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Payson
United States394 Posts
Today while laddering I was doing fairly well to start off my day. I got off for a bit to eat dinner and came back to ladder a few more games before I ended my day. My last 3 games however, I haven't won or lost any points from the outcome of the match. I'm 2-1 in my last three games and in my match history and on my rank, I have neither gained nor lost any points. Is this a glitch in Blizzard's matchmaking system at the moment? Thanks. | ||
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chrusher97
Canada811 Posts
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Sanitys
Canada126 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
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MoofinMan
United States12 Posts
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nitdkim
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brutality
United States167 Posts
On June 24 2011 10:55 travis wrote: It's too hard to make it so the ladder maintains basic functionality. Do you guys have any idea of the logistics of maintaining hundreds of possible achievements per user? you mad b/c you didn't get your points for beating cammy? :D (sry that sounded stalkerish. was talking to him on vent while he was playing you) blizzard prob doing a hot fix or something | ||
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ApBuLLet
United States604 Posts
 basically just keep playing and when it is fixed you will get your points later on. I don't know why it does it but it won't effect you in any way except you won't receive your points instantly like normal, that's all. | ||
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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
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TheBrofessor
Canada429 Posts
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
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QTIP.
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iamahydralisk
United States813 Posts
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Housemd
United States1407 Posts
On June 24 2011 11:00 TheBrofessor wrote: So is it not just me who has nothing at all loading and one person is favored every match? no, same here. | ||
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Silent331
United States356 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
It seems like the system thinks you are in placement match. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On June 24 2011 10:58 brutality wrote: you mad b/c you didn't get your points for beating cammy? :D (sry that sounded stalkerish. was talking to him on vent while he was playing you) blizzard prob doing a hot fix or something be stalkerish all you want, cammy lost because he went mass stalkers heyooooooooooooooooo | ||
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skYiSThe_LimiT
United States15 Posts
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brutality
United States167 Posts
On June 24 2011 11:03 travis wrote: be stalkerish all you want, cammy lost because he went mass stalkers heyooooooooooooooooo haha yeah he does that... | ||
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-_-
United States7081 Posts
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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
On June 24 2011 11:03 -_- wrote: Maybe they're prepping the ladder for season 3. maybe they should tell us beforehand.... (-.-) | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On June 24 2011 11:03 -_- wrote: Maybe they're prepping the ladder for season 3. This might be it, especially w/ patch 1.3.5 | ||
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Pl4t0
United States103 Posts
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Dingobloo
Australia1903 Posts
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algorithm0r
Canada486 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
Edit: To contribute, this is probably a hotfix, because blizzard would have to change something for this to happen, and it hasn't been announced. | ||
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sCfO20
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HydroXy
United States513 Posts
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bendez
Canada283 Posts
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Boony
Australia87 Posts
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
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Ichabod
United States1659 Posts
On June 24 2011 11:17 bendez wrote: I think the "favored" system is bugged as well. Someone with much lower points than me was favored 2 times now. "Favored" isn't based on points btw; Heres all the info you need on the ladder: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=ladder&t=t&f=-1&u=excalibur_z&gb=date&d= | ||
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RedDragon571
United States633 Posts
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Bedward
United States28 Posts
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
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Steelavocado
United States2123 Posts
Have a good night! Edit: Seems like it is just another ladder bug XD.OOOOoooOoohhwell! | ||
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SniXSniPe
United States1938 Posts
edit: I think I also lost bonus pool (even though I gained no points). Someone want to confirm? | ||
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Siphonn
United States298 Posts
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HaifischSC
United States7 Posts
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HydroXy
United States513 Posts
There does appear to be an issue with the Battle.net service currently. We are aware of the situation and investigating now. In the meantime, there may be some stability issues, and ladder wins/losses will not result in point change. We will work to resolve the situation as soon as possible, but no ETA is available at this time. http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2721382508#7 | ||
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Ichabod
United States1659 Posts
Edit: Good to hear Excalibur_Z's on the case, thanks for confirmation | ||
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Omer
Israel442 Posts
On June 24 2011 11:40 Ichabod wrote: Hopefully MMR is still changing; has anyone gotten promoted since the issue arose? no, but i've been playing people absurdly higher then me, im currently a 1.2k point diamond and playing like 1.1-1.4k point master leaguers. | ||
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Mulu731
United States99 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12240 Posts
On June 24 2011 11:40 Ichabod wrote: Hopefully MMR is still changing; has anyone gotten promoted since the issue arose? Edit: There seem to be reports of people being stuck on 5 placement matches; it could be caused by the same issue if it's widespread. The "stuck on 5 placement matches" thing is an old bug but it's just a display issue, the games are still being counted. I got a PM from a guy about an hour ago who complained that he hasn't been promoted, then another PM 9 minutes later where he got promoted in the very next game, so I think promotions and MMR are still working normally. | ||
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Hister
United States89 Posts
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Pl4t0
United States103 Posts
...after getting stuck when Bnet reset mid-game and had to decide who won with rock-paper scissors. | ||
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BigBadBeaver
Canada272 Posts
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Valestrum
United States246 Posts
On June 24 2011 11:58 Pl4t0 wrote: Seems to be fixed on NA (don't know if other servers were affected or not), got points for my last match. ...after getting stuck when Bnet reset mid-game and had to decide who won with rock-paper scissors. Just played a 1v1 and 2v2 today, didn't get the points :/ | ||
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-_-
United States7081 Posts
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Calm
Canada380 Posts
We could navigate around bases and click stuff, but everything was frozen. Anyone else have this happen just recently? | ||
p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
On June 24 2011 12:04 p4NDemik wrote: I just got my points for like 4 wins but bnet seems to be far from stable atm. Just had a game totally freeze after 20 minutes with no lag, could chat and everything real time, guy was very manner and we Rock/Paper/Scissors to see who would leave. So who had to choose first? | ||
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Xandor42
Canada3 Posts
On June 24 2011 12:03 Calm wrote: Same happening for me, and then a game "paused" We could navigate around bases and click stuff, but everything was frozen. Anyone else have this happen just recently? Yeah, I just played a PvZ and the game froze like you describe. I offered to play rock paper scissors for the game, but he offered to drop the game since the ladder was being weird. Manner fellow, that one. | ||
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
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Calm
Canada380 Posts
On June 24 2011 12:08 Xandor42 wrote: Yeah, I just played a PvZ and the game froze like you describe. I offered to play rock paper scissors for the game, but he offered to drop the game since the ladder was being weird. Manner fellow, that one. Hah same thing in mine, only we talked it out honestly to decide who was ahead. Really nice guy as well, and it turned out that we guessed right, the score screen confirmed I was ahead : P | ||
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
Countdown from three, it alternated between who responded first though we responded within like 1 10th of a second of each other. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
Hope it will be like this forever :D | ||
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Xandor42
Canada3 Posts
On June 24 2011 12:11 p4NDemik wrote: Actually I got points for the one game that was frozen, still haven't recieved points for the last 4 before that. Yeah, the one game i played that froze gave me points, but the rest of the games including a few others after it gave me none. Odd. | ||
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bakedace
United States672 Posts
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DKo
United States187 Posts
No 1k points tonight | ||
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Yamulo
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Deleted User 3420
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stupid bnet i play, i get a loss. -8 pts i play, i get a win. don't look at results play, another win play, another win then i look at match history. the loss is -8 pts. all 3 wins, no point change. O_O | ||
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Wombutt
United States159 Posts
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Pengu1n
United States552 Posts
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Slayth
United States325 Posts
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andeh
United States904 Posts
guess it evens out since my last 3 losses didnt deduct :D | ||
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
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Kelmqtlol
United States91 Posts
I guess the weird part through this is the two people that I did play against were *extremely* easy, so maybe the favored thing was right? I don't mean it in a cocky way, but it felt like I was playing Gold players or something (the first person crumbled to a small tank push, the second one I got two bases up on them??). So I guess it's possible that their MMR was actually much lower, but for a person a league ahead of me to be that much lower in MMR? I didn't think that was possible but I don't have a perfect grasp of the system. All of these games rewarded me no points. =( | ||
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Peekaboo
Canada219 Posts
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rbkl
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5mxzf.png) Here was the message that was up at the login screen. | ||
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RedDragon571
United States633 Posts
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CecilSunkure
United States2829 Posts
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Namkung
Canada151 Posts
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Deleted User 3420
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On June 24 2011 14:28 CecilSunkure wrote: Sweet ladder matches without points time to fuck around with impunity. Except they don't tell you whether or not it will screw up your MMR | ||
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GhostBladE
United States6 Posts
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Nemasyst.598
United States285 Posts
Hopefully Blizz does something decent about it >.> I feel like the ladder is always broken in some way... | ||
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
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Petrina
United States178 Posts
On June 24 2011 14:31 travis wrote: Except they don't tell you whether or not it will screw up your MMR Oh man, I so hope that when they fix it they will correct those matches that we get no points for, so they do not stay forever with no points. I am very very close to a promotion and not getting any points after I just beat a favored player is so heartbreaking... Please please All mighty make it so that they matches will no point will show points or at least change the MMR correctly eventually. | ||
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Kracklings
United States116 Posts
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Osase
United States2 Posts
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CecilSunkure
United States2829 Posts
On June 24 2011 14:31 travis wrote: Except they don't tell you whether or not it will screw up your MMR So throw a bunch of matches -> they fix ladder, beat lots of ppl, gain lots of points? | ||
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Deleted User 3420
24492 Posts
On June 24 2011 14:48 CecilSunkure wrote: So throw a bunch of matches -> they fix ladder, beat lots of ppl, gain lots of points? LOL GOOD IDEA, HAHA im actually going to go do that right now LOL | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10366 Posts
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brian568
United States13 Posts
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/541086578 it seems that matches played will affect your mmr and they seem to imply that the points might change later on as well | ||
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Omer
Israel442 Posts
On June 24 2011 14:57 travis wrote: LOL GOOD IDEA, HAHA im actually going to go do that right now LOL im going to lol so hard if you get demoted | ||
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SDream
Brazil896 Posts
On June 24 2011 15:08 brian568 wrote: blizzard update: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/541086578 it seems that matches played will affect your mmr and they seem to imply that the points might change later on as well Look to the date of the post, it's about another issue that happened last year. | ||
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
On June 24 2011 10:55 travis wrote: It's too hard to make it so the ladder maintains basic functionality. Do you guys have any idea of the logistics of maintaining hundreds of possible achievements per user? loooool had a bad night on ladder. good thing it didn't count for any points. | ||
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SDream
Brazil896 Posts
On June 24 2011 14:57 travis wrote: LOL GOOD IDEA, HAHA im actually going to go do that right now LOL http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2416160162 | ||
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DeckOneBell
United States526 Posts
Which still sucks, but I mean, more forgiveable imo than ladder not doing points right | ||
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ROOTdrewbie
Canada1392 Posts
On June 24 2011 14:40 Petrina wrote: Oh man, I so hope that when they fix it they will correct those matches that we get no points for, so they do not stay forever with no points. I am very very close to a promotion and not getting any points after I just beat a favored player is so heartbreaking... Please please All mighty make it so that they matches will no point will show points or at least change the MMR correctly eventually. good plan maybe i will lose 50 games in a row | ||
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Omer
Israel442 Posts
he's not, it's not like he's getting the wins for free when he ladders again, it's just like demoting your account on puprose by a large lose streak | ||
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oDieN[Siege]
United States2905 Posts
On June 24 2011 15:18 Omer wrote: he's not, it's not like he's getting the wins for free when he ladders again, it's just like demoting your account on puprose by a large lose streak Uh oh... that's nassogood~ | ||
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Tanag
Canada204 Posts
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MapleFractal
Canada307 Posts
On June 24 2011 15:08 brian568 wrote: blizzard update: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/541086578 it seems that matches played will affect your mmr and they seem to imply that the points might change later on as well LOLOL way to post a thread thats is from August LAST YEAR | ||
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CapnCDaWg
United States179 Posts
On June 24 2011 15:23 MapleFractal wrote: LOLOL way to post a thread thats is from August LAST YEAR Ahahahahahahahahhahaha, nice catch sir | ||
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oDieN[Siege]
United States2905 Posts
On June 24 2011 15:23 MapleFractal wrote: LOLOL way to post a thread thats is from August LAST YEAR Rofl, nice. It's a blast from the past! | ||
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Prevolved
United States573 Posts
Lmfao I just laughed so hard. I didn't even catch it | ||
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lazydino
Canada331 Posts
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Incanus
Canada695 Posts
On June 24 2011 15:23 MapleFractal wrote: LOLOL way to post a thread thats is from August LAST YEAR And still not fixed, sad. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
I know this is a stupid question but do promotions require you gaining points? I've read in this thread that people have been promoted but nothing to do concerning whether they received points or not. | ||
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Myolden
Finland83 Posts
On June 24 2011 15:48 Probe1 wrote: I'll never get promoted to diamond -_- I know this is a stupid question but do promotions require you gaining points? I've read in this thread that people have been promoted but nothing to do concerning whether they received points or not. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=195273 | ||
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TangYiChen
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LittleAtari
Jordan1090 Posts
This guy DT rushed me close position shattered temple, but I was applying a lot of pressure and 4-gating. I scout the twilight council, throw down robo and block my ramp with pylons. A soon as I make an observer, i go back to put on pressure. He keeps trying to snipe my obs but i gots this. He starts yelling at me that there's no point in cheesing because the ladder isnt rewarding points. I tell him that i'm not cheesing, no proxy pylon and I point out that he DT rushed. Apparently 1 gate, 1 core, straight to tc and dark shrine isnt a rush to him... I started to BM him back. It was hilarious for me. =) replay, he freaks out at around 9 minutes in: http://www.sendspace.com/file/c2bib4 | ||
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Probe1
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wOOt
Australia121 Posts
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
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iamho
United States3347 Posts
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See.Blue
United States2673 Posts
On June 25 2011 00:05 iamho wrote: Did Blizzard say if our MMRs were changing at least? MMRs and promotions are still ok! | ||
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FezTheCaliph
United States492 Posts
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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
On June 25 2011 00:37 FezTheCaliph wrote: points are back! At least in NA. Just got points for my last match If anyone could confirm this that would be great. | ||
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DusTerr
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On June 25 2011 01:39 Blazinghand wrote: If anyone could confirm this that would be great. not going to test it yet, still getting | ||
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Kezzer
United States1268 Posts
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
A friend just lost 13 points on ladder 10 minutes ago. I cannot say if this is the case overall or just sporadically. | ||
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pwncakes
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Also it's not displaying the always favored bug anymore | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
On June 25 2011 01:49 pwncakes wrote: NA is fixed I think, just played 3 games and got +/- points for all of them Also it's not displaying the always favored bug anymore Cool! do you know if there is a retroactive points modification for the games during the outage? | ||
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Tanag
Canada204 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25558 Posts
On June 25 2011 01:58 Tanag wrote: I haven't had any retroactive changes yet, hopefully it does happen. I was more "worried" than hopeful, since a fair number of people I know were dicking around on the ladder, offracing, etc since they assumed it wasn't being tracked into the stats proper. | ||
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
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Socioz
United States5 Posts
Please note that ladder games played last evening while this issue was occurring should continue to affect your matchmaking rating; however, no point adjustments will be made retroactively. Thank you for your patience!" http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2721583050 | ||
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oDieN[Siege]
United States2905 Posts
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ribboo
Sweden1842 Posts
On June 25 2011 02:04 Blazinghand wrote: I was more "worried" than hopeful, since a fair number of people I know were dicking around on the ladder, offracing, etc since they assumed it wasn't being tracked into the stats proper. points and MMR have never had anything to do with each other, so that doesnt seem like a very smart thing to do. | ||
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Temporarykid
Canada362 Posts
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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sCfO20
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HEROwithNOlegacy
United States850 Posts
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DarKcS
Australia1237 Posts
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
On June 25 2011 12:08 DarKcS wrote: I had some good no frills games on ladder last night. I wish there was a pointless ladder system... But they fixed it though. They released the statement already.... | ||
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Ponyo
United States1231 Posts
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
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Petrina
United States178 Posts
Please note that ladder games played last evening while this issue was occurring should continue to affect your matchmaking rating; however, no point adjustments will be made retroactively. Oh yes! Thank you! I had one game last night (trying to promote to diamond) and I beat a diamond player that was slightly favored or maybe favored against me. Having the MMR adjusted accordingly puts me that much closer to promotion! I don't care about points as long as my MMR is properly updated. | ||
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McGuire72
Canada140 Posts
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Lobotomist
United States1541 Posts
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canikizu
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MacroKing
Canada298 Posts
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stormchaser
Canada1009 Posts
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bakedace
United States672 Posts
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ForeverSleep
Canada920 Posts
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Beren
United States514 Posts
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Rasun
United States787 Posts
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ribboo
Sweden1842 Posts
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425kid
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Imerej
Canada291 Posts
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Wi)nD
Canada719 Posts
On June 24 2011 10:59 ApBuLLet wrote: This happens all the time and there's always these types of threads coming up basically just keep playing and when it is fixed you will get your points later on. I don't know why it does it but it won't effect you in any way except you won't receive your points instantly like normal, that's all.r u sure u get the pts after? b/c usaly when this happends i never seem to get any points +/- were i was before this starts | ||
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stormchaser
Canada1009 Posts
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
Will the games that we win still count towards promotion? Or do you guys think it will have the same effect as our points and give us no credit..? | ||
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auTo.ckc
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On June 27 2011 10:08 425kid wrote: New season? Ladder locking = you still get points in your division, you just dont promote or demote. No points right now is bug | ||
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bakedace
United States672 Posts
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Hoon
Brazil891 Posts
He messaged CatZ asking if he got no points for his win. | ||
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
like 3hours ago i was, then i played some customs, now last 2 games no points | ||
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stormchaser
Canada1009 Posts
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Powerforged2
Canada48 Posts
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SilverJohnny
United States885 Posts
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
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Powerforged2
Canada48 Posts
On June 27 2011 10:32 Zapdos_Smithh wrote: Nothing gained or lost? Am I the only one who likes this idea? I just want to get my MMR up and not worry about points... Hmm, i'm kind of worried to ladder actually, the two players I played agains where I was favored I literally roll over them, like they were bad. THe guy I played against who was favored rolled me hard. Couldn't check profiles cause their profile wouldn't load. Edit: Just finished a game where nobody was favored, slightly favored or evenly matched. Just blank. Profile wouldn't load | ||
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Spacely
United States108 Posts
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SiDX
New Zealand1975 Posts
On June 27 2011 10:38 Spacely wrote: I always get such unfair match ups with the ladder.. I'm silver and get matched up against Platinum and Diamond.. maybe this has something to do with it? Sounds like you are near a promotion | ||
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GMonster
686 Posts
Not if its only happening today, i match gm players from masters... which isn't too unheard of but iNcontrOL is like 40-0 against me so that should show you my skill level lol. | ||
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Steel
Japan2283 Posts
i play against 1500 masters opponents (im like 1300), i'm favored, and winning/losing does nothing lol. | ||
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Legend`
Canada381 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13393 Posts
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NrT.RuSH
Germany214 Posts
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eNtitY~
United States1293 Posts
On June 27 2011 10:53 NrT.RuSH wrote: Will they add/deduct points when they fix? They didn't last time it happened a few days ago | ||
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doomed
Australia420 Posts
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Cha1R
United States221 Posts
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NrT.RuSH
Germany214 Posts
I was about to move into 3rd place Global for 2v2 random with those points i would of got | ||
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ribboo
Sweden1842 Posts
On June 27 2011 10:46 GoKu` wrote: Not if its only happening today, i match gm players from masters... which isn't too unheard of but iNcontrOL is like 40-0 against me so that should show you my skill level lol. high masters will obviously face GMs, they do not only face each other you know.. | ||
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FBH_Kreator
Canada30 Posts
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birdkicker
United States752 Posts
We are also in the same ladder divsion so I'd be nice if i won some pts and he lost some  | ||
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
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tuestresfat
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eNtitY~
United States1293 Posts
EDIT: According to Rush it seems to be :/ | ||
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dartoo
India2889 Posts
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Cofo
United States1388 Posts
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Xolo
Canada107 Posts
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ForeverSleep
Canada920 Posts
On June 27 2011 11:14 eNtitY~ wrote: Is it broken for 2's and 3's too? EDIT: According to Rush it seems to be :/ Yes it is, We could not get into a league after the 5 placement matches. It keeps telling us to play one more game. | ||
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Raambo11
United States828 Posts
Also does bnet seem incredibly slow for anyone else? | ||
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UmiNotsuki
United States633 Posts
Not even "slightly" xD | ||
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xJokerr
United States2 Posts
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pig-dude
United States170 Posts
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OneStepAbove
United States45 Posts
On June 27 2011 11:27 Raambo11 wrote: Not trying to troll or anything, but this is incredibly frustrating. It already happened once, and at least that time they put a message on bnet that they knew about the problem. Nothing of the sort yet, and last time it took forever to fix. The only consoling idea is that mmr changes at least. Also does bnet seem incredibly slow for anyone else? Yeah b.net has been super slow past couple days. IE: My rank won't show up on screen for like 10 seconds...same with trying to look at my match history and stuff like that. Ugh :-/ Hopefully it gets fixed soon | ||
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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
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rickybobby
United States405 Posts
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UmiNotsuki
United States633 Posts
On June 27 2011 11:34 SigmaoctanusIV wrote: Yeah I have played and it's really hit and miss if I will get ladder points at the end ofthe game. Curious if when they "Fix" this issue if the points we would have earned/lost will be given to our accounts. In my experience they always give you the points you earned, but sadly it's hard to know if they'll also increase your MMR appropriately, or if your MMR still increases even while the points are glitched out of existence. Has anyone been promoted during all this? If not, when Blizzard gets this fixed, if you're suddenly promoted without playing any further games I'd like to hear about it. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
Easter Egg: Your game will randomly not count as win or lose. | ||
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gun.slinger
Canada258 Posts
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OhMyGawd
United States264 Posts
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starcraft911
Korea (South)1263 Posts
LADDER!!! WHY YOU NO WORK!?!?! On June 27 2011 11:40 gun.slinger wrote: does each and every single of you play for the sole purpose of amassing ladder points? o.o No, but i am very goal oriented so having some obtainable goal is pretty important to make me want to play. For me that goal was to get #1 in my division. | ||
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United States408 Posts
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United States225 Posts
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United States638 Posts
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eXwOn
Canada351 Posts
On June 27 2011 12:53 StreetHeat wrote: Another side effect for me is that it's putting me on maps I vetoed Now that you mention it, yea. I was super curios why I was playing a TvT on shakurus. | ||
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United States291 Posts
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Canada348 Posts
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uGotRolled
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Spiders
United States86 Posts
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Canada719 Posts
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HypernovA
Canada556 Posts
On June 27 2011 13:11 Wi)nD wrote: do u get the pts when it is all fixed? like the games that arnt counting now will count later? Nope | ||
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TelecoM
United States10691 Posts
I don't know about you guys but my MMR seems completely out of whack, as well, is there any source to say that MMR still works when ladder points aren't? | ||
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Canada782 Posts
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GiftPflanZe
Germany623 Posts
On June 27 2011 13:22 LesPhoques wrote: Something happened for sure. I have been "Favored" against 3 opponents now and all of them are 1500-1700 Masters and I was even with 1400 point dude. Interesting. Maybe the 1400 guy had a good winratio or a big winning streak?MMR says if someone is favored or not,not the points. | ||
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Powerforged2
Canada48 Posts
Either my opponent or I has been favored, which never really happens like someone said earlier, but when I am favored I own the guy hard, when i'm not I get owned hard.. I haven't had a even match over my last 8-9 matches and have had a 50/50 ratio. Win when i'm favored lose when i'm not. | ||
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lazydino
Canada331 Posts
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epikAnglory
United States1120 Posts
On June 24 2011 10:55 nitdkim wrote: NA is currently bugged. TL should have like a newsfeed bar on top that rotates issues like these that people will constantly post about :o I agree, I do not enjoy seeing a thread every time there is something patching or when there is a bug/maintenance. | ||
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United States368 Posts
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KiF1rE
United States964 Posts
On June 27 2011 13:55 kawaiiryuko wrote: How do we know that MMR is working? I mean, it is secret and hidden and I know people always say "Hey, ladder is locked/broken but MMR is still updating!" except.... how do we know that it is?? blizzard claims it is..... but meh, blizzard brings zero proof that mmr is actually working as we cant see it. | ||
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-KarakStarcraft-
United States258 Posts
On June 27 2011 13:53 iTzAnglory wrote: I agree, I do not enjoy seeing a thread every time there is something patching or when there is a bug/maintenance. I do because then I know about it, can read about it and can see if others are having similar problems AND when it's fixed... | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On June 27 2011 13:55 kawaiiryuko wrote: How do we know that MMR is working? I mean, it is secret and hidden and I know people always say "Hey, ladder is locked/broken but MMR is still updating!" except.... how do we know that it is?? When this happened the other day, there was a Blizzard statement that MMR was continuing to update even though points were not. It's worth noting, by the way, that points not updating won't have a long-term effect on the accuracy of one's ladder standing. If an active player's MMR increases enormously while this is going on, when the points do update again, they'll see a number of games where their opponent is listed as "favored" or "slightly favored," and they'll get more points for a win than for a loss until they are back in the right spot. | ||
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Australia95 Posts
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United States1492 Posts
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United States2829 Posts
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United States1386 Posts
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United States777 Posts
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United States3668 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12240 Posts
On June 27 2011 14:56 KillerPlague wrote: guess its more team games tonight :/ I just played some 2v2 and it's happening there too =( | ||
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Australia50 Posts
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Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
On June 24 2011 10:55 nitdkim wrote: NA is currently bugged. TL should have like a newsfeed bar on top that rotates issues like these that people will constantly post about :o That's actually a really cool idea. A sort of news banner for general E-sports/SC related news that people may be interested in. | ||
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CecilSunkure
United States2829 Posts
On June 27 2011 14:34 CecilSunkure wrote: Time to mess around on ladder again.. Probe rush? Will it work!? Yes! In PvP and PvZ it will work! You need a proxy gate for both to work however, and you need to attack with all your probes when you have 200 minerals and chrono out 2 zealots from the gateway. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On June 27 2011 15:30 CecilSunkure wrote: Yes! In PvP and PvZ it will work! You need a proxy gate for both to work however, and you need to attack with all your probes when you have 200 minerals and chrono out 2 zealots from the gateway. .. CEEEEEEECIILLLLLLLLLLLL (rants angrily) Im going to offrace just to do it :3 | ||
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AmericanUmlaut
Germany2590 Posts
On June 27 2011 15:30 CecilSunkure wrote: Yes! In PvP and PvZ it will work! You need a proxy gate for both to work however, and you need to attack with all your probes when you have 200 minerals and chrono out 2 zealots from the gateway. Cecil! After all the work you've done for the community, why would you post this information? This is, like, incitement to asshattery. | ||
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
On June 27 2011 15:59 AmericanUmlaut wrote: Cecil! After all the work you've done for the community, why would you post this information? This is, like, incitement to asshattery. Ugh that actually sounds viable. fml if i lose to this. | ||
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United States261 Posts
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Valestrum
United States246 Posts
On June 27 2011 16:01 guitarizt wrote: Ugh that actually sounds viable. fml if i lose to this. Someone actually tried something similar to lose on me today (in diamond league), they didn't probe rush completely though, they had about half their probes and then they tried to throw down 2 gateways in my main and pump out zealots and cannons haha.. Luckily I spotted it just in time and was able to fend it off with a few cannons of my own and then they just quit, I could see if you brought all your probes though and did it how it could work. | ||
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Australia1237 Posts
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United States280 Posts
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jnkw
Canada347 Posts
On June 27 2011 17:14 Bullet wrote: so can you lose points too? I was favored vs two 1450-1500 zergs, and im only 1350ish masters. I don't understand. -.- MMR =/= points. | ||
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United States361 Posts
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
On June 27 2011 17:14 Bullet wrote: so can you lose points too? I was favored vs two 1450-1500 zergs, and im only 1350ish masters. I don't understand. -.- It's a bug, happened to me when the first no points incident (about 3 days ago) occurred. | ||
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New Zealand84 Posts
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Raambo11
United States828 Posts
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Drowsy
United States4876 Posts
On June 24 2011 11:00 TheBrofessor wrote: So is it not just me who has nothing at all loading and one person is favored every match? I lost to a guy I was "favored" against in a pvt against 1 base marine/tank/banshee after my nexus failed to cancel when my hotkeys got changed. He was actually higher rated than me on the ladder and I was like pissed, then I realized ladder was broken currently and I was totally chill since I probably wasn't actually favored. | ||
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Canada695 Posts
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Firesilver
United Kingdom1190 Posts
On June 27 2011 17:59 Drowsy wrote: I lost to a guy I was "favored" against in a pvt against 1 base marine/tank/banshee after my nexus failed to cancel when my hotkeys got changed. He was actually higher rated than me on the ladder and I was like pissed, then I realized ladder was broken currently and I was totally chill since I probably wasn't actually favored. You lucky man | ||
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Canada347 Posts
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MonkSEA
Australia1227 Posts
I won both so I'm not complaining | ||
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SC2Chaos
United States36 Posts
On June 27 2011 18:10 jnkw wrote: Judging from the posts in this thread, I think some people are forgetting that MMR is still counting. I'm a Plat player and beat three diamonds and then a Master's about 20 minutes ago. I think MMR is messed up too.\ The Master's player quit in the first 5 seconds*** | ||
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Xolo
Canada107 Posts
ITS GENIOUS! | ||
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Kamikiri
United States1319 Posts
On June 27 2011 18:26 Xolo wrote: So obviously the best option right now is to tank your MMR hardcore without it effecting your points, then after its fixed you can farm 1 point wins from bronze players for a while. ITS GENIOUS! If you tank your MMR to far im pretty sure you can still get demoted. | ||
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United States473 Posts
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Denmark4618 Posts
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United States1394 Posts
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MilesTeg
France1271 Posts
I won 16 straight games and the game would still seemingly match me with the same kind of opponent. Won most of the last 50 (over 75%); same thing. Not whining, just saying that MMR is usually a lot more reactive so IMO there is a problem there too. | ||
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Canada298 Posts
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United States2821 Posts
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EmilA
Denmark4618 Posts
On June 27 2011 19:25 Huragius wrote: And I was going to ladder hard today... You're from lithuania.. | ||
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Canada2620 Posts
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Huragius
Lithuania1506 Posts
So the problem is only in NA server ? ^_^ *Happy Panda | ||
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United States1231 Posts
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Huragius
Lithuania1506 Posts
On June 27 2011 19:55 Mulu wrote: I just beat a Terran and was so happy.. but got no points. Man, this made me laugh :D Does this mean I'm a bad person ? :/ | ||
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Sweden319 Posts
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Philippines446 Posts
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New Zealand346 Posts
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two.watup
United States371 Posts
One one hand, you can ladder all you want and not lose points. You can run whatever you want, offrace etc, have fun with it. On the other hand, it still affects your MMR, so if you're trying to get promoted, now might be a time to grind some games out against people who don't really care (see first point). I was just about to ladder before I saw that the points are locked, I don't know if I'll ladder anymore, and I don't really know why. | ||
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whaty0uwant
New Zealand346 Posts
On June 27 2011 21:29 two.watup wrote: Current situation is a double edged sword. One one hand, you can ladder all you want and not lose points. You can run whatever you want, offrace etc, have fun with it. On the other hand, it still affects your MMR, so if you're trying to get promoted, now might be a time to grind some games out against people who don't really care (see first point). I was just about to ladder before I saw that the points are locked, I don't know if I'll ladder anymore, and I don't really know why. Wait, so you still have the potential to get promoted even though points are locked? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm tempting, but I like earning points xD | ||
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DarKcS
Australia1237 Posts
Sorry, eve made me think of this -_- | ||
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two.watup
United States371 Posts
On June 27 2011 21:31 whaty0uwant wrote: Wait, so you still have the potential to get promoted even though points are locked? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm tempting, but I like earning points xD Not necessarily. Your MMR can be changed, so you can get within 1 game of promotion, even if promotion itself is locked. On June 27 2011 21:34 DarKcS wrote: If you like earning points, would you buy $80 sunglasses in the Blizzard store? They'd only appear on Jim Raynor. In Singleplayer. Sorry, eve made me think of this -_- Don't see how this has anything to do with ladder points. | ||
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StayFrosty
Canada743 Posts
On June 27 2011 20:39 DocNemesis wrote: There is a bright side to all this, least for me: I can dick around while laddering and I won't get punished by losing points. XD You still lose points when you lose a game. You just don't gain any when you win. BS I know. | ||
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Australia1237 Posts
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United States1015 Posts
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United Kingdom77 Posts
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japro
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On June 27 2011 20:39 DocNemesis wrote: There is a bright side to all this, least for me: I can dick around while laddering and I won't get punished by losing points. XD Won't points be applied retroactively when they fix the issue? I think I remember cases where I got/lost points with a considerable delay... | ||
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Crashburn
United States476 Posts
On June 27 2011 23:25 japro wrote: Won't points be applied retroactively when they fix the issue? I think I remember cases where I got/lost points with a considerable delay... When this issue was "resolved" a couple days ago, Blues on the SC2 forums said points wouldn't be applied retroactively. Pretty sure they won't this time either. | ||
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oDieN[Siege]
United States2905 Posts
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Canada388 Posts
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ODKStevez
Ireland1225 Posts
On June 24 2011 10:55 travis wrote: It's too hard to make it so the ladder maintains basic functionality. Do you guys have any idea of the logistics of maintaining hundreds of possible achievements per user? It is not hard at all with Blizzards experience and money. It's pure laziness tbh. | ||
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ensign_lee
United States1178 Posts
I was so looking forward to consequence free ladder too...doh. :D | ||
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LesPhoques
Canada782 Posts
On June 27 2011 13:32 GiftPflanZe wrote: Maybe the 1400 guy had a good winratio or a big winning streak?MMR says if someone is favored or not,not the points. Nope he didn't. He was fairly bad and it was an easy win for me. | ||
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Cofo
United States1388 Posts
We're happy to report that ladder games should now be correctly awarding points for both wins and losses. To ensure the ongoing stability of our ladder service, we're going to continue to monitor all ladder games, and we encourage you to post any additional issues you may experience while playing in this thread. Please note that ladder games played last evening while this issue was occurring should continue to affect your matchmaking rating; however, no point adjustments will be made retroactively. Thank you for your patience! ... POSTED 2 DAYS AGO. | ||
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United States5 Posts
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Canada185 Posts
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United States71 Posts
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Canada725 Posts
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United States202 Posts
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Canada138 Posts
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stevarius
United States1394 Posts
Troll account, but here's proof: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WrkKt.png) | ||
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Sif_
Brazil3106 Posts
the 'favored' problem is already fixed as it seems. | ||
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ZeromuS
Canada13393 Posts
On June 28 2011 02:31 stevarius wrote: Just got points. GO GO GO! Troll account, but here's proof: Pshy bronzey j/k keep up the good work and woohoo points are back my hours on sc2 feel more justified now, if only I could get some banana stickers while I'm at laddering too | ||
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stevarius
United States1394 Posts
On June 28 2011 02:55 ZeromuS wrote: Pshy bronzey j/k keep up the good work and woohoo points are back my hours on sc2 feel more justified now, if only I could get some banana stickers while I'm at laddering too 29 wins in a row. | ||
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United States221 Posts
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Canada725 Posts
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Canada719 Posts
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Japan2283 Posts
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Wi)nD
Canada719 Posts
On June 28 2011 10:52 Dr.DoCToR wrote: Just won a game and didn't get points. Blizzard is amazing it only happnes wen u win i never get lucky nd have a loss not count | ||
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Singapore316 Posts
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Canada22 Posts
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Canada719 Posts
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United Arab Emirates245 Posts
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
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Mazer
Canada1086 Posts
Fucking Iccup had this shit worked out better. What garbage. | ||
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United States170 Posts
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Canada161 Posts
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eNtitY~
United States1293 Posts
On June 28 2011 11:25 Goldfish wrote: Has anyone been promoted after receiving 0 points? Is MMR stuck too or just points? Blizz said MMR isn't affected. | ||
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United States4876 Posts
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UmiNotsuki
United States633 Posts
On June 28 2011 11:19 pig-dude wrote: A decent test seems to be if your profile page is not visitable on the battle.net website. I'm sure this is old news, but I've never been so happy to recieve an error message in my life :D ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kVLrl.png) | ||
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stimtokolos
Australia77 Posts
On June 28 2011 11:24 ZealotKiller wrote: Well, at least this bug shows that Blizzard was right all along, people DO care about their number of points and getting higher in their respective ladder, and not only about MMR and skill which defines who is best. It would be cool if MMR was visible. People might care more then. | ||
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Mazer
Canada1086 Posts
On June 28 2011 11:24 ZealotKiller wrote: Well, at least this bug shows that Blizzard was right all along, people DO care about their number of points and getting higher in their respective ladder, and not only about MMR and skill which defines who is best. Ahh well that's a relief. I'm totally more about MMR. | ||
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envisioN .
United States552 Posts
Has anyone been promoted since the ladder started acting up? | ||
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United States258 Posts
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sm0b
United States157 Posts
On June 28 2011 11:52 Karak wrote: im like #1 d in my division, have been for a while and have been playing mostly 1200 point masters players for a week or two. i dunno if it's broken or if i just played too many games terribly before. I played and beat Masters 1200 or so people for a few weeks until I got promoted, it might not be because of a possible ladder lock. A friend of mine got promoted to diamond last night or the night before. | ||
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Canada719 Posts
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envisioN .
United States552 Posts
On June 28 2011 12:00 Wi)nD wrote: so when this is all going on MMR is unaffected? just there might b a semi lock on promotions? Blizzard said that MMR is still updating. The points are not. Please read previous comments because I believe this is at least the 3rd or 4th time this has been asked. We're unsure if promotions are still happening. | ||
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ribboo
Sweden1842 Posts
On June 28 2011 11:51 envisioN . wrote: I think promotion/demotion may be broken as well because i've been top 5 plat for 2 weeks now and beating top 8 diamond and haven't been promoted. Has anyone been promoted since the ladder started acting up? it was locked for a while, i got promoted when it unlocked like 1-2v ago. top 5 plat and top 8 diamond really says nothing. ranks don't mean anything at all. ladder could be locked tho, i dont know. | ||
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Officedrone
Canada70 Posts
On June 28 2011 11:25 Goldfish wrote: Has anyone been promoted after receiving 0 points? Is MMR stuck too or just points? You guys know that, regardless of what happens during ladder buggy-ness, they'll always say MMR isn't affected. Do you know why? 1) If they admitted that points, promotions, and MMR were all affected, people would just stop playing the ladder en-masse. Not only does it look bad, but it would cause major problems with the match-making system giving a bad experience to potential new players or might cause existing players to not recommend it to friends. 2) We have no way of verifying. Just like when the ladder was locked last time after they supposedly "fixed" it, so many people just assume what Blizzard is saying is correct and honest. They're going to protect their business image first every time. | ||
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UmiNotsuki
United States633 Posts
On June 28 2011 12:04 Officedrone wrote: You guys know that, regardless of what happens during ladder buggy-ness, they'll always say MMR isn't effected. Do you know why? 1) If points, promotions, and MMR were all effected, people would just stop playing the ladder en-masse. Not only does it look bad, but it would cause major problems with the match-making system giving a bad experience to potential new players or might cause existing players to not recommend it to friends. 2) We have no way of verifying. Just like when the ladder was locked last time after they supposedly "fixed" it, so many people just assume what Blizzard is saying is correct and honest. Sad but true. If only Blizzard understood that if the community was appeased they'd make more money than they ever could by ruining all their good games with crappy support. | ||
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United States45 Posts
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Officedrone
Canada70 Posts
There are multiple reports of placement matches not putting people in leagues after playing their 5 matches. As far as we know, MMR gained/lost by playing these determines placement. | ||
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Canada2436 Posts
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UmiNotsuki
United States633 Posts
On June 28 2011 12:10 Officedrone wrote: More proof that MMR is most likely effected: There are multiple reports of placement matches not putting people in leagues after playing their 5 matches. As far as we know, MMR gained/lost by playing these determines placement. Also true, but good god, man, it's "affected." Sorry, hurts to look at it spelled wrong because I'm stupid by most standards The effect of which directly affects my own self image!I see what I did there. | ||
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Officedrone
Canada70 Posts
On June 28 2011 12:13 UmiNotsuki wrote: Also true, but good god, man, it's "affected." Sorry, hurts to look at it spelled wrong because I'm stupid by most standards The effect of which directly affects my own self image!I see what I did there. Fixed. Thanks =) | ||
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Goldfish
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On June 28 2011 12:10 Officedrone wrote: More proof that MMR is most likely affected: There are multiple reports of placement matches not putting people in leagues after playing their 5 matches. As far as we know, MMR gained/lost by playing these determines placement. Nice job .So it seems MMR is affected then. Time to worker rush every game!!!!..... But I'd rather not . | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12240 Posts
On June 28 2011 12:04 Officedrone wrote: You guys know that, regardless of what happens during ladder buggy-ness, they'll always say MMR isn't affected. Do you know why? 1) If points, promotions, and MMR were all affected, people would just stop playing the ladder en-masse. Not only does it look bad, but it would cause major problems with the match-making system giving a bad experience to potential new players or might cause existing players to not recommend it to friends. 2) We have no way of verifying. Just like when the ladder was locked last time after they supposedly "fixed" it, so many people just assume what Blizzard is saying is correct and honest. Of course MMR is working because people are reporting they're getting promoted during the point bug. Some skepticism is appreciated but the Bnet forums (as well as TL to a lesser extent) practically erupt when something like this happens, and people are generally eager to find out what exactly is broken and what still works. I saw no less than 5 threads on the Bnet forums full of "are promotions working?" "I haven't been promoted I played X games" "I got promoted yesterday and today" "I got promoted just a few hours ago so I guess it works" etc etc etc. | ||
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Canada431 Posts
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Officedrone
Canada70 Posts
To me it feels like the same as the last "stealth ladder lock". If some people are being promoted and some not, then something is wrong with the MMR/promotion system. How many pages/threads did the official forums and this site finally have on it before you finally got Blizz to acknowledge there was an issue last time? (and they didn't even publicly admit it....the only way we knew for sure was because you told us) | ||
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Battousai13
United States638 Posts
On June 28 2011 12:21 Excalibur_Z wrote: Of course MMR is working because people are reporting they're getting promoted during the point bug. Some skepticism is appreciated but the Bnet forums (as well as TL to a lesser extent) practically erupt when something like this happens, and people are generally eager to find out what exactly is broken and what still works. I saw no less than 5 threads on the Bnet forums full of "are promotions working?" "I haven't been promoted I played X games" "I got promoted yesterday and today" "I got promoted just a few hours ago so I guess it works" etc etc etc. How would you explain MMR unaffected if completing placement matches does not put you into a league? I actually just did placement matches with a few friends of mine for 3v3 last night, we're still not ranked after playing tonight. No points gained from our wins today either. | ||
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The.Doctor
Canada333 Posts
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Draconicfire
Canada2562 Posts
Me and my friend did 2vs2 placements the day this started and we got placed. | ||
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United States125 Posts
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Loes
Canada115 Posts
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Cartel
Canada255 Posts
On June 28 2011 11:37 Mazer wrote: Ahh well that's a relief. I'm totally more about MMR. No blizzard is wrong. People care about their points only because points are supposed to reflect your mmr. But it doesnt. But pple still see points because its the 'only' visual, supposedly tangible thing that we can see and hope that it can reflect our true skill. My question is, with mmr working, and points not working, isnt playing ladder now and winning a bad thing? getting higher in mmr, which means harder opponents down the road that will make you lose points later on. Meanwhile you remain same point level now. So infact logging online now and dropping games on purpose makes sense. | ||
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Mazer
Canada1086 Posts
On June 28 2011 12:43 Cartel wrote: No blizzard is wrong. People care about their points only because points are supposed to reflect your mmr. But it doesnt. But pple still see points because its the 'only' visual, supposedly tangible thing that we can see and hope that it can reflect our true skill. My question is, with mmr working, and points not working, isnt playing ladder now and winning a bad thing? getting higher in mmr, which means harder opponents down the road that will make you lose points later on. Meanwhile you remain same point level now. So infact logging online now and dropping games on purpose makes sense. Maybe... But I'm pushing to get back into masters and I would rather have my W/L be good than have more points. | ||
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UmiNotsuki
United States633 Posts
Exhibit A: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tUYzk.png) I am not RustedScythe, but I recently met him on the ladder. I haven't earned any ladder points for the past two days. He played a game "4 hours ago" on the ladder and lost points, but the next game, on Tal'Darim Altar, he beat me and was awarded nothing. Ever since, he continues to earn nor lose any points. Thoughts? | ||
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striderxxx
Canada443 Posts
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Suffo
United States936 Posts
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Kazragore
United States369 Posts
On June 28 2011 12:42 Loes wrote: Tasteless hacked the ladder and is taking all of our ladder points D: Goddamn you Tasteless!! ^ ^ On June 28 2011 12:49 UmiNotsuki wrote: I think it's worth noting that this problem seems inconsistent and in some ways like a virus (no, not a computer virus, it's just a metaphor.) Exhibit A: + Show Spoiler + I am not RustedScythe, but I recently met him on the ladder. I haven't earned any ladder points for the past two days. He played a game "4 hours ago" on the ladder and lost points, but the next game, on Tal'Darim Altar, he beat me and was awarded nothing. Ever since, he continues to earn nor lose any points. Thoughts? Yup same with me. Ever since the 1's ladder got messed up I've just been playing team games (which I learned can actually be fun sometimes. . . when you have halfway decent allies). Played some 1's to see if it was working again, and it was! Buuuut, then it wasn't : / ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/CSsug.jpg) | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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Eschaton
United States1245 Posts
This has been going on for over 24 hours now... It's About Time? | ||
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Onlinejaguar
Australia2823 Posts
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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Skrillex90
13 Posts
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
On June 28 2011 13:23 Skrillex90 wrote: Dude guys, who cares about the points just fucken play , why are you guys so caught up with ladder and the point system... Blizzard is always challenging us to get better anyway, If you are scared of playing and losing points then why play at all? Play for the experience Not the Title or points. Its all about striving for better. Ladder is just basically ranked practicing, Unless your taking this system seriously and your a Pro gamer, then you dont really have room to talk Ya but tracking progress is part of human nature. ^^ | ||
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LovE-
United States1963 Posts
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Mortal
2943 Posts
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Onlinejaguar
Australia2823 Posts
On June 28 2011 13:23 Skrillex90 wrote: Dude guys, who cares about the points just fucken play , why are you guys so caught up with ladder and the point system... Blizzard is always challenging us to get better anyway, If you are scared of playing and losing points then why play at all? Play for the experience Not the Title or points. Its all about striving for better. Ladder is just basically ranked practicing, Unless your taking this system seriously and your a Pro gamer, then you dont really have room to talk This is just like saying playing any game that has a progress system is worthless. I agree that ladder ranking does not prove you are good but people like to use it to track progress for enjoyment. | ||
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Petrina
United States178 Posts
On June 28 2011 13:07 Eschaton wrote: Has anyone actually tested whether losing/winning games genuinely affects your MMR? Has anyone been demoted? Is anyone now facing gold league-ers? This has been going on for over 24 hours now... It's About Time? I got promoted 2 days ago after the first period when the ladder points were not given. However I did get promoted during the brief period of time (of 2 days) when ladder points were given or taken. Now it is broken again. My diamond league was slowly filled up with players during the last 2 days. And I am about 95% sure that the last people to join the newly formed diamond league joined it during the time when no points were awarded. (League Nova Pepper, you can check). So maybe we can say that MMR is still being affected. **shrugs** | ||
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
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Skrillex90
13 Posts
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
On June 28 2011 13:41 Skrillex90 wrote: well regardless, dont let this situation discourge you, blizzard will fix it, your points will be fixed but this shouldnt cause players to be inactive from ladder, if you keep playing it may not show now but the points will be updated when blizzard is done. They have 4 other games to worry about here come on And a billion dollars to fix a "seemingly" simple problem. | ||
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
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Yung
United States727 Posts
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SDream
Brazil896 Posts
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Tegin
United States840 Posts
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sick_transit
United States195 Posts
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
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SwordfishConspiracy
United States146 Posts
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andaylin
United States10830 Posts
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birdkicker
United States752 Posts
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mewbert
United States291 Posts
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xlava
United States676 Posts
Not too disappointed though, mmr still changes even though we get no points. | ||
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ExO_
United States2316 Posts
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
On June 28 2011 14:46 SwordfishConspiracy wrote: A few days ago Blizzard support said on the forums that even though people aren't being awarded points, the MMR is still being affected. So even though you're not stealing any nerd's ladder points (or having them stolen from you by Tasteless), if you do well your ranking will still improve. ... and if you do poorly, you're MMR will be reduced ... Hee hee chuckle chuckle. | ||
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Prevolved
United States573 Posts
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Pasado
United States142 Posts
On June 28 2011 12:04 Officedrone wrote: You guys know that, regardless of what happens during ladder buggy-ness, they'll always say MMR isn't affected. Do you know why? 1) If points, promotions, and MMR were all affected, people would just stop playing the ladder en-masse. Not only does it look bad, but it would cause major problems with the match-making system giving a bad experience to potential new players or might cause existing players to not recommend it to friends. 2) We have no way of verifying. Just like when the ladder was locked last time after they supposedly "fixed" it, so many people just assume what Blizzard is saying is correct and honest. I agree with this guy. | ||
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
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Valestrum
United States246 Posts
I agree also, mind = blown. | ||
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The.Doctor
Canada333 Posts
Surely 1 player out of the thousands on TL was due for a promotion (or demotion). | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Devolved
United States2753 Posts
I tanked a bunch of games in a row last when it wasn't giving points to see if MMR was affected. All of my previous opponents for the last 20+ games were all highish Diamond. After tanking around 20-25 games I was being matched up vs. Platinum and even some Gold. In conclusion, MMR still seemed to be working properly, but I don't know about promotions/demotions. Have they fixed the points problem yet? | ||
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Imalengrat
Australia365 Posts
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Carush
United States356 Posts
On June 28 2011 18:50 The.Doctor wrote: Okay then mass TL poll: Has anyone ever gotten promoted after winning a game and receiving 0 pts? Surely 1 player out of the thousands on TL was due for a promotion (or demotion). on my new account i was promoted to masters without getting any points and i'm winning most of my games and i feel i'm getting harder and harder opponents so i think mmr is still working http://www.sc2ranks.com/us/2900211/Crush | ||
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awol
Australia79 Posts
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NeXiLe
Canada262 Posts
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
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Officedrone
Canada70 Posts
Personally, I'm just going to wait it out until we get an official confirmation that everything is fixed. | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On June 28 2011 19:24 Officedrone wrote: Nice to see some evidence, but the simple fact is we just don't know for sure that promotions and MMR are working properly for everyone. Why would they lie about this? I haven't seen any instances where they deliberately misrepresented bad news. Often, they announce stuff that many people don't even notice. | ||
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Executor1
1353 Posts
Wierd though sounds like this was a problem a couple of days ago, but i was definitely getting points earlier today strange. | ||
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Carush
United States356 Posts
On June 28 2011 19:24 Officedrone wrote: Nice to see some evidence, but the simple fact is we just don't know for sure that promotions and MMR are working properly for everyone. Personally, I'm just going to wait it out until we get an official confirmation that everything is fixed. blizzard put out a message saying that mmr was still working... | ||
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Officedrone
Canada70 Posts
On June 28 2011 19:28 Lysenko wrote: Why would they lie about this? I haven't seen any instances where they deliberately misrepresented bad news. Often, they announce stuff that many people don't even notice. I'll point you to the "stealth lock" earlier this month that was causing a lot of people to not be promoted. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=233783 No official word was ever given. Only way we knew about it was because Excal consulted the powers that be and got back to us. They then only replied to a random thread on the EU forum saying it was fixed. They have a business to protect....I'm sure they don't like to admit their inability to maintain a relatively simple ladder system given how much money and expertise they have. | ||
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alepov
Netherlands1132 Posts
On June 28 2011 17:55 guitarizt wrote: idk weren't there people saying they were in plat playing master level people? so? that's completely possible. you get promoted by moving average not by absolute difference between your league and your mmr. | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On June 28 2011 19:36 Officedrone wrote: No official word was ever given. Only way we knew about it was because Excal consulted the powers that be and got back to us. They then only replied to a random thread on the EU forum saying it was fixed. They often don't respond on certain issues, but they've never, to my knowledge, intentionally stated something false. Totally different thing. | ||
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
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Shaetan
United States1175 Posts
On June 28 2011 19:10 Devolved wrote: I tanked a bunch of games in a row last when it wasn't giving points to see if MMR was affected. All of my previous opponents for the last 20+ games were all highish Diamond. After tanking around 20-25 games I was being matched up vs. Platinum and even some Gold. In conclusion, MMR still seemed to be working properly, but I don't know about promotions/demotions. Have they fixed the points problem yet? Shoulda won a bunch of games in a row instead :-p now you have a long path in ahead of you! | ||
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guitarizt
United States1492 Posts
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whaty0uwant
New Zealand346 Posts
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stevarius
United States1394 Posts
On June 28 2011 22:35 whaty0uwant wrote: The US ladder is currently down for me :/ I'm staring at it working right now. | ||
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LaiShin
Australia978 Posts
On June 28 2011 22:35 whaty0uwant wrote: The US ladder is currently down for me :/ same here. Can't even access b.net's account page. | ||
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Bro_Stone
United States510 Posts
I just got back to the US and can't even play sc2. And my CN account is out of money, darn... | ||
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Valestrum
United States246 Posts
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bri9and
United States246 Posts
On June 28 2011 22:46 LaiShin wrote: same here. Can't even access b.net's account page. I'm quoting you but there are plenty others with this same message.. Battle.net is down! Guess what? It's tuesday! and guess what happens, every tuesday without fail.. Battle.net maintenance! As far as the US ladder not counting points, its been doing that for ~24 hours.. rest assured that after this maintenance that issue will be resolved.. and remember, next tuesday, battle.net will be down again.. be not alarmed. | ||
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kellymilkies
Singapore1393 Posts
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DarKcS
Australia1237 Posts
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stevarius
United States1394 Posts
On June 28 2011 22:55 bri9and wrote: I'm quoting you but there are plenty others with this same message.. Battle.net is down! Guess what? It's tuesday! and guess what happens, every tuesday without fail.. Battle.net maintenance! As far as the US ladder not counting points, its been doing that for ~24 hours.. rest assured that after this maintenance that issue will be resolved.. and remember, next tuesday, battle.net will be down again.. be not alarmed. I'm logged into NA and laddering as we speak getting points. I think anyone who is having problems was trying to login after I luckily got in. | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12240 Posts
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