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As you probably have noticed, JTV is current offline. Due to a security issue, it was possible for unauthorized users to access JTV broadcaster accounts. The JTV network is offline while they work to resolve this. I do not have any further information or an ETA.
If you are a broadcaster, you should check your email address that was registered on JTV. If you see password reminder emails, it is likely that an unauthorized user accessed your account. As I do not know if JTV are able to roll back any unauthorized changes, I recommend that after JTV comes back up, you thoroughly check your account settings for any unauthorized changes to your data - most notably your email address, chat channel moderators / ban lists and authorized sub-streamers. I would recommend you do this even if you did not receive any password reminder emails.
I will update this OP with any official update from JTV as needed.
UPDATE (15:45 EDT): Justin.TV is back online.
15:53: And down again... and up. Seems they are still working on things. System is still not entirely secure, don't verify your account information just yet.
UPDATE (16:15 EDT): JTV confirms no passwords have been compromised, only temporary account access was possible.
UPDATE (17:45 EDT): Justin.TV is back online (heavy load), all accounts have been logged out so the system should be secure now. I'd recommend broadcasters verify their account settings are all normal now. And... down again.
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Thank god, in respect that i thought it was me.  No more watching streams for the night
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Thanks for the update rich.. this is going to be a big halt for SC2 community I feel.
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Edit - Removed my speculation :D.
Hope JTV gets back up soon alot of people rely on this service .
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Is lulzsec hacking them or what? Kind of a bummer
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This is not related to any hacking groups or anything. Please don't post baseless speculation, all the information we have is in the OP.
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I hope they´lle be back for Dreamhack this weekend. :S
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Thanks for letting me/us know Rich!
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On June 17 2011 04:26 R1CH wrote:
Due to a security issue, it was possible for unauthorized users to access JTV broadcaster accounts
If you are a broadcaster, you should check your email address that was registered on JTV. If you see password reminder emails, it is likely that an unauthorized user accessed your account.
I haven't but just in case others have, is this email link to the justin.tv site, or to a site containing malware?
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Aw, on the day I decided to start seriously streaming too . Oh well, hopefully the service will resume later today so I continue failing on the ladder. Thanks for the information r1ch, I always like knowing when my security could have been breached lol.
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On June 17 2011 04:30 R1CH wrote:
This is not related to any hacking groups or anything. Please don't post baseless speculation, all the information we have is in the OP.
Well it's hacking and they were targeting gaming related stuff the past two days (HoN, LoL EVE). It's not that big a jump.
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Oh yay....
Checking accounts now, thanks for the heads up R1CH!
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Thanks for the info.
R1CH... how so awesome?
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On June 17 2011 04:32 coko wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 04:26 R1CH wrote:
Due to a security issue, it was possible for unauthorized users to access JTV broadcaster accounts
If you are a broadcaster, you should check your email address that was registered on JTV. If you see password reminder emails, it is likely that an unauthorized user accessed your account. I haven't but just in case others have, is this email link to the justin.tv site, or to a site containing malware?
There was a bug in the password reset feature on JTV that allowed people to access your account. The email itself is a confirmation that someone used this bug; it is genuine / safe but not the actual issue.
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On June 17 2011 04:34 R1CH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 04:32 coko wrote:On June 17 2011 04:26 R1CH wrote:
Due to a security issue, it was possible for unauthorized users to access JTV broadcaster accounts
If you are a broadcaster, you should check your email address that was registered on JTV. If you see password reminder emails, it is likely that an unauthorized user accessed your account. I haven't but just in case others have, is this email link to the justin.tv site, or to a site containing malware? There was a bug in the password reset feature on JTV that allowed people to access your account. The email itself is a confirmation that someone used this bug; it is genuine / safe but not the actual issue.
Oh, my bad. Pardon my ignorance.
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Thanks for the heads up, saw the shenanigans on Mini's stream.
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Thanks alot, I thought it was my crappy internet. Now maybe I'll be able to force myself to ladder.
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Oooh damn. Pretty bad news. Hope none of the TL streams get hacked. =/
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Seems to me like LulzSec probably did it, considering they are doing every other security breach on the interwebs
User was warned for this post
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On June 17 2011 04:36 Siphonn wrote:
Seems to me like LulzSec probably did it, considering they are doing every other security breach on the interwebs
Please dont bring this nonsense here with no proof like R1CH said, he also said it was a bug with the password reset, not that it was hacked.
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On June 17 2011 04:36 Siphonn wrote:
Seems to me like LulzSec probably did it, considering they are doing every other security breach on the interwebs
Check their Twitter, otherwise they probably didn't do it.
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On June 17 2011 04:37 Kamikiri wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 04:36 Siphonn wrote:
Seems to me like LulzSec probably did it, considering they are doing every other security breach on the interwebs Please dont bring this nonsense here with no proof like R1CH said, he also said it was a bug with the password reset, not that it was hacked.
Lulzsec would have twittered about it if they did like everything else they've done. Which they ain't. So I don't think it was them.
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I was wondering why there were so few streams on at 12 p.m :O, thanks for the quick update! <3 TL and gl to j.tv to fix their problem quick and easy
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On June 17 2011 04:34 R1CH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 04:32 coko wrote:On June 17 2011 04:26 R1CH wrote:
Due to a security issue, it was possible for unauthorized users to access JTV broadcaster accounts
If you are a broadcaster, you should check your email address that was registered on JTV. If you see password reminder emails, it is likely that an unauthorized user accessed your account. I haven't but just in case others have, is this email link to the justin.tv site, or to a site containing malware? There was a bug in the password reset feature on JTV that allowed people to access your account. The email itself is a confirmation that someone used this bug; it is genuine / safe but not the actual issue.
Oh, that calms me a bit more. Strangely useful to know you have been hacked too, rather than being left in an unknown state. Since JTV is down there shouldn't be any more cases of this, or are you not sure?
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Personally I feel that its better than someone trashing his stream/settings/personal stuff.
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On June 17 2011 04:40 ntvarify wrote:Personally I feel that its better than someone trashing his stream/settings/personal stuff.
One person getting access does not negate other people also getting access.
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it looks like justin.tv is back online
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On June 17 2011 04:41 R1CH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 04:40 ntvarify wrote:Personally I feel that its better than someone trashing his stream/settings/personal stuff. One person getting access does not negate other people also getting access.
Exactly. And even if it did it doesn't justify him accessing Day9 or anyone else's account.
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On June 17 2011 04:44 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 04:41 R1CH wrote:On June 17 2011 04:40 ntvarify wrote:Personally I feel that its better than someone trashing his stream/settings/personal stuff. One person getting access does not negate other people also getting access. Exactly. And even if it did it doesn't justify him accessing Day9 or anyone else's account.
If it did, it does justify djwheat accessing day9's account in order to protect him.
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The stream is still paused but it is no longer showing the error message (for the NASL at least)
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On June 17 2011 04:44 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 04:41 R1CH wrote:On June 17 2011 04:40 ntvarify wrote:Personally I feel that its better than someone trashing his stream/settings/personal stuff. One person getting access does not negate other people also getting access. Exactly. And even if it did it doesn't justify him accessing Day9 or anyone else's account.
I don't completely blame him if he was trying to protect Day9's account. He might have thought that someone accessing it would block others from doing so? I don't know. He doesn't seem like a bad guy, in any case.
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On June 17 2011 04:45 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 04:44 SolHeiM wrote:On June 17 2011 04:41 R1CH wrote:On June 17 2011 04:40 ntvarify wrote:Personally I feel that its better than someone trashing his stream/settings/personal stuff. One person getting access does not negate other people also getting access. Exactly. And even if it did it doesn't justify him accessing Day9 or anyone else's account. If it did, it does justify djwheat accessing day9's account in order to protect him.
With day9's permission then yes I would agree. But not some random person.
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nasl stream still not working for me, all still pictures/freeze frame. and while that still shows a scoreboard with zenio 1-0 in front of idra, the graphics below the stream on the nasl page already spoiler the ruseult...great job.
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I blame the guy who started the thread on TL and a lot of ppl saw how to do it, he didnt even get banned
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On June 17 2011 04:45 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 04:44 SolHeiM wrote:On June 17 2011 04:41 R1CH wrote:On June 17 2011 04:40 ntvarify wrote:Personally I feel that its better than someone trashing his stream/settings/personal stuff. One person getting access does not negate other people also getting access. Exactly. And even if it did it doesn't justify him accessing Day9 or anyone else's account. If it did, it does justify djwheat accessing day9's account in order to protect him.
From that tweet I am guessing it was a guy telling DJWheat he accesed day9's account. Not the other way around...
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What do you mean you are speechless? That is my Twitter account, I was only trying to protect Day9 from any sort of hacking attempt, and protecting all the personal information he had tied to his account.
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Rofl white knights are funny, even if you did "protect" his account couldn't someone else have come in and did the same thing to get the pass?
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On June 17 2011 04:53 astroorion wrote:What do you mean you are speechless? That is my Twitter account, I was only trying to protect Day9 from any sort of hacking attempt, and protecting all the personal information he had tied to his account.
Maybe I don't understand the exploit being used, but how does you obtaining access to Day9's account prohibit others from doing it as well?
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On June 17 2011 04:55 StarCraft64 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 04:53 astroorion wrote:What do you mean you are speechless? That is my Twitter account, I was only trying to protect Day9 from any sort of hacking attempt, and protecting all the personal information he had tied to his account. Maybe I don't understand the exploit being used, but how does you obtaining access to Day9's account prohibit others from doing it as well?
It doesn't, that's why it was a stupid move.
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Thanks for the info R1ch. So Justin tv has come back up? or am i the only one getting the error message.
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On June 17 2011 04:53 astroorion wrote:What do you mean you are speechless? That is my Twitter account, I was only trying to protect Day9 from any sort of hacking attempt, and protecting all the personal information he had tied to his account.
So in order to do that you without Day9's permission accessed his account? Is that what you did? You had no right to do so and even if you thought it was in light of helping day9, it doesn't justify you accessing his account without his permission.
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It went up.. then it went down.
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Doesn't suprise me honestly, some people would take a bullet for Day9.
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On June 17 2011 04:54 Megaliskuu wrote:
Rofl white knights are funny, even if you did "protect" his account couldn't someone else have come in and did the same thing to get the pass?
I'm sure it was possible, but by the time that I had stated what I had done to protect his account, the thread was long gone, and no one on JTV in his channel or on IRC had heard about it, so while it was possible it seemed unlikely
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Don't flame the guy. He was only trying to help, from what he believed if he gained access to the account it would stop people with malicious intents on doing harm by stealing his information / using the account for mischief. He had good intentions.
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On June 17 2011 04:58 Benjef wrote:
Don't flame the guy. He was only trying to help, from what he believed if he gained access to the account it would stop people with malicious intents on doing harm by stealing his information / using the account for mischief. He had good intentions.
Thank you, that does sum up my thought at the time. I figured that it would create a problem in the already corrupted database if someone was logged into the account, making it unable to exploit said glitch
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On June 17 2011 04:57 Zedex wrote:Doesn't suprise me honestly, some people would take a bullet for Day9.
It seems more akin to shooting him so no one else could, without realizing that there's an infinite number of guns pointing at him from all angles... with unlimited ammunition.
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On June 17 2011 04:58 Benjef wrote:
Don't flame the guy. He was only trying to help, from what he believed if he gained access to the account it would stop people with malicious intents on doing harm by stealing his information / using the account for mischief. He had good intentions.
Doesn't matter, he still had no right to access another persons account without their permission. If you get insider information about a potential robbery, if you steal the money first to prevent the real robbers from taking it you're still in the wrong because you had no right to do so. Instead you call the police (or justin.tv support in this case) and tell them of the problem.
You don't access another persons account without their permission.
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On June 17 2011 05:00 StarCraft64 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 04:57 Zedex wrote:Doesn't suprise me honestly, some people would take a bullet for Day9. It seems more akin to shooting him so no one else could, without realizing that there's an infinite number of guns pointing at him from all angles... with unlimited ammunition.
Lol. Spot on.
"Don't worry Day9, I'll log into your account without permission so that nobody else can..."
"Don't worry Day9, I'll shoot you in the chest so that nobody else can..."
Why can't others log into his account without permission as well as you? Why can't others shoot him in the chest as well as you? No logic.
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On June 17 2011 05:01 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 04:58 Benjef wrote:
Don't flame the guy. He was only trying to help, from what he believed if he gained access to the account it would stop people with malicious intents on doing harm by stealing his information / using the account for mischief. He had good intentions. Doesn't matter, he still had no right to access another persons account without their permission. If you get insider information about a potential robbery, if you steal the money first to prevent the real robbers from taking it you're still in the wrong because you had no right to do so. Instead you call the police (or justin.tv support in this case) and tell them of the problem. You don't access another persons account without their permission.
This isn't like a real world crime. This is internet. Your example is invalid.
He tried to help and even if it was unmanner/illegal, not like anything is going to happen to him, and I don't blame him doing it because he clearly had good intentions. If you had the choice to break the law, over the internet, to help Day9 not get hacked, I'm sure many of us would do it.
On June 17 2011 05:03 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Lol. Spot on.
"Don't worry Day9, I'll log into your account without permission so that nobody else can..."
"Don't worry Day9, I'll shoot you in the chest so that nobody else can..."
Why can't others log into his account without permission as well as you? Why can't others shoot him in the chest as well as you? No logic.
Except that in many sites, you cant log in the same account from 2 different places. If he kept his session active for the time necessary, no one else would be able to access the account which would mean day9 would be safe.
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On June 17 2011 05:03 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 05:00 StarCraft64 wrote:On June 17 2011 04:57 Zedex wrote:Doesn't suprise me honestly, some people would take a bullet for Day9. It seems more akin to shooting him so no one else could, without realizing that there's an infinite number of guns pointing at him from all angles... with unlimited ammunition. Lol. Spot on. "Don't worry Day9, I'll log into your account without permission so that nobody else can..." "Don't worry Day9, I'll shoot you in the chest so that nobody else can..." Why can't others log into his account without permission as well as you? Why can't others shoot him in the chest as well as you? No logic.
Actually it's more like this:
The Boss of Random Store says to Astoorion as he turns up to work the next day.
"Oh no. Our store was broken in to and the robbers got away with all the money in the safe."
And astoorion tells his boss not to worry. "I found out about it, but it's all OK because I stole the money first so they wouldn't be able to."
An hour later the police arrest astoorion who sits in the back of the squad car with a perplexed look on his face.
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On June 17 2011 05:00 StarCraft64 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 04:57 Zedex wrote:Doesn't suprise me honestly, some people would take a bullet for Day9. It seems more akin to shooting him so no one else could, without realizing that there's an infinite number of guns pointing at him from all angles... with unlimited ammunition.
In my eyes, it's more akin to him pushing Day9 onto the ground, resulting in some minor scrapes and bruises, so that Day9 can dodge a bullet that's headed his way.
Edit: Sure, the ethical principle that one shouldn't infringe on another's property is still violated. But it's hard to ignore that unlike the potential hackers/information thieves, this person had every intention of doing it to help rather than harm.
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I really don't think it was the smartest way to take over an account and I even believe there might be legal charges incoming (depends on local law; don't really know US situation).
But at least it seems he didn't have any bad intentions by doing this.
I'd suggest to simply contact justin.tv or whoever it might be in the future by email and tell them about the issue. This should be a more appropriate way to help than intruding other accounts.
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On June 17 2011 05:07 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 05:03 FallDownMarigold wrote:On June 17 2011 05:00 StarCraft64 wrote:On June 17 2011 04:57 Zedex wrote:Doesn't suprise me honestly, some people would take a bullet for Day9. It seems more akin to shooting him so no one else could, without realizing that there's an infinite number of guns pointing at him from all angles... with unlimited ammunition. Lol. Spot on. "Don't worry Day9, I'll log into your account without permission so that nobody else can..." "Don't worry Day9, I'll shoot you in the chest so that nobody else can..." Why can't others log into his account without permission as well as you? Why can't others shoot him in the chest as well as you? No logic. Actually it's more like this: The Boss of Random Store says to Astoorion as he turns up to work the next day. "Oh no. Our store was broken in to and the robbers got away with all the money in the safe." And astoorion tells his boss not to worry. "I found out about it, but it's all OK because I stole the money first so they wouldn't be able to." An hour later the police arrest astoorion who sits in the back of the squad car with a perplexed look on his face.
You act as if he doesn't have any intention of giving the account back.
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He was trying to help, you guys mind cutting it out?
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If you get insider information about a potential robbery, if you steal the money first to prevent the real robbers from taking it you're still in the wrong because you had no right to do so. Instead you call the police (or justin.tv support in this case) and tell them of the problem.
But he didn't steal the money, he just broke in the store first because he thought if he was in there, no-one else could get in.
He didn't break in to steal any money, it was to prevent others from stealing. Although he didn't have any right to break in to the store, he thought by doing so, he was helping.
Contacting justin.tv support wasn't going to fix the problem straight away, but he thought that logging into day9's account was a temporary solution to stop anyone from messing with his account
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On June 17 2011 05:03 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 05:00 StarCraft64 wrote:On June 17 2011 04:57 Zedex wrote:Doesn't suprise me honestly, some people would take a bullet for Day9. It seems more akin to shooting him so no one else could, without realizing that there's an infinite number of guns pointing at him from all angles... with unlimited ammunition. Lol. Spot on. "Don't worry Day9, I'll log into your account without permission so that nobody else can..." "Don't worry Day9, I'll shoot you in the chest so that nobody else can..." Why can't others log into his account without permission as well as you? Why can't others shoot him in the chest as well as you? No logic.
The actual problem here is people logging on the account and changing settings etc. not logging in and doing nothing. The analogy is more like "Don't worry Day9, I'll point a gun at you so that nobody else shoots you..." even tough it's useless because it doesn't matter if someone is logged in.
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On June 17 2011 05:06 HoMM wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 05:01 SolHeiM wrote:On June 17 2011 04:58 Benjef wrote:
Don't flame the guy. He was only trying to help, from what he believed if he gained access to the account it would stop people with malicious intents on doing harm by stealing his information / using the account for mischief. He had good intentions. Doesn't matter, he still had no right to access another persons account without their permission. If you get insider information about a potential robbery, if you steal the money first to prevent the real robbers from taking it you're still in the wrong because you had no right to do so. Instead you call the police (or justin.tv support in this case) and tell them of the problem. You don't access another persons account without their permission. This isn't like a real world crime. This is internet. Your example is invalid. He tried to help and even if it was unmanner/illegal, not like anything is going to happen to him, and I don't blame him doing it because he clearly had good intentions. If you had the choice to break the law, over the internet, to help Day9 not get hacked, I'm sure many of us would do it.
My example is a hypothetical situation that puts the morality of his action in question. He thinks he's in the right when he's in the wrong. When you think about it the employee stealing the money first so the robbers couldn't in his eyes isn't a crime either because he wasn't intending on keeping the money but he thought he was doing a good deed because he prevented the "real" robbers from taking it.
The reality is that he's just as wrong as anyone else trying to access day9's account.
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On June 17 2011 05:09 DIjim wrote:Show nested quote + If you get insider information about a potential robbery, if you steal the money first to prevent the real robbers from taking it you're still in the wrong because you had no right to do so. Instead you call the police (or justin.tv support in this case) and tell them of the problem. But he didn't steal the money, he just broke in the store first because he thought if he was in there, no-one else could get in. He didn't break in to steal any money, it was to prevent others from stealing. Although he didn't have any right to break in to the store, he thought by doing so, he was helping. Contacting justin.tv support wasn't going to fix the problem straight away, but he thought that logging into day9's account was a temporary solution to stop anyone from messing with his account
Contacting justin.tv support is going to fix the problem straight away. You really think they are going to let a major security break just slip by like that?
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JTV
Hopefully nobody decided to protect [read: steal] my account too. o_o'''
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I did contact Justin.TV Support as well as Day9 and a few of his chat admins. I am sorry for those who have to read the argument of those who blew the reasoning and "logic" behind my actions out of proportions. my intention was what someone said above is to prevent someone having a second session which would mean I would hold Day9's account until support fixed the problem and everything was fixed. Thank you.
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On June 17 2011 05:11 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 05:09 DIjim wrote: If you get insider information about a potential robbery, if you steal the money first to prevent the real robbers from taking it you're still in the wrong because you had no right to do so. Instead you call the police (or justin.tv support in this case) and tell them of the problem. But he didn't steal the money, he just broke in the store first because he thought if he was in there, no-one else could get in. He didn't break in to steal any money, it was to prevent others from stealing. Although he didn't have any right to break in to the store, he thought by doing so, he was helping. Contacting justin.tv support wasn't going to fix the problem straight away, but he thought that logging into day9's account was a temporary solution to stop anyone from messing with his account Contacting justin.tv support is going to fix the problem straight away. You really think they are going to let a major security break just slip by like that?
I doubt they'd be able to fix it before anyone could do damage. There were plenty of bans and account manipulation handed out, and there's a good chance it was reported the moment this exploit was leaked.
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On June 17 2011 05:13 KawaiiRice wrote: JTV Hopefully nobody decided to protect [read: steal] my account too. o_o'''
If you received a password change request email, then someone tried to. Otherwise you're in the clear.
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jtv come back online please, you make regame.tv's justin.tv forward service trowing a *load of errors 
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astoorion you're freaking me out mate
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On June 17 2011 05:14 astroorion wrote:
I did contact Justin.TV Support as well as Day9 and a few of his chat admins. I am sorry for those who have to read the argument of those who blew the reasoning and "logic" behind my actions out of proportions. my intention was what someone said above is to prevent someone having a second session which would mean I would hold Day9's account until support fixed the problem and everything was fixed. Thank you.
It's hilarious that you can't see the flaw in your moral reasoning.
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JTV has confirmed no passwords were compromised.
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On June 17 2011 05:16 R1CH wrote:
JTV has confirmed no passwords were compromised.
What about personal data and information though....?
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Contacting justin.tv support is going to fix the problem straight away. You really think they are going to let a major security break just slip by like that?
I would expect that it only takes a small amount of time to do something harmful to someone's account when you have access to it, maybe less than a minute. You can't be 100% sure that justin.tv support is going to be able to respond to your message within a minute, but of course they will respond to it very quickly which is why astoorion only took access of the account for the time when it was vulnerable.
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On June 17 2011 05:16 R1CH wrote:
JTV has confirmed no passwords were compromised.
Thats what the companies always tell...
They would be stupid to not have the passwords encypted.
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On June 17 2011 05:16 R1CH wrote:
JTV has confirmed no passwords were compromised.
That's because you would have had the original password to change the account password, so at least that had some security measures in place
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On June 17 2011 05:15 Grimskov wrote:
astoorion you're freaking me out mate
Why?
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On June 17 2011 05:16 R1CH wrote:
JTV has confirmed no passwords were compromised.
Except for Day9's password. That one is being kept safe in astroorion's basement, tied up, hungry and naked in the dark - but hey its safe.
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On June 17 2011 05:16 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 05:14 astroorion wrote:
I did contact Justin.TV Support as well as Day9 and a few of his chat admins. I am sorry for those who have to read the argument of those who blew the reasoning and "logic" behind my actions out of proportions. my intention was what someone said above is to prevent someone having a second session which would mean I would hold Day9's account until support fixed the problem and everything was fixed. Thank you. It's hilarious that you can't see the flaw in your moral reasoning.
What flaw.
He was trying to help day9. Seems like a person with good morals to me.
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On June 17 2011 05:16 SolHeiM wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 05:14 astroorion wrote:
I did contact Justin.TV Support as well as Day9 and a few of his chat admins. I am sorry for those who have to read the argument of those who blew the reasoning and "logic" behind my actions out of proportions. my intention was what someone said above is to prevent someone having a second session which would mean I would hold Day9's account until support fixed the problem and everything was fixed. Thank you. It's hilarious that you can't see the flaw in your moral reasoning.
I understand that the way some people read this may interpret it in a different way then what I intended so I am very sorry for my actions and hope to be able to talk to Day9 about what happened and if there would be any problems in the future between the 2 of us.
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NASL chat was a clear victim to that. Somebody did say he was Incontrol and started banning everyone chatting. Too bad, wanted to see the end of Idra vs Zenio
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it's a nice effort with good intentions (imo anyways) but i dont think ur supposed to go public with it.
u gotta be like batman. l0l
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I'm willing to bet Day9 is not worried about what astoorian has done. Day9 says love each other and all that jazz. You guys need to just lay off.
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On June 17 2011 05:17 DIjim wrote:Show nested quote +Contacting justin.tv support is going to fix the problem straight away. You really think they are going to let a major security break just slip by like that? I would expect that it only takes a small amount of time to do something harmful to someone's account when you have access to it, maybe less than a minute.
That's exactly why they shut the entire website down immediately once they realized how serious it was.
You can't be 100% sure that justin.tv support is going to be able to respond to your message within a minute, but of course they will respond to it very quickly which is why astoorion only took access of the account for the time when it was vulnerable.
Still doesn't make it right to access another persons account without their permission.
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Idra's account was hacked. Someone changed his descriptions and name.
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On June 17 2011 05:17 Frankon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 05:16 R1CH wrote:
JTV has confirmed no passwords were compromised. Thats what the companies always tell...
I'm inclined to believe them, I don't see how having account access would actually reveal any passwords. This would be like me stealing your TL cookie, sure I could login as you temporarily but I'd have no way of knowing what your password was.
On June 17 2011 05:17 Benjef wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 05:16 R1CH wrote:
JTV has confirmed no passwords were compromised. What about personal data and information though....?
Anything was was visible in the compromised account control panel (email address, ad earnings for partner accounts, etc) was likely accessible to unauthorized users. I don't think JTV displays anything more personal like address or phone number.
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On June 17 2011 05:17 Frankon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 05:16 R1CH wrote:
JTV has confirmed no passwords were compromised. Thats what the companies always tell... They would be stupid to not have the passwords encypted.
Tell that to Sony....
On June 17 2011 05:20 Grimskov wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 05:16 R1CH wrote:
JTV has confirmed no passwords were compromised. Except for Day9's password. That one is being kept safe in astroorion's basement, tied up, hungry and naked in the dark - but hey its safe.
Rofl gave me a giggle ^^.
Will be nice to find out the cause of all this, whether it was a malicious attack or just a glitch in the system.
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On June 17 2011 05:10 SolHeiM wrote:
This isn't like a real world crime. This is internet. Your example is invalid.
He tried to help and even if it was unmanner/illegal, not like anything is going to happen to him, and I don't blame him doing it because he clearly had good intentions. If you had the choice to break the law, over the internet, to help Day9 not get hacked, I'm sure many of us would do it.
My example is a hypothetical situation that puts the morality of his action in question. He thinks he's in the right when he's in the wrong. When you think about it the employee stealing the money first so the robbers couldn't in his eyes isn't a crime either because he wasn't intending on keeping the money but he thought he was doing a good deed because he prevented the "real" robbers from taking it.
The reality is that he's just as wrong as anyone else trying to access day9's account.
Your example is flawed given that need for intent to permanently deprive someone of a possession is necessary for a theft conviction.
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Also please drop the Astroorion discussion. It was a well intentioned gesture that unfortunately wasn't the right thing to do, end of story.
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On June 17 2011 05:20 HoMM wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 05:16 SolHeiM wrote:On June 17 2011 05:14 astroorion wrote:
I did contact Justin.TV Support as well as Day9 and a few of his chat admins. I am sorry for those who have to read the argument of those who blew the reasoning and "logic" behind my actions out of proportions. my intention was what someone said above is to prevent someone having a second session which would mean I would hold Day9's account until support fixed the problem and everything was fixed. Thank you. It's hilarious that you can't see the flaw in your moral reasoning. What flaw. He was trying to help day9. Seems like a person with good morals to me.
That he was accessing day9's account without day9's permission to prevent others from accessing day9's account without day9's permission. You really don't see it?
Fair enough R1CH.
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On June 17 2011 05:23 R1CH wrote:
Also please drop the Astroorion discussion. It was a well intentioned gesture that unfortunately wasn't the right thing to do, end of story.
Thank you, the flaming what getting to an unbearable point
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On June 17 2011 04:54 Megaliskuu wrote:
Rofl white knights are funny, even if you did "protect" his account couldn't someone else have come in and did the same thing to get the pass?
+ Show Spoiler +He probably altered all the security questions to something arbitrary, assuming that was the problem. If the bug wasn't known by Sean, I don't have a problem with this.
edit: dropping the discussion.
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Thanks for keeping us updated. Suck that JTV will be down for who knows how long =(
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dear jtv users,
sorry for releasing the hack/glitch, i posted it up once but it was taken down. hopefully my intentions helped make justin.tv better :D
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On June 17 2011 05:25 Scriptix wrote:
Thanks for keeping us updated. Suck that JTV will be down for who knows how long =(
I imagine it will be up again by tonight (US time).
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ps i dont think ppl had enough time to do much damage the post was up for probably less than a hour
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Oh nice to know. It said error #2048 and I was thinking not error #2048 why do bad stuff happen to good people??! I must say this is a huge relief
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e: didnt read above posts, gotta F5 more.
useless post.
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Rich, you are a gentleman and a scholar. I have learned a lot regarding streaming and tech from you. It would be great if you can provide a guide that focuses on 1080p streaming - quality, presets, bandwidth, fps - since I see you as the guru for this.
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On June 17 2011 05:27 pownage wrote:
dear jtv users,
sorry for releasing the hack/glitch, i posted it up once but it was taken down. hopefully my intentions helped make justin.tv better :D
In future please report vulnerabilities, especially security vulnerabilities directly to the responsible party. Only if no action is taken is full disclosure an appropriate course of action. Your post probably has caused a lot of grief for both JTV and all their staff as well as all the streamers, some of who depend on streaming for their income.
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mod edit: take it to PM, this discussion does not belong here
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mod edit: take it to PM, this discussion does not belong here
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That sucks for the streamers
Hope they get it fixed and no one loses too much of their stuff. GL on fixing it JTV. Thanks for the updates R1CH
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On June 17 2011 05:27 pownage wrote:
dear jtv users,
sorry for releasing the hack/glitch, i posted it up once but it was taken down. hopefully my intentions helped make justin.tv better :D
Your intentions were apparently to totally screw over justin.tv and the community, if you had any reasonable sense you would have just emailed them with the issue. Thanks for being an asshat.
PS - Thanks for the updates, R1CH.
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R1CH fighting! Hopefully this gets fixed soon so I can watch my favorite streamers again.
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So now i have to watch television? Hope i can find the remote.. 
OT: Hope this gets resolved soon, and thx for the updates R1CH
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Just seeing "Streams: 25" on the top right corner makes me sad.
I was hoping to watch some destiny tonight :'(
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Yeah, I watched Minigun's stream as it was happening and then after he called up the admin they brought JTV down o.O. Thanks for the updates R1ch
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On June 17 2011 05:36 Grimskov wrote:
Just seeing "Streams: 25" on the top right corner makes me sad.
I was hoping to watch some destiny tonight :'(
This is what you get when you almost have a stream monopoly ^^
Own3d and SC streams are standing strong
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hope this gets fixed soon
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On June 17 2011 05:27 pownage wrote:
dear jtv users,
sorry for releasing the hack/glitch, i posted it up once but it was taken down. hopefully my intentions helped make justin.tv better :D
Doesnt the :D completely make the sorry worthless? Anyway I dont like you. Thank you for helping in screwing up my NASL night.
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It's almost like it's 2009 all over again! I was wondering why there were so few streams online
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They are forcing me to actually play SC2 for once instead of just watch it. =O
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JTV seems to be back online now (but heavily loaded), and all accounts have been logged out so the only way to access an account is if you have the correct password. I'd advise any broadcasters to check all their account settings thoroughly before resuming streams.
Keep in mind your stream key should have changed too so you will need to update your broadcasting applications (excluding xsplit).
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"Currently down for maintenance
Thanks for checking in, Justin.tv's engineers are working hard to get everything back online quickly.
We're constantly improving our service based on your feedback. Thanks for helping make us the largest and highest quality video site on the web."
I think it's already down again lol... was trying to login then got this after a couple tries
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hehe under HEAVY load indeed....
503 Service Unavailable
No server is available to handle this request.
>.<;;
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Slowly cycling the servers back up now. Hang tight- don't keep refreshing quite yet as it makes it that much harder for them to come up.
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Ah, no wonder. This morning when Warden was streaming, some random guy messaged him on Bnet saying that he had a hack that could log into other people's jtv accounts. Good thing jtv reacted quickly.
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Hrm, I can't log into my JTV account atm and there was a password reset request in my e-mail. I'm hoping it's just the JTV maintenance atm as most of the time I'm still getting 502 Bad Gateway etc.
Will check back later.
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Ahhh, for a second though this might be the reason there has been suspicious logins from South Korea on my Email I use for JTV, but I guess not!
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srsly haha at all those people telling "why dont you already switch to jtv"
this is what i would call a reason
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sucks for those who got their accounts accessed. Hopefully the site gets back to normal before the weekend.
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On June 17 2011 07:42 Special Endrey wrote:
srsly haha at all those people telling "why dont you already switch to jtv"
this is what i would call a reason
This logic makes zero sense
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On June 17 2011 07:42 Special Endrey wrote:
srsly haha at all those people telling "why dont you already switch to jtv"
this is what i would call a reason
So when someone asked you about why you don't use JTV, your reason was that "well they're going to go down because of security issues on 6/16/2011, that's why"?
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On June 17 2011 07:52 Jtn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 07:42 Special Endrey wrote:
srsly haha at all those people telling "why dont you already switch to jtv"
this is what i would call a reason So when someone asked you about why you don't use JTV, your reason was that "well they're going to go down because of security issues on 6/16/2011, that's why"?
SC streams pay better to its partners for comercials ^^.
Thats the main reason.
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On June 17 2011 07:32 SK.Testie wrote:
Hrm, I can't log into my JTV account atm and there was a password reset request in my e-mail. I'm hoping it's just the JTV maintenance atm as most of the time I'm still getting 502 Bad Gateway etc.
Will check back later.
The 502 is a result of the servers still coming back up (~60% at this point we hope). As far as we know at this point it was impossible for an impersonator to actually change your password or get any sensitive information. Won't hurt to log in and change it though once the servers are up.
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On June 17 2011 07:42 Special Endrey wrote:
srsly haha at all those people telling "why dont you already switch to jtv"
this is what i would call a reason
Nostradamus Ladies and Gents...
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On June 17 2011 07:42 Special Endrey wrote:
srsly haha at all those people telling "why dont you already switch to jtv"
this is what i would call a reason
Every single streaming service has had downtime, and almost every single one has had more downtime than JTV had.
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Only reason I hate jtv....is that they have really bad servers in EU.....u get black screen/lag/ etc pretty frequiently (I know alot of EU ppl have the same issue).
If I use a US proxy then it works fine (yay).
God I hope dreamhack doesnt use jtv....
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JTV seems to be down once again. Possibly too many server requests as everyone is spamming now to see if it's back online?
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On June 17 2011 07:58 provrorsbarn wrote:
Only reason I hate jtv....is that they have really bad servers in EU.....u get black screen/lag/ etc pretty frequiently (I know alot of EU ppl have the same issue).
If I use a US proxy then it works fine (yay).
God I hope dreamhack doesnt use jtv....
Sadly it switched to jtv....
PS. To Realcun and Orb. You guys are viewing Jtv from US perspective where it works perfectly. Sadly for continental europe Jtv had so many hiccups already that its viewed as the worst streaming service in EU (minus UK). They still cant find the reason of the recurring routing problem that they have to mainland EU.
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i wondered why there were only like 4 streams online lol
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On June 17 2011 07:42 Special Endrey wrote:
srsly haha at all those people telling "why dont you already switch to jtv"
this is what i would call a reason
Lmfao... I can't even believe this post. It just looks like a failed attempt to say "I told you so" when choosing streams... but it isn't backed up by logic whatsoever.
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On June 17 2011 07:58 provrorsbarn wrote:
Only reason I hate jtv....is that they have really bad servers in EU.....u get black screen/lag/ etc pretty frequiently (I know alot of EU ppl have the same issue).
If I use a US proxy then it works fine (yay).
God I hope dreamhack doesnt use jtv....
They will have a ton of streams and I'm sure at the very least a few of them will be jtv. I know the main/important streaming will be from svt play.
I don't really find jtv laggy in any way and I live in northern sweden, I use it for streaming as well and it's working as a charm.
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JTV in EU is indeed really, REALLY Bad. unfortunatly.
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yay finally got a stream to load, finally have something to watch, even if its wow lol
edit: ok maybe not
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On June 17 2011 08:15 Moralez wrote:
JTV in EU is indeed really, REALLY Bad. unfortunatly.
As much as I love JTV I have to admit they seem to pay less attention to the european viewership.
There are certain times a day where you know the connection will stumble/break up.
I hope they will fix this issue soon.
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On June 17 2011 07:42 Special Endrey wrote:
srsly haha at all those people telling "why dont you already switch to jtv"
this is what i would call a reason
Sighhhhh. Any time there is a problem with ANYTHING there's always one who says THAT THING is the worst thing in the world, and see look I have proof!
It is a shame that tournaments broadcasted on it will either be blacked out or postponed and that my favorite streamers (who might have been streaming right now!) cannot do so. But life will go on, my friends. Justin will come back to us.
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Didn't realise how addicted I am to streams, heh.
Pity JTV is the only watchable one for me because it actually offers resolution options. The rest need to get a clue and give some control :<
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thanks for the updates R1ch
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I decide to try out one p2p MMO (Vanguard), Sony gets hacked. I sign up for JTV, JTV gets hacked. T_T I better not try to get my paypal acc back...
+ Show Spoiler +Yes, yes, no actual hacking occurred, I know, I know.
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Oh man. You mean I am going to have to do work insead of watching starcraft 2 all night. Say it aint so!
I hope no sc streamers had their accounts compromised.
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On June 17 2011 07:47 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2011 07:42 Special Endrey wrote:
srsly haha at all those people telling "why dont you already switch to jtv"
this is what i would call a reason This logic makes zero sense
it was more of an inside joke - but let me explain
so in january when i switched from own3d to sc-streams now know as regame.tv i was quite happy with the support and the functions etc. then justin.tv got bigger and bigger and started to pay some dollars for ad revenue etc. so basicly 95% of every caster caster team, 1st person streamer switched to jtv, but i was hesitant since jtv still has quite a lot of lags on the EU servers and becasue about 70% of my viewersship are actually from europe and becasue of the way better support and was and still am sticking to regame.tv. over the last months quite a lot of people were telling me stuff like
"hey dude just switch over to jtv already"
"why u still at this crap site"
"dont u want top dollar"
well im one of the few if not only the caster who is not on own3d or jtv - and since 4 weeks we have additional servers in the us so lag isnt a issue for me or my viewers anymore .
so with jtv not beeing able to secure their data or what you wanna call it - it really doesnt matter - coz the only thing that matters is - the site was down and its not the 1st time there are problems with jtv.
its just ironic how the only streams available for a couple of hours actually were regame streams showing how many people are currently streaming via jtv and that those unmannered trolls now have something to think about hehe :D
im not saying jtv is a bad company or that they are uunprofessional of anykind but still stuff had and is happening at jtv which should not happen
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Any other streamers having troubles with Dyyno broadcaster?
Login error. I know my PW / username are correct as I can log into JTV (it's the same)
zomg I want to stream
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