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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
June 16 2011 20:21 GMT
#81
it's a nice effort with good intentions (imo anyways) but i dont think ur supposed to go public with it.
u gotta be like batman. l0l
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TheResidentEvil
Profile Joined September 2010
United States991 Posts
June 16 2011 20:21 GMT
#82
I'm willing to bet Day9 is not worried about what astoorian has done. Day9 says love each other and all that jazz. You guys need to just lay off.
SolHeiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1264 Posts
June 16 2011 20:21 GMT
#83
On June 17 2011 05:17 DIjim wrote:
Show nested quote +
Contacting justin.tv support is going to fix the problem straight away. You really think they are going to let a major security break just slip by like that?

I would expect that it only takes a small amount of time to do something harmful to someone's account when you have access to it, maybe less than a minute.


That's exactly why they shut the entire website down immediately once they realized how serious it was.

You can't be 100% sure that justin.tv support is going to be able to respond to your message within a minute, but of course they will respond to it very quickly which is why astoorion only took access of the account for the time when it was vulnerable.


Still doesn't make it right to access another persons account without their permission.
Serthius
Profile Joined December 2010
Samoa226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 20:22:04
June 16 2011 20:21 GMT
#84
Idra's account was hacked. Someone changed his descriptions and name.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
June 16 2011 20:21 GMT
#85
On June 17 2011 05:17 Frankon wrote:
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On June 17 2011 05:16 R1CH wrote:
JTV has confirmed no passwords were compromised.

Thats what the companies always tell...

I'm inclined to believe them, I don't see how having account access would actually reveal any passwords. This would be like me stealing your TL cookie, sure I could login as you temporarily but I'd have no way of knowing what your password was.

On June 17 2011 05:17 Benjef wrote:
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On June 17 2011 05:16 R1CH wrote:
JTV has confirmed no passwords were compromised.

What about personal data and information though....?

Anything was was visible in the compromised account control panel (email address, ad earnings for partner accounts, etc) was likely accessible to unauthorized users. I don't think JTV displays anything more personal like address or phone number.
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Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
June 16 2011 20:22 GMT
#86
On June 17 2011 05:17 Frankon wrote:
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On June 17 2011 05:16 R1CH wrote:
JTV has confirmed no passwords were compromised.

Thats what the companies always tell...

They would be stupid to not have the passwords encypted.


Tell that to Sony....

On June 17 2011 05:20 Grimskov wrote:
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On June 17 2011 05:16 R1CH wrote:
JTV has confirmed no passwords were compromised.


Except for Day9's password. That one is being kept safe in astroorion's basement, tied up, hungry and naked in the dark - but hey its safe.


Rofl gave me a giggle ^^.



Will be nice to find out the cause of all this, whether it was a malicious attack or just a glitch in the system.
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Gryffes
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom763 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 20:22:49
June 16 2011 20:22 GMT
#87
On June 17 2011 05:10 SolHeiM wrote:
This isn't like a real world crime. This is internet. Your example is invalid.

He tried to help and even if it was unmanner/illegal, not like anything is going to happen to him, and I don't blame him doing it because he clearly had good intentions. If you had the choice to break the law, over the internet, to help Day9 not get hacked, I'm sure many of us would do it.

My example is a hypothetical situation that puts the morality of his action in question. He thinks he's in the right when he's in the wrong. When you think about it the employee stealing the money first so the robbers couldn't in his eyes isn't a crime either because he wasn't intending on keeping the money but he thought he was doing a good deed because he prevented the "real" robbers from taking it.

The reality is that he's just as wrong as anyone else trying to access day9's account.


Your example is flawed given that need for intent to permanently deprive someone of a possession is necessary for a theft conviction.

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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
June 16 2011 20:23 GMT
#88
Also please drop the Astroorion discussion. It was a well intentioned gesture that unfortunately wasn't the right thing to do, end of story.
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SolHeiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1264 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 20:23:54
June 16 2011 20:23 GMT
#89
On June 17 2011 05:20 HoMM wrote:
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On June 17 2011 05:16 SolHeiM wrote:
On June 17 2011 05:14 astroorion wrote:
I did contact Justin.TV Support as well as Day9 and a few of his chat admins. I am sorry for those who have to read the argument of those who blew the reasoning and "logic" behind my actions out of proportions. my intention was what someone said above is to prevent someone having a second session which would mean I would hold Day9's account until support fixed the problem and everything was fixed. Thank you.


It's hilarious that you can't see the flaw in your moral reasoning.


What flaw.
He was trying to help day9. Seems like a person with good morals to me.


That he was accessing day9's account without day9's permission to prevent others from accessing day9's account without day9's permission. You really don't see it?

Fair enough R1CH.
astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
June 16 2011 20:25 GMT
#90
On June 17 2011 05:23 R1CH wrote:
Also please drop the Astroorion discussion. It was a well intentioned gesture that unfortunately wasn't the right thing to do, end of story.


Thank you, the flaming what getting to an unbearable point
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Dispersion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Korea (South)504 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 20:26:26
June 16 2011 20:25 GMT
#91
On June 17 2011 04:54 Megaliskuu wrote:
Rofl white knights are funny, even if you did "protect" his account couldn't someone else have come in and did the same thing to get the pass?


+ Show Spoiler +
He probably altered all the security questions to something arbitrary, assuming that was the problem. If the bug wasn't known by Sean, I don't have a problem with this.


edit: dropping the discussion.
Don't worry. Taht's just Halo
Scriptix
Profile Joined December 2010
United States145 Posts
June 16 2011 20:25 GMT
#92
Thanks for keeping us updated. Suck that JTV will be down for who knows how long =(
DIjim
Profile Joined March 2011
England17 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 20:26:54
June 16 2011 20:26 GMT
#93
mod edit: take it to PM.
pownage
Profile Joined March 2011
United States15 Posts
June 16 2011 20:27 GMT
#94
dear jtv users,

sorry for releasing the hack/glitch, i posted it up once but it was taken down. hopefully my intentions helped make justin.tv better :D
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
June 16 2011 20:27 GMT
#95
On June 17 2011 05:25 Scriptix wrote:
Thanks for keeping us updated. Suck that JTV will be down for who knows how long =(

I imagine it will be up again by tonight (US time).
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pownage
Profile Joined March 2011
United States15 Posts
June 16 2011 20:28 GMT
#96
ps i dont think ppl had enough time to do much damage the post was up for probably less than a hour
dpurple
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkmenistan592 Posts
June 16 2011 20:29 GMT
#97
Oh nice to know. It said error #2048 and I was thinking not error #2048 why do bad stuff happen to good people??! I must say this is a huge relief
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 20:30:16
June 16 2011 20:29 GMT
#98
e: didnt read above posts, gotta F5 more.

useless post.
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Ozrak
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico28 Posts
June 16 2011 20:29 GMT
#99
Rich, you are a gentleman and a scholar. I have learned a lot regarding streaming and tech from you. It would be great if you can provide a guide that focuses on 1080p streaming - quality, presets, bandwidth, fps - since I see you as the guru for this.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 20:30:34
June 16 2011 20:30 GMT
#100
On June 17 2011 05:27 pownage wrote:
dear jtv users,

sorry for releasing the hack/glitch, i posted it up once but it was taken down. hopefully my intentions helped make justin.tv better :D

In future please report vulnerabilities, especially security vulnerabilities directly to the responsible party. Only if no action is taken is full disclosure an appropriate course of action. Your post probably has caused a lot of grief for both JTV and all their staff as well as all the streamers, some of who depend on streaming for their income.
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