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This isn't going to turn into another LoL vs (all other games apparently) thread. You can speak your mind about the selection of games but keep it civil. | ||
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DonKey_
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
It's easy see why QL was replaced by LoL, because their viewer count is MUCH larger even if the skill required is less. (their Dream Hack viewers were something like 200,000 concurrently<--- not a made up number, google it) I'm happy for LoL it's amazing a game other than SC2 can bring in numbers like that. | ||
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DonKey_
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
On June 28 2011 03:21 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: The problem that most people have with sc2 is that it is a simplified version of broodwar. There is a huge difference in skill between the top sc2 players and the top brood war players. Just because there are 200k people watching a stream does not make it an esport. Just because something is easier doesn't mean it's a bad thing. EDIT: This isn't my view of sc2, but I'm trying to prove a point. I don't think that is a fair comparison. I would say LoL is way more simplified than SC2 though. I think SC2 almost hit the perfect balance between casual friendly and highly competitive. On the other hand, LoL is way too casual friendly for me to take it seriously as a competitive game. After I play about 250ish games on LoL, I felt like I already hit my peak of skill, and that all I needed to do was learn where to ward, random meticulous things, and how to judge certain situations...but as far as actually controlling my individual champion, there didn't seem like room for improvement. And that was kind of a stupid feeling because I knew I was no pro at that game. I cannot say the same for SC2 or HoN. | ||
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FinnGamer
Germany2426 Posts
Is the pricepool bigger than the last time? | ||
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havox_
Germany442 Posts
So seriously, there is no money in it for anybody - and no matter how naive you are, obv thats not what an organizer needs - anyways, LoL suxx... But can't wait for some more awesome SC2 tourneys =) | ||
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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
On June 28 2011 04:08 DonKey_ wrote: People really shouldn't be trying to put down LoL just because they feel it's a "casual" game; this is no WoW arena repeat this game actually has a large viewership believe it or not. It's easy see why QL was replaced by LoL, because their viewer count is MUCH larger even if the skill required is less. (their Dream Hack viewers were something like 200,000 concurrently<--- not a made up number, google it) I'm happy for LoL it's amazing a game other than SC2 can bring in numbers like that. It has nothing to do with skill, it has to do with, as you said, viewer count. Quake Live would get ~10,000 views -- maybe. LoL streams pull 200,000 consistently. There is no other logical reason why they would pull QL. | ||
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MisterTea
United Kingdom1047 Posts
On June 27 2011 23:25 Slasher wrote: Quake removed - you are DEAD to me Carmac. Quake (and Counter-Strike) are the games that created the term eSports in the first place - not Korean Starcraft. The Quake series has had consistent tournament since 1997 when Thresh won John Carmack's ferrari. It deserves to stay. doesn't matter what started it, it's whats going to produce the most money at the end of the day, and tbh Quakelive is a pretty stale game, LoL is such a better game competetively | ||
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
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Derity
Germany2952 Posts
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3772
Czech Republic434 Posts
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On June 28 2011 04:08 DonKey_ wrote: People really shouldn't be trying to put down LoL just because they feel it's a "casual" game; this is no WoW arena repeat, this game actually has a large viewership believe it or not. It's easy see why QL was replaced by LoL, because their viewer count is MUCH larger even if the skill required is less. (their Dream Hack viewers were something like 200,000 concurrently<--- not a made up number, google it) I'm happy for LoL it's amazing a game other than SC2 can bring in numbers like that. still its sad that the greatest and most skillful fps still actively beeing playd gets removed for the joke of a game lol is. yeah many play it yeah it has a big viewership. but esports wise its not much better for me then any random needforspeed,fifa or whatever | ||
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frozenrb
Poland389 Posts
On June 28 2011 00:17 TBO wrote: While I agree that it sucks that QL isn't in anymore, why is there no QL in MLG  Good point to Slasher.... why there is no QL on mlg ? On June 28 2011 03:01 SirMilford wrote: Just because there are 200k people watching a stream does not make it an esport. Actually 200k people is very good. There are teams + ppl want to watch it + it's enjoyable = e-sport ? | ||
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headbus
Canada173 Posts
On June 28 2011 04:08 DonKey_ wrote: People really shouldn't be trying to put down LoL just because they feel it's a "casual" game; this is no WoW arena repeat, this game actually has a large viewership believe it or not. It's easy see why QL was replaced by LoL, because their viewer count is MUCH larger even if the skill required is less. (their Dream Hack viewers were something like 200,000 concurrently<--- not a made up number, google it) I'm happy for LoL it's amazing a game other than SC2 can bring in numbers like that. QL pulls 200k viewers because all the kids who are begging there parents for the latest CoD watch it. Sad to see QL gone, next they'll be replacing cs 1.6 with some new shitty CoD title because it pulls more viewers. | ||
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IMLegend
Germany28 Posts
<@SyncError|home> LoL paid their way in. <@SyncError|home> We offered to do the same, but they said they couldn't run 4 games. syncerror is ID's community manager for quake live pretty sad day imo. | ||
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MechKing
United States3004 Posts
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MartinN
Spain307 Posts
On June 28 2011 04:32 headbus wrote: QL pulls 200k viewers because all the kids who are begging there parents for the latest CoD watch it. Sad to see QL gone, next they'll be replacing cs 1.6 with some new shitty CoD title because it pulls more viewers. Counter-Strike is impossible to remove | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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MavercK
Australia2181 Posts
quake live was fascinating can't believe they removed it LoL buy their way into everything, makes me very angry. | ||
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frozenrb
Poland389 Posts
On June 28 2011 04:25 BeMannerDuPenner wrote: still its sad that the greatest and most skillful fps still actively beeing playd gets removed for the joke of a game lol is. yeah many play it yeah it has a big viewership. but esports wise its not much better for me then any random needforspeed,fifa or whatever You mean Counter-Strike 1.6? Actoualy Fifa was quite good... | ||
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learning
United States104 Posts
On June 28 2011 04:25 BeMannerDuPenner wrote: still its sad that the greatest and most skillful fps still actively beeing playd gets removed for the joke of a game lol is. yeah many play it yeah it has a big viewership. but esports wise its not much better for me then any random needforspeed,fifa or whatever I'd like to see a group of people who call LoL an "easy no skill game" play on a team against CLG or Fnatic and tell me that its a no-brainer type of game. It requires skill and cooperation just like any other competitive game. The main difference I see between SC2 and QL compared to LoL is that in SC2 and QL are 1v1, and the teams play a background role (even in team/clan wars, its 1v1 game). In LoL its 5v5 and not everyone is going to be MORE KILLS SO EASY TO WIN. LoL in casual play is much different from LoL in competitive play IMO | ||
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