Protoss incredibly behind. It's design is to catch a fast third underdefended and inflict heavy damage or outright kill Zerg. So if you stay on equal bases and go for higher tech.. Hey, you can win the fight and if your counter goes flawlessly then cripple or kill your opponent.

At least that's what I think!

As far as I'm concerned with ZvT I keep 1 base up not for mining but for production. Since it's a macro hatch in my natural I don't really count that as staying ahead one base.

Those would be my thoughts.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Xrossfade
Profile Joined August 2011
5 Posts
August 02 2011 18:51 GMT
#524
Hey guys this is kind of off topic of the general discussion, but I am new to the SC community and first off would like to start by saying that I love the game for the little that I've played it so far. I was wondering though I am not very good at the game at all. I've played numerous me vs computer customs, as well as trying to do my practice league matches and I have won a total of 2 of those. Would any of you on here be willing to adopt a noob and help me get better? I'd really appreciate it and thanks a ton! :D
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 02 2011 19:03 GMT
#525
What race do you like to play and what server are you on (North American, EU, et cetera)
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Xrossfade
Profile Joined August 2011
5 Posts
August 02 2011 19:12 GMT
#526
I don't really have a preference, I've played toss the most but I'm open to switching. I'm on the North American server
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 02 2011 19:27 GMT
#527
I found a lot of help and a few friends by posting my info in The Practice Partner Thread. That combined with the teamliquid channel in game (just type it into the box under channels) populated my friends list pretty fast when I started playing ^_^

Oh and you could make a blog here
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
opm1s6
Profile Joined September 2010
United States42 Posts
August 02 2011 19:37 GMT
#528
On August 01 2011 17:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 17:37 Vestige wrote:
so..how fast do you guys think this blue flame hellion thing is going to pick up in ladder. as a zerg...im scared...

It's been going off and on the ladder for a while. I know some zergs are already starting to go blind roach warren to counter it kind of like right after the whole TLO "megarax" there were a lot of zergs making a blind bane nest. I would expect it to really pick up for the next week or so, and depending on success and possible zerg solutions to the build, you'll see it eventually die down as people shift back to whatever build they are most comfortable with.


I remember the days when people would start marauders, switch to hellions and then switch to banshees. I was shocked when that build went away because it was such a pain in the butt to deal with until you hit muta. I think all of the marine heavy strats from pro-players diverted a lot of attention from those builds. I'll definitely be putting up a roach warren more often, but I'm trying to do anything blind :p.


On August 01 2011 19:46 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
A new Dustin Browder interview about Heart of swarm was published today. here is the link:Starcraft 2 HoS interview with Dustin Browder

He talks talks about the multiplayer balance as well as the potential changes in HoS. To me the stuff he said seems entirely reasonable and promising. Apparently, Blizzard is not as oblivious to game balance and the demands of the community as people say.

What do you guys think about the interview?

edit : Im not entirely sure if this warrants a new thread. If it does, I'll be happy to post one.


I'd rather have a defiler, although that will probably break the game. Lurkers would be cool, but I feel like that wouldn't be enough. It's like someone took your ice cream cone, ate half of it and handed it back to you. If you're going to take it away, I'd at least want something cool in it's place and I've never felt like zerg has had that, even with roach/burrow.
Xrossfade
Profile Joined August 2011
5 Posts
August 02 2011 20:08 GMT
#529
On August 03 2011 04:27 Probe1 wrote:
I found a lot of help and a few friends by posting my info in The Practice Partner Thread. That combined with the teamliquid channel in game (just type it into the box under channels) populated my friends list pretty fast when I started playing ^_^

Oh and you could make a blog here



Thanks a ton man! and where do I post a plog?
Baseic
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands310 Posts
August 02 2011 20:18 GMT
#530
On August 01 2011 19:46 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
A new Dustin Browder interview about Heart of swarm was published today. here is the link:Starcraft 2 HoS interview with Dustin Browder

He talks talks about the multiplayer balance as well as the potential changes in HoS. To me the stuff he said seems entirely reasonable and promising. Apparently, Blizzard is not as oblivious to game balance and the demands of the community as people say.

What do you guys think about the interview?

edit : Im not entirely sure if this warrants a new thread. If it does, I'll be happy to post one.


In this interview DB mentions that they are aware of the issues with fungal growth.
I was also aware of these problems, I thought, but Dustin mentions that they're still not sure if it's strong enough, that it may be too weak.
This is quite the opposite of what I thought, what are your opinions on this?
Etc.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 20:27:48
August 02 2011 20:21 GMT
#531
I made a three second step by step guide with pictures.

Click on Profile
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Click on My Blog (Right below the horse that's begging for me to update my new adblocker)
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Click on new blog entry!
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Just try to put some thought into it. There's a pretty heavy line between useless post/blog and acceptable but if it's really bad..

Anyway, cheers and welcome to Team Liquid!


Oh yeah Baseic: He does not say there is a problem.

This is the quote
DB: There's currently a concern with the Zerg Infestor's power fungal growth. I still hear a lot of complaints about the Zerg still not being strong enough, as well as Terrans still being too flexible.


Concern is a very different connotation than problem. Problem implies it's broken. Concern means they're worried it might be but aren't sure.

Afaik fungal isn't OP, T/P not getting HT/Ghosts is shooting them in the foot.


YO JIN RO Where's the August thread?
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Baseic
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands310 Posts
August 02 2011 20:39 GMT
#532
On August 03 2011 05:21 Probe1 wrote:
I made a three second step by step guide with pictures.

Click on Profile
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Click on My Blog (Right below the horse that's begging for me to update my new adblocker)
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Click on new blog entry!
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Just try to put some thought into it. There's a pretty heavy line between useless post/blog and acceptable but if it's really bad..

Anyway, cheers and welcome to Team Liquid!


Oh yeah Baseic: He does not say there is a problem.

This is the quote
Show nested quote +
DB: There's currently a concern with the Zerg Infestor's power fungal growth. I still hear a lot of complaints about the Zerg still not being strong enough, as well as Terrans still being too flexible.


Concern is a very different connotation than problem. Problem implies it's broken. Concern means they're worried it might be but aren't sure.

Afaik fungal isn't OP, T/P not getting HT/Ghosts is shooting them in the foot.


YO JIN RO Where's the August thread?

Okay, thank you, though my comment didnt focus on whether it's a problem or a concern
Etc.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 02 2011 20:55 GMT
#533
Sorry, let me rephrase. It is my opinion that the current balance is strong for Terran in early game and strong for Zerg in late game. Excluding the obvious (Things that tournament maps prohibit like walling the bottom of ramps and close positions) the game is balanced enough as is without nerfing infestor or marines.

I might be wrong but I think there should be at least another two months before the game is drastically altered.. again.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Baseic
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands310 Posts
August 02 2011 20:58 GMT
#534
On August 03 2011 05:55 Probe1 wrote:
Sorry, let me rephrase. It is my opinion that the current balance is strong for Terran in early game and strong for Zerg in late game. Excluding the obvious (Things that tournament maps prohibit like walling the bottom of ramps and close positions) the game is balanced enough as is without nerfing infestor or marines.

I might be wrong but I think there should be at least another two months before the game is drastically altered.. again.

Okay, I don't mean to turn this into a balance discussion, but I was hesistant to use infestors as I thought they were too strong and would get nerfed. Reading the interview made me doubt, rightfully.
Etc.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 21:09:13
August 02 2011 21:08 GMT
#535
Personally I don't put too much stock into what Dustin Browder says. Also I would prefer to have the evil we know.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
csana
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary6 Posts
August 02 2011 23:39 GMT
#536
hy

i want the sc bw zerg theme music copy into sc2 zerg music folder. this is probably, or legal?
csana
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 00:25:24
August 03 2011 00:20 GMT
#537
Search for the thread, it's already been made. Just like changing your home screen or the screens when you select Z/P/T/R it is against the terms of service but there isn't exactly a line of people saying they were banned for doing it.

우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
csana
Profile Joined April 2011
Hungary6 Posts
August 03 2011 00:53 GMT
#538
that's too bad. thanks. the winamp is left over i think :D
csana
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 03 2011 01:04 GMT
#539
I felt helpful after dinner.
This is the thread you're looking for.

FYI/Disclaimer
MPQ Editing is not endorsed by Teamliquid nor is it recommended as Blizzard actively takes steps to stop and prevent it.

Be warned and do this at your own peril.

-Nyovne
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
ktimekiller
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States690 Posts
August 03 2011 01:06 GMT
#540
Can you spawn top down abyssal caverns?
Prev 1 25 26 27 28 29 31 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 17m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft1035
Tasteless 0
StarCraft: Brood War
firebathero 896
GuemChi 591
Larva 116
Noble 13
League of Legends
JimRising 755
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1323
Other Games
summit1g5443
C9.Mang0482
PiGStarcraft444
Mew2King93
RuFF_SC250
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL218
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH148
• Response 42
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1253
• Stunt466
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
17m
Lambo vs Rogue
Clem vs TBD
herO vs TBD
IntoTheiNu 34
Tasteless0
Maestros of the Game
6h 17m
SHIN vs Nicoract
Rogue vs Gerald
ByuN vs Shameless
Cure vs TriGGeR
OSC
6h 17m
IPSL
9h 17m
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
Showmatch
9h 17m
Percival vs Lambo
ByuN vs Clem
YoungYakov vs GuMiho
ByuN vs Creator
BSL
12h 17m
Wardi Open
1d 5h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 9h
Replay Cast
1d 17h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
Maestros of the Game
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Solar vs Classic
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
Murky Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026

Upcoming

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #3
Heroes Pulsing #2
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.