EPTI just want to see the best SC2 possible, I don't care if my nationality is represented. It'll be a plus if it was but, not a requirement.
The Korean Online Invasion - what do you prefer? - Page 7
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
I just want to see the best SC2 possible, I don't care if my nationality is represented. It'll be a plus if it was but, not a requirement. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
It's really a question of effort and money at this point, not of genetics. | ||
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Looky
United States1608 Posts
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Jakkerr
Netherlands2549 Posts
koreans will win every online tourney they enter because they have a few builds they pratice about 100.000 times a day that counter most builds ur opponent can do. If u have such an arsenal of builds it's only normal you can make it this far in tourneys, I wanna make a bet that almost none of the korean games before the quarterfinals were longer then 15 mins. My point is, I'd rather watch the best Non-koreans competing since they are fun too watch and I sort of know who they are. I don't get that same feeling when watching Koreans at all, sure they play good but I couldn't give a **** who wins or loses when I watch them playing  | ||
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vrok
Sweden2541 Posts
On June 26 2011 08:48 Beastyqt wrote: I've heard quite a few comments already from EU progamers something like "whats the point in even going to lan's if MC or any player of his caliber are going to attend it". Then they are a disgrace to their profession and should quit and stick to playing ladder/customs with their friends like the rest of us who are too bad to compete. We don't want to watch them play. | ||
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aristarchus
United States652 Posts
On June 26 2011 08:48 Beastyqt wrote: ... Who would get motivation to practise when you know that they have MORE and BETTER practise than you since they have progamer houses and good schedule for practising plus basically better opponents to practise with. I saw someone wrote "dont be coward to play koreans and go practise more", I doubt any foreigner is scared to play them, but its really discouraging to know from now on that you cant even play online tournaments without koreans in them - lets face it they are better than foreigners (in general ALL foreigners vs ALL koreans) and that will never change for reason I said above. You say it'll never change because Koreans have team houses and practice schedules, etc., but there's no reason those things can't exist outside Korea. Yeah, lots of players (and I bet lots of teams, too) don't have the drive or practical circumstances to do those things. What's going to have to happen is that those players who do will consolidate and practice with each other (maybe dropping the number of foreign teams) and push to get as good as the Koreans. If there are enough talented people willing to do that, there will be an active sc2 pro scene in the west. If there aren't enough, the west will just be watching and it'll go back to anyone who wants to really earn a living playing having to move to Korea. | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
sure they play good but I couldn't give a **** who wins or loses when I watch them playing you obviously never followed BW. ^^ | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On June 26 2011 08:54 aristarchus wrote: You say it'll never change because Koreans have team houses and practice schedules, etc., but there's no reason those things can't exist outside Korea. Yeah, lots of players (and I bet lots of teams, too) don't have the drive or practical circumstances to do those things. What's going to have to happen is that those players who do will consolidate and practice with each other (maybe dropping the number of foreign teams) and push to get as good as the Koreans. If there are enough talented people willing to do that, there will be an active sc2 pro scene in the west. If there aren't enough, the west will just be watching and it'll go back to anyone who wants to really earn a living playing having to move to Korea. Some European teams are already consolidating and forming houses. International competition might actually be working. | ||
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On June 26 2011 08:53 Hrrrrm wrote: Highlander. If SC2 ends up like BW it'll be the fault of all the NA/EU players that decided to slack at the beginning since they were getting easy money just because they were local and not necessarily because they were the best. If you want to be the best you gotta put MORE or EQUAL amounts of time that your competitors put in. If not you'll always be second fiddle and sooner or later irrelevant. I just want to see the best SC2 possible, I don't care if my nationality is represented. It'll be a plus if it was but, not a requirement. I can't entirely agree with this. First off I too don't care about nationality, at least not much (I was cheering for quite a few Koreans to do well in the NASL over foreigners) but having more "local" tournaments can lead to sc2 being taken more seriously. That would include having more team houses, more teams, more events, more viewers, and esports being more widely accepted around the world. The other point I wanted to make was in responce to "I just want to see the best SC2 possible." Would you honestly rather watch two well programmed computers play against each other if those computers would show the best starcraft? And then those computers would keep playing each other over and over because they are the most well programmed? That's an honest question if you'd be willing to answer. Since when did watching games only become about nothing but skill. What about the story of the players, and the fan interaction. Don't get me wrong, I too appreciate good games, but I think it is a bit ridiculous to just say that all you can care about is the highest skill. | ||
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
Why would I not want to see the best players whenever possible. Denying Koreans would be pretty pathetic. | ||
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JohnnyBlaze420
Australia806 Posts
It should make foreigners wanna step up their games! | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On June 26 2011 08:58 Chicane wrote: The other point I wanted to make was in responce to "I just want to see the best SC2 possible." Would you honestly rather watch two well programmed computers play against each other if those computers would show the best starcraft? And then those computers would keep playing each other over and over because they are the most well programmed? That's an honest question if you'd be willing to answer. People pay massive amounts of money to see Flash and Jaedong play. Just FYI. | ||
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two.watup
United States371 Posts
You can change their names to Josh and William in your mind, if you want foreign representation. Korea supports progaming more. It's better to have the money going towards competitive infrastructure that can last 13 years (BW). | ||
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MechKing
United States3004 Posts
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KiLL_ORdeR
United States1518 Posts
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
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vnlegend
United States1389 Posts
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ribboo
Sweden1842 Posts
On June 26 2011 08:54 Jakkerr wrote: It's pretty simple, koreans will win every online tourney they enter because they have a few builds they pratice about 100.000 times a day that counter most builds ur opponent can do. If u have such an arsenal of builds it's only normal you can make it this far in tourneys, I wanna make a bet that almost none of the korean games before the quarterfinals were longer then 15 mins. My point is, I'd rather watch the best Non-koreans competing since they are fun too watch and I sort of know who they are. I don't get that same feeling when watching Koreans at all, sure they play good but I couldn't give a **** who wins or loses when I watch them playing yes, they 4 gate. why do anything else when ur playing scrubs? I played hwangsin today, why would he do anything time consuming when he can 4gate me? when it gets to quarterfinals, when they reach bo3, they do other stuff. simple as that. | ||
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ThePhan2m
Norway2739 Posts
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