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WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
June 17 2011 13:00 GMT
#241
On June 17 2011 07:45 Probe1 wrote:
Not that I know of Clbull.


Newish interview with Dustin/Kim on HotS and balancing. I die a little inside every time I hear them talk about the game.Link here.


What is so difficult to listen to what they are saying? I thought David Kim gave a lot of information about how they approach balance and even said they are balancing HotS multiplayer and working on maps right now, he didn't try to hide anything or sound like he had no idea what he was doing. David Kim is always very interesting to listen to in interviews. Browder was only talking about singleplayer so there was nothing strange or misleading in that regard.
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 16:16:48
June 17 2011 15:27 GMT
#242
Can someone give me three all-in builds for each matchup (one for each) as a Terran player to be used in close positions?

I am losing every game here because whatever I do, it just doesn't work because I'm not an all-in-ish player. I need some all-in builds to just finish these shitty games as fast as possible. Can anyone PM me about it?
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 17 2011 19:39 GMT
#243
On June 17 2011 22:00 WArped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 07:45 Probe1 wrote:
Not that I know of Clbull.


Newish interview with Dustin/Kim on HotS and balancing. I die a little inside every time I hear them talk about the game.Link here.


What is so difficult to listen to what they are saying? I thought David Kim gave a lot of information about how they approach balance and even said they are balancing HotS multiplayer and working on maps right now, he didn't try to hide anything or sound like he had no idea what he was doing. David Kim is always very interesting to listen to in interviews. Browder was only talking about singleplayer so there was nothing strange or misleading in that regard.


In the interviews I've seen their idea of Starcraft is very different from my own. And it scares me. Hearing that units may be removed because they are "uncool" or that they are looking at balancing issues that I don't think are actually issues bothers me. Perhaps I worded it too strongly but I don't want to see a constant stream of balance and rebalance and balance changes.

David Kim did give a lot of information and I don't disagree with anything in your post. I just don't like the information they give you.
I've been thinking pretty hard about the information they've presented so far and I'm very opinionated about it. I don't know if this is the best place to voice them, if at all.
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bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
June 17 2011 20:33 GMT
#244
Hello, new player here and I have some basic mechanics questions that I don't think are really worth their own topic, so here goes:

1. Do most good players use the middle mouse to pan or do they move mouse to the edge of the screen?

2. If you use middle mouse do you disable the other option?

3. Apart from setting number hotkeys and using the unit/upgrade production hotkeys, what else is there that I should be using keys for?

4. Should I be double tapping of hotkeys to move to locations quickly?

5. And I guess - does anyone have any other tips along these lines? Or is there threads I should be looking at?

Tyvm!!
-Aura-
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States209 Posts
June 17 2011 20:35 GMT
#245
On June 17 2011 05:37 Clbull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 04:28 -Aura- wrote:
On June 17 2011 04:27 Clbull wrote:
On June 17 2011 04:13 -Aura- wrote:
On June 17 2011 03:02 madcow19 wrote:
On June 17 2011 00:24 CruelZeratul wrote:
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In one of the Day9 dailies (I forgot which one) he showed us a programm which could start a Replay without starting SC2. Could anyone tell me the name of that programm?


If you go into your Drive:/programfiles/starcraft2 there should be an icon called "Starcraft 2 Dropper" just drag and drop replays onto that there and it'll load right up without you having to log-in.




I can't find a Starcraft 2 Dropper, did you mean Starcraft 2 Switcher?


Really? I cannot find neither a Starcraft 2 Dropper or a Starcraft 2 Switcher. I checked in C/Program Files (x86)/Starcraft II and can only find Starcraft II, Starcraft II repair and Starcraft II Public Test Client

EDIT: It's actually located in C/Program Files/Starcraft II/Support (In the case of a 64 bit Windows OS as I'm using, Program Files (x86)) and it's an application called SC2Switcher.


Knew I wasn't crazy :D

EDIT: Actually, I'm just wrong. When I drag a replay to the Switcher it makes me log in. Anyone know how to do this without logging in?


Have you tried it with a replay from a previous version? Or does it still make you log in even then?

EDIT: I've tried it with previous version replays. I think that you don't need to log in then. This is actually awesome because if you try to view previous version replays when you have the game client itself opened up then you are basically forced to log out and then log back in once the replay is done.

So basically the only utility of the whole thing is to watch old replays?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Liquid get more Terrans please...
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 20:58:01
June 17 2011 20:53 GMT
#246
On June 18 2011 05:33 bardtown wrote:
Hello, new player here and I have some basic mechanics questions that I don't think are really worth their own topic, so here goes:

Tyvm!!

Welcome to team liquid!
Simple Question Simple Answer thread.
Simple questions simple answers is the destination you're looking for. Be sure to read the stickied threads in Strategy before posting and starting threads.

1. Too general of a question. Whatever way you can pan fastest with accuracy is the best way for you.
2. Middle mouse is not exclusive, you can move the camera with any method.
3. Too ambiguous, please specify what race. If you were zerg your hotkeys would be immensely different from protoss.
4. You can set bookmarks with F5-F8 (I'm not sure what exact ones they are as I remapped them) Check hotkey information in game for further info. Also I need to know what race your playing. As a zerg player I use backspace (remapped to `~tilde) to quickly cycle through hatcheries and I double tap hotkeys to quickly move to my army if it isn't split in several places.
5. Here are several links. General tips
Thread with builds and guides.
Liquipedia is good too.
These questions definitely belong in Simple Questions, Simple Answers.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
June 17 2011 21:19 GMT
#247
Hi thanks for the quick response . Just checking through the guide thread right now then I'll see what I can find on Liquipedia. I actually play Random for all games at the moment, but my strongest race is Protoss so I may main that at a later date.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 17 2011 22:00 GMT
#248
There is a lot of good information there. Good luck and don't be afraid to ladder.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Oilblaze
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada29 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 00:23:03
June 18 2011 00:22 GMT
#249
Hi Team Liquid Community,

I apologize if this isn't the correct forum for this post but I am trying to let people know about a free tournament being held geared towards Starcraft 2 players of every skill level. The website is www.lastplayerstanding.com so you can check it out for yourselves. It is free entry with a $700 CDN prize pool. This is their first tournament and is being kept relatively small (only 32 spots going to the first 32 who register). Players of any skill level are encouraged to join. Registration is taking place now and games are set to begin June 30.

www.lastplayerstanding.com

It has also been submitted to the teamliquid.net tournament tracker so hopefully it will be showing up soon on there as well.

Thanks...


Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 05:48:19
June 18 2011 05:47 GMT
#250
@Oilblaze - Tournaments can be advertised here - SC2 Tournament forums (you can also in here too since this can be for anything SC2 related I think but more people will find it in the SC2 tournament forum section).
______________________________
I have a question (for anyone that knows) - You can add both a EU Starcraft 2 license on your account even if it's NA right?

I go to eu.battle.net (for example) and log in with my na account (which works).

I can just digitally purchase EU version and then download the client + use it to play on Europe server right? (It gave me a warning that I could only connect to the NA server when I was purchasing. Is that supposed to happen? Note it was definitely the EU site since the values were in euro and the site was eu.battle.net).

Also is there any automatic USD to euro conversion with credit card purchase on battle.net?

Finally can purchases be made through paypal?

One more question >.> - How many of you can play on Europe with "noticeable" lag [if so how much approx]? If so are you on US west or east? Now I do remember playing a few Singapore games on WC3 and it wasn't too bad (though it was definitely noticeable).

Any help will be appreciated, thanks .
https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServerFeedback/feedback/details/741495/biggest-explorer-annoyance-automatic-sorting-windows-7-server-2008-r2-and-vista#details Allow Disable Auto Arrange in Windows 7+
Claudia_Kitty
Profile Joined June 2011
Mexico5 Posts
June 18 2011 12:36 GMT
#251
Hi, i know this is an odd question, but does anyone know the name of the song in the INTRO of GSL tournament (June 2011) where theres a computer made bird flying?...
Thank you.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 13:57:58
June 18 2011 13:08 GMT
#252
On June 18 2011 14:47 Goldfish wrote:
@Oilblaze - Tournaments can be advertised here - SC2 Tournament forums (you can also in here too since this can be for anything SC2 related I think but more people will find it in the SC2 tournament forum section).

One more question >.> - How many of you can play on Europe with "noticeable" lag [if so how much approx]? If so are you on US west or east? Now I do remember playing a few Singapore games on WC3 and it wasn't too bad (though it was definitely noticeable).

Any help will be appreciated, thanks .


Yup, thats where tourney ads go.

I don't have a EU account but I did play a few custom 1v1s on a friends account once. I didn't have any lag from Florida (east coast US) to EU server.


I'm looking for the GSL song right now.

Edit: Forgot about it, sorry. Here you go.
On June 18 2011 21:36 Claudia_Kitty wrote:
Hi, i know this is an odd question, but does anyone know the name of the song in the INTRO of GSL tournament (June 2011) where theres a computer made bird flying?...
Thank you.

Youtube video enclosed within spoiler. Sixx: A.M. - This is Gonna Hurt
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(I didn't want to direct embed the video but I didn't know how to just give a link to a youtube video so I spoilered it. I hope thats alright!)
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Uhh Negative
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1090 Posts
June 18 2011 13:48 GMT
#253
On June 18 2011 00:27 Bleak wrote:
Can someone give me three all-in builds for each matchup (one for each) as a Terran player to be used in close positions?

I am losing every game here because whatever I do, it just doesn't work because I'm not an all-in-ish player. I need some all-in builds to just finish these shitty games as fast as possible. Can anyone PM me about it?

All-in builds don't help you learn how to play the game better. They just give you free wins to make you seem like you are getting better until you start playing opponents who actually know how to scout and defend it properly. Then you are stuck knowing basically nothing.

That being said, a good build TvZ that's not all-in is the 2 rax bunker rush build. It's literally being done is almost every single pro TvZ these days. Kinda rediculous because it can win the game outright but if it doesn't you can transition into a 4 rax all-in or expand quickly and the zerg can't scout which one you are doing.
ManicMarine
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia409 Posts
June 18 2011 14:42 GMT
#254
Why don't we see blue flame hellions more in top TvP? They destroy zealots and let you go pure marauder viking to fuck up the rest of the protoss army. I'm gonna be trying a build like this on the ladder, I'll see how it goes. Has anyone else had any experience with this type of play in TvP?
Manic by name, Manic by nature.
GWBuffalo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States234 Posts
June 18 2011 15:08 GMT
#255
On June 17 2011 04:28 -Aura- wrote:
EDIT: Actually, I'm just wrong. When I drag a replay to the Switcher it makes me log in. Anyone know how to do this without logging in?


I found the switcher as well, but it also makes me log in anyway. I remember few months ago you could drag replays onto the regular SC2 executable, and you didn't have to log in. Don't understand why they changed this.
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
June 18 2011 19:40 GMT
#256
Well for the All-in question, as far as I know there is...

- 2 rax bunker rush (vs Zerg)
- 6 rax all in (any)
- 3 rax stim timing (vs Protoss) Although this isn't really an all-in it puts you behind economically.
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37107 Posts
June 18 2011 22:23 GMT
#257
So I was just wondering....

When you get placed in a league, then get placed in the division, who names these divisions? They're like the strangest names ever.
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Zedders
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada450 Posts
June 18 2011 22:27 GMT
#258
I think that the bnet chat windows at the bottom should have different indicators for what was the last thing to happen.

When I click a blinking chat box to see what had happened, and the player has left it's like oh ok. but when you have 90x chatboxes and see that it's annoying.

maybe instead of the blue blink, a red blinking chat box to indicate such.

/rant
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 22:46:29
June 18 2011 22:45 GMT
#259
On June 19 2011 07:23 Seeker wrote:
So I was just wondering....

When you get placed in a league, then get placed in the division, who names these divisions? They're like the strangest names ever.


Unit/Character from Starcraft world + Greek alphabet

It's probably randomly generated when a new division opens up.

Zedders you're on to something there. That problem irrates me as well.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
June 18 2011 22:47 GMT
#260
On June 18 2011 22:48 Uhh Negative wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 00:27 Bleak wrote:
Can someone give me three all-in builds for each matchup (one for each) as a Terran player to be used in close positions?

I am losing every game here because whatever I do, it just doesn't work because I'm not an all-in-ish player. I need some all-in builds to just finish these shitty games as fast as possible. Can anyone PM me about it?

All-in builds don't help you learn how to play the game better. They just give you free wins to make you seem like you are getting better until you start playing opponents who actually know how to scout and defend it properly. Then you are stuck knowing basically nothing.

That being said, a good build TvZ that's not all-in is the 2 rax bunker rush build. It's literally being done is almost every single pro TvZ these days. Kinda rediculous because it can win the game outright but if it doesn't you can transition into a 4 rax all-in or expand quickly and the zerg can't scout which one you are doing.


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