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DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
July 23 2011 16:28 GMT
#2241
Isn't Naniwa already in Korea? He said during TL attack that he was going on on July 15th... Not sure if his plans have changed or not but he should be there already... I think naniwa will be good and ready for GSTL. I fully expect him to get 1-2 kills in the first week.

So what's the deal with the PuMa situation now? Ideally I'd like to take him off my main and then add him to my anti-team.

I can't believe Wolf scored points for my anti-team rofl. Oh well, my NesTea experiment paid off. Only got 2 points all season. Now I can trade him for a much worse player.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
July 23 2011 16:42 GMT
#2242
On July 23 2011 22:53 mrbamboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 21:22 zev318 wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:40 Primadog wrote:
On July 23 2011 02:01 Kazeyonoma wrote:
YAH BEST PICKUP OF QXC EVER. now to trade off all fxo players >.< sigh can't even get anyone for sheth now =(



I have bad news for you. TradeValue = 0 for all players with GamesLeft = 0.


this might be the dumbest rule ever


How?? The trade value isn't some number that compares how good a player is. It's a value that tries to capture a player's potential to earn fantasy points. If you have zero games left to play, you have zero potential to gain any more points, so you are worth nothing.


Although I agree that its an intellegent rule (that being said ffuuuu I have Oz still on my team) but previously FXO (team) was worth negative points and I couldn't trade them away. Now, the only week they secured a positive amount of points, I'm FORCED to keep them because they're done. Also shouldn't it be technically possible that if a team gets enough losses (I think slayers and fou have a few) that they would be worth negative points as well and have the ability to do the FXO --> x trade.

Also random question to who ever might know, if Oz/qxc/whoever else is staying in Korea plays for fou do the people who have them on their team get points?
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 16:52:33
July 23 2011 16:52 GMT
#2243
But you had to have realized there was a good chance FXO goes into the negatives. They started off worth 0 points.. so if they just lost by 4-1 or 4-0 they would go into the negatives. It was obvious from the get go that this was a very real possibility. That's the price you pay for picking a team that had 0 trade value to begin with.

Although I do wonder how the trade situation is going to work for FXO now. Is there trade value now 0 because they have 0 games left? If that's the case... if another team drops below 0, can you make a trade? IMO FXO should be untradeable now... but that might not be how this situation works out.
mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
July 23 2011 19:33 GMT
#2244
On July 24 2011 01:52 DoomsVille wrote:
But you had to have realized there was a good chance FXO goes into the negatives. They started off worth 0 points.. so if they just lost by 4-1 or 4-0 they would go into the negatives. It was obvious from the get go that this was a very real possibility. That's the price you pay for picking a team that had 0 trade value to begin with.

Although I do wonder how the trade situation is going to work for FXO now. Is there trade value now 0 because they have 0 games left? If that's the case... if another team drops below 0, can you make a trade? IMO FXO should be untradeable now... but that might not be how this situation works out.


I don't know what the system does but you should be able to trade 0 for negative after 0 games left. Because the trade value is a measure for potential points. Potential no points is higher than potential negative points, you can always trade high to low.
mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
July 23 2011 19:36 GMT
#2245
On July 24 2011 01:28 DoomsVille wrote:
Isn't Naniwa already in Korea? He said during TL attack that he was going on on July 15th... Not sure if his plans have changed or not but he should be there already... I think naniwa will be good and ready for GSTL. I fully expect him to get 1-2 kills in the first week.

So what's the deal with the PuMa situation now? Ideally I'd like to take him off my main and then add him to my anti-team.

I can't believe Wolf scored points for my anti-team rofl. Oh well, my NesTea experiment paid off. Only got 2 points all season. Now I can trade him for a much worse player.


Naniwa is gonna be at MLG next weekend, so I don't think so. Doubt they'd fly him back and forth so quickly
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
July 23 2011 22:00 GMT
#2246
I know... I found that odd too.. but he specifically said july 15th he's heading over (and I'm sure he realized MLG was 2 weeks after...)

Gah I really hope that didn't change. Ah you're probably right though. If he was in korea I'm sure we would have heard some news or seen him watching the GSL or something.
Mangix
Profile Joined June 2011
United States115 Posts
July 23 2011 23:39 GMT
#2247
I gained a lot of points this week. Hmm about Naniwa, who should i trade him off my antiteam for?
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
July 24 2011 00:15 GMT
#2248
ROFL ... I would be tied for 90th place right now if I didn't trade Naniwa of my anti team to early -.-

I was afraid of being stuck with having to trade him for someone REALLY strong so I made the decision when it was between TOP and Nada. I went against my gut and though Nada would play less than TOP and it really bit me in the ass -.-

I ended up not being able to trade for Naniwa anyway. Only person with enough points is DRG and I am not trading him for Naniwa. O well

Thinking of trading SLAYERS for IM right now though since I think they will only go up in value from this point on.
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
CNSnow
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Greece67 Posts
July 24 2011 11:31 GMT
#2249
Why trading is closed these three days??? When will be open? I want to take QXC !!!!
theBOOCH
Profile Joined November 2010
United States832 Posts
July 24 2011 11:52 GMT
#2250
Yeah, shouldn't trading be open? Aslo, what's the status of FXO replacing fOu? Will any of the foreign players be staying/able to play?
If all you're offering is Dos Equis, I will stay thirsty thank you very much.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
July 24 2011 15:56 GMT
#2251
Maybe they're trying to decide what to do about the PuMa situation?

Either way, not a big deal. There is no GSTL this week so we have quite a bit of time before they need to turn it back on.
mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
July 24 2011 17:10 GMT
#2252
Rosters gets updated after week five. I imagine they'd want to see the roster updates and make those changes before trades open again.
theBOOCH
Profile Joined November 2010
United States832 Posts
July 25 2011 02:34 GMT
#2253
Thanks mrbamboo. I didn't even realize there was a break this week. I forgot about up/downs, and I didn't even know about redoing the rosters (which will obviously change everything).
If all you're offering is Dos Equis, I will stay thirsty thank you very much.
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
July 25 2011 05:12 GMT
#2254
Polt is worst points spent ever Cant believe he never gets to play...
mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
July 25 2011 15:46 GMT
#2255
I wonder how worth it is it to get Nestea or Losira. code S finals will be over before the next GSTL round, so there's no conflict of them practicing for other tournaments. After that embarrassing loss to qxc would IM bring out the big guns to make sure they get to the play offs?
Icectar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States99 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 17:33:44
July 25 2011 17:33 GMT
#2256
lol, forgot that the GSTL had a break this week, was getting freaked out that it wasn't open haha.
So mad at the IM coach right now, had a chance to get me 8 points from an all kill, but he gives me a stupid 0-4 -_- hope he learns.....
Tradewise, I am considering:

MMA -> Fenix or aLive
MMA has barely been played and the only time he did, he lost. Fenix is on a small roster, so he's all but guranteed to play every week for F. United. aLive just because I'm looking for change lol.
+ Show Spoiler +
but again, SlayerS is probably going to be serious about getting to the playoffs, so they might bring out their ace more often.


Tassadar -> SocceR
Trade for SocceR just because he has more games to play and has a pretty good chance of getting played, thats all.

BBoongBBoong -> Nestea
This guy is my only zerg on my team, so I have to trade for another zerg. Kinda reluctant though to trade him because he's been doing so well, but IM's coach should be pulling out the big guns now after that FXO humiliation right?
+ Show Spoiler +
or he decides he's "to cool for school" and continues to play nobodies -_-


Byun -> Nestea
same reasoning as BBoongBBoong except I don't lose as much in trade value.

GuMiHo -> LosirA
virtually same reasoning except LosirA might play more, but GuMiHo is fOu's second best player.

Byun -> Happy
just traded Happy away thank god, but he'll get played more maybe? Younghwa is another option I guess.

also have sC, but idk who to trade him for

Only have two trades to make, so thoughts??

advice from people in the top 20 would be a nice benefit :D
"You can always tell someone to go to Hell tomorrow."
mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
July 26 2011 01:02 GMT
#2257
On July 26 2011 02:33 Icectar wrote:
lol, forgot that the GSTL had a break this week, was getting freaked out that it wasn't open haha.
So mad at the IM coach right now, had a chance to get me 8 points from an all kill, but he gives me a stupid 0-4 -_- hope he learns.....
Tradewise, I am considering:

MMA -> Fenix or aLive
MMA has barely been played and the only time he did, he lost. Fenix is on a small roster, so he's all but guranteed to play every week for F. United. aLive just because I'm looking for change lol.
+ Show Spoiler +
but again, SlayerS is probably going to be serious about getting to the playoffs, so they might bring out their ace more often.


Tassadar -> SocceR
Trade for SocceR just because he has more games to play and has a pretty good chance of getting played, thats all.

BBoongBBoong -> Nestea
This guy is my only zerg on my team, so I have to trade for another zerg. Kinda reluctant though to trade him because he's been doing so well, but IM's coach should be pulling out the big guns now after that FXO humiliation right?
+ Show Spoiler +
or he decides he's "to cool for school" and continues to play nobodies -_-


Byun -> Nestea
same reasoning as BBoongBBoong except I don't lose as much in trade value.

GuMiHo -> LosirA
virtually same reasoning except LosirA might play more, but GuMiHo is fOu's second best player.

Byun -> Happy
just traded Happy away thank god, but he'll get played more maybe? Younghwa is another option I guess.

also have sC, but idk who to trade him for

Only have two trades to make, so thoughts??

advice from people in the top 20 would be a nice benefit :D


MMA -> Fenix/Alive
Fenix is a tough call, while he will definitely see more play, how many games can he take off koreans?
Alive and MMA have the same number of matches left. With PuMa gone it's only Alive and Clide left as terrans. Not a bad choice. It's hard to say if MMA's slump is over, I'd personally pick Alive over MMA. There are a number of good SlayerS terrans that if MMA is still slumping he just won't get played.

Tassadar -> Soccer
this is a trade that I'm considering myself. Soccer didn't impressive me in his shot at code A. But neither did sculp or seal impress me when they first startered for NSH but then they go dominate some Squirtle/July/Bomber this week. Despite placing 2nd in code A Tassadar's play never really impressed me. Gambling on Soccer isn't a bad idea.

BboongBboong -> Nestea
BboongBboong is the only player on prime who has shown any results this gstl. Might be worth keeping. Prime has 3 rounds while IM only has 2 left. Nestea might get used as ace for IM now that they are serious, but it's really hard to guess what the IM coach is gonna do. Honestly IM as a team has so many GSL championships and high placings and winning and placing 2nd in the past GSTLs they might just not care about winning this GSTL so much. It could just be they've decided to use this as opportunities for their lesser players to get stage experience. They still have a 2-1 record so making play offs isn't that difficult as long they use Happy/Yoda/YoungHwa/Losira some more. I"d keep BboongBboong.

Byun -> Nestea
Byun + Puzzle anchors ZENEX if they want to make play offs. I'd keep Byun for the same reason above.

GuMiho -> Losira
This is a tough one. They both have 2 matches left. I'd say they have nearly identical point earning potential. Losira should see more play the next 2 series. GuMiho will definitely need to help carry fOu to play offs. IMO GuMiho has been more solid than sC at this moment. This is a coin flip trade. Personal preference.

Byun -> Happy
Byun is more likey to see play. I'd keep Byun for this one.

Trading sC? I don't know. Keep, or pick up seal or sculp
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
July 26 2011 05:00 GMT
#2258
Word of warning: you should plan ahead before making any trades.

For example, someone mentioned that Byun may be getting invited to IEM Cologne. If he does he will miss ZeNEX's last game. MKP could also miss a week. Gotta check these things out well in advance.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 16:41:55
July 26 2011 16:41 GMT
#2259
For the Fantasy Report, I meant to write

No team has negative team scores in the entire league!



sorry
Thank God and gunrun.
mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
July 26 2011 18:44 GMT
#2260
Mmm. I hope one of Thorzain/Naniwa doesn't get to play or win his match next round. He'll drop to 12-15 range depending on if F.United wins and I can trade sage for him :D. Then he'll get me many more points when he gets settled in to korean environment the weeks later!

Most likely scenario I'm thinking for now is

before round 6
Tassadar -> Soccer
FXO Korea -> F. United

before round 7
Sage -> Naniwa/Thorzain (hopefully one of them only make 0-1 point so I can make this trade, fairly likely I think)
Happy -> Seal

Don't see much more trading after that really. Every one pretty muchhas only 2 matches and I already have good picks in Puzzle/GuMiho/Younghwa/Jjakji who are probably some of the best choices for each of their teams already.

Subject to change when updated roster and starters announced though.
I might grab leenock depending on how well he does tonight in the Up/Down. Shuffling around and get Leenock + Losira instead of Younghwa/Gumiho maybe? Ride the current zerg dominance maybe with DRG/Losira/Seal/Leenock on my roster haha.
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