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Sedz
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia123 Posts
June 16 2011 09:29 GMT
#221
On June 16 2011 07:43 tehemperorer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 20:33 Probe1 wrote:
I've never heard anyone say:
If someone 6 pools you 6 pool them
If someone scv marine all ins SCV MARINE ALL IN!!!1!
If someone cannon cheeses you make many cannons in and around their base for ezpz win


The hell kind of...
If they proxy 2 gate you.. you proxy 2 gate at home?

Yeah micro battle, got it. But wouldn't it be wiser to just build a cannon?

No because it's 300 minerals to build a single cannon and about 85 seconds... The other player can just hold back with the zealots, and work towards 4gating the cannoning player because if the cannon is not at the rim of your buildings, stalkers can pick off every building at range 6 until they just overpower you in whatever way they prefer.


It's 150 minerals for a cannon?
AsGSedZ.549
Pochtli
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland690 Posts
June 16 2011 10:05 GMT
#222
On June 16 2011 18:29 Sedz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 07:43 tehemperorer wrote:
On June 14 2011 20:33 Probe1 wrote:
I've never heard anyone say:
If someone 6 pools you 6 pool them
If someone scv marine all ins SCV MARINE ALL IN!!!1!
If someone cannon cheeses you make many cannons in and around their base for ezpz win


The hell kind of...
If they proxy 2 gate you.. you proxy 2 gate at home?

Yeah micro battle, got it. But wouldn't it be wiser to just build a cannon?

No because it's 300 minerals to build a single cannon and about 85 seconds... The other player can just hold back with the zealots, and work towards 4gating the cannoning player because if the cannon is not at the rim of your buildings, stalkers can pick off every building at range 6 until they just overpower you in whatever way they prefer.


It's 150 minerals for a cannon?


150 for forge, 150 for cannon. Also 85 seconds = 45 seconds for forge and 40 seconds for cannon.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 16 2011 12:02 GMT
#223
tehemperorer made a good point and convinced me
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Softboing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States68 Posts
June 16 2011 12:52 GMT
#224
I want to become an SC2 personality, but first, I need a few goals and ideas. Clearly 3 things that I can get started with are casting, doing a show, and streaming, but I don't really have a lot of experience or reputation to instantly draw in a crowd, so instead, I have to figure out some interesting ideas:

Casting - I think my style will be a balance of entertainment and basic analysis. Should I just shoot for joking around or just drumming up energy? What would you like to see a new caster bring to the scene?

Show - I don't really have the credentials to coach or do good analysis (I'm high gold, low platinum), and I don't even have a big history of RTS games. Been with SC2 since Beta, though. Do you think there's some niche content that should be out there?

Stream - Since I'm not a pro, should I just forget about this right now, until I have a reputation? Streaming is a really simple concept, but what do you think could be done differently on streams?
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
June 16 2011 15:24 GMT
#225
In one of the Day9 dailies (I forgot which one) he showed us a programm which could start a Replay without starting SC2. Could anyone tell me the name of that programm?
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 15:49:59
June 16 2011 15:32 GMT
#226
Umm.. I double click replays and it starts SC2. You should just associate replay files with sc2.

Softboing- you should look for another caster to show you the ropes and give you some air time. Most casters have significant knowledge of the game and experience but there are new ones every day. If you can't find a way to immediately stream games then you might want to think about casting replays of pro players and posting them on youtube. I'm sure there is a niche for you somewhere. Best of luck.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
madcow19
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5 Posts
June 16 2011 18:02 GMT
#227
On June 17 2011 00:24 CruelZeratul wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
In one of the Day9 dailies (I forgot which one) he showed us a programm which could start a Replay without starting SC2. Could anyone tell me the name of that programm?


If you go into your Drive:/programfiles/starcraft2 there should be an icon called "Starcraft 2 Dropper" just drag and drop replays onto that there and it'll load right up without you having to log-in.

On June 16 2011 21:52 Softboing wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I want to become an SC2 personality, but first, I need a few goals and ideas. Clearly 3 things that I can get started with are casting, doing a show, and streaming, but I don't really have a lot of experience or reputation to instantly draw in a crowd, so instead, I have to figure out some interesting ideas:

Casting - I think my style will be a balance of entertainment and basic analysis. Should I just shoot for joking around or just drumming up energy? What would you like to see a new caster bring to the scene?

Show - I don't really have the credentials to coach or do good analysis (I'm high gold, low platinum), and I don't even have a big history of RTS games. Been with SC2 since Beta, though. Do you think there's some niche content that should be out there?

Stream - Since I'm not a pro, should I just forget about this right now, until I have a reputation? Streaming is a really simple concept, but what do you think could be done differently on streams?


In the words of Day9, just do it. The more you cast/stream the better/more interesting they'll get and you'll be able to find out exactly what you want to do. Watching pros is really fun, but it would also be awesome to watch someone at your level getting better at the game.

For casting I would just say do what's most comfortable. I really like the energy of Husky, but that's only because he can pull it off so well and doesn't fumble over himself too often. On the other hand you have guys like ForceSC2strategy that's pretty much just analysis.

Just go for it and see what you can do, most importantly be sure to have fun. You can always mix up 1v1, 2v2, funny games, newbie play, interesting strategies, etc. You'll get feedback from the viewers and can adjust your style. Hope that gives you some ideas, thanks for reading.
Even after all this time the sun never says to the earth, "You owe me." Look what happens with a love like that; it lights the whole World.-Hafiz
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 16 2011 18:24 GMT
#228
I wonder what people/tournaments think about programs that basically switch keys around (for example when you click shift it counts as alt and vice versa) and mouse keys? I plan on playing about as seriously as it gets, so I want to make sure I use the best hotkey setup I can when I start.

I'd think that it's fine, despite the fact that this might give an advantage possibly not avaliable to some (particularly the mouse keys), so do many other factors like different gear, bigger monitor or faster computer, but I just want to make sure I don't get used to something not allowed.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
-Aura-
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States209 Posts
June 16 2011 19:13 GMT
#229
On June 17 2011 03:02 madcow19 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 00:24 CruelZeratul wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
In one of the Day9 dailies (I forgot which one) he showed us a programm which could start a Replay without starting SC2. Could anyone tell me the name of that programm?


If you go into your Drive:/programfiles/starcraft2 there should be an icon called "Starcraft 2 Dropper" just drag and drop replays onto that there and it'll load right up without you having to log-in.




I can't find a Starcraft 2 Dropper, did you mean Starcraft 2 Switcher?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Liquid get more Terrans please...
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
June 16 2011 19:27 GMT
#230
On June 17 2011 04:13 -Aura- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 03:02 madcow19 wrote:
On June 17 2011 00:24 CruelZeratul wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
In one of the Day9 dailies (I forgot which one) he showed us a programm which could start a Replay without starting SC2. Could anyone tell me the name of that programm?


If you go into your Drive:/programfiles/starcraft2 there should be an icon called "Starcraft 2 Dropper" just drag and drop replays onto that there and it'll load right up without you having to log-in.




I can't find a Starcraft 2 Dropper, did you mean Starcraft 2 Switcher?


Really? I cannot find neither a Starcraft 2 Dropper or a Starcraft 2 Switcher. I checked in C/Program Files (x86)/Starcraft II and can only find Starcraft II, Starcraft II repair and Starcraft II Public Test Client

EDIT: It's actually located in C/Program Files/Starcraft II/Support (In the case of a 64 bit Windows OS as I'm using, Program Files (x86)) and it's an application called SC2Switcher.

-Aura-
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States209 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 19:31:37
June 16 2011 19:28 GMT
#231
On June 17 2011 04:27 Clbull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 04:13 -Aura- wrote:
On June 17 2011 03:02 madcow19 wrote:
On June 17 2011 00:24 CruelZeratul wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
In one of the Day9 dailies (I forgot which one) he showed us a programm which could start a Replay without starting SC2. Could anyone tell me the name of that programm?


If you go into your Drive:/programfiles/starcraft2 there should be an icon called "Starcraft 2 Dropper" just drag and drop replays onto that there and it'll load right up without you having to log-in.




I can't find a Starcraft 2 Dropper, did you mean Starcraft 2 Switcher?


Really? I cannot find neither a Starcraft 2 Dropper or a Starcraft 2 Switcher. I checked in C/Program Files (x86)/Starcraft II and can only find Starcraft II, Starcraft II repair and Starcraft II Public Test Client

EDIT: It's actually located in C/Program Files/Starcraft II/Support (In the case of a 64 bit Windows OS as I'm using, Program Files (x86)) and it's an application called SC2Switcher.


Knew I wasn't crazy :D

EDIT: Actually, I'm just wrong. When I drag a replay to the Switcher it makes me log in. Anyone know how to do this without logging in?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Liquid get more Terrans please...
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 20:40:46
June 16 2011 20:37 GMT
#232
On June 17 2011 04:28 -Aura- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 04:27 Clbull wrote:
On June 17 2011 04:13 -Aura- wrote:
On June 17 2011 03:02 madcow19 wrote:
On June 17 2011 00:24 CruelZeratul wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
In one of the Day9 dailies (I forgot which one) he showed us a programm which could start a Replay without starting SC2. Could anyone tell me the name of that programm?


If you go into your Drive:/programfiles/starcraft2 there should be an icon called "Starcraft 2 Dropper" just drag and drop replays onto that there and it'll load right up without you having to log-in.




I can't find a Starcraft 2 Dropper, did you mean Starcraft 2 Switcher?


Really? I cannot find neither a Starcraft 2 Dropper or a Starcraft 2 Switcher. I checked in C/Program Files (x86)/Starcraft II and can only find Starcraft II, Starcraft II repair and Starcraft II Public Test Client

EDIT: It's actually located in C/Program Files/Starcraft II/Support (In the case of a 64 bit Windows OS as I'm using, Program Files (x86)) and it's an application called SC2Switcher.


Knew I wasn't crazy :D

EDIT: Actually, I'm just wrong. When I drag a replay to the Switcher it makes me log in. Anyone know how to do this without logging in?


Have you tried it with a replay from a previous version? Or does it still make you log in even then?

EDIT: I've tried it with previous version replays. I think that you don't need to log in then. This is actually awesome because if you try to view previous version replays when you have the game client itself opened up then you are basically forced to log out and then log back in once the replay is done.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 16 2011 20:41 GMT
#233
What I've learned from Day9 is you can make a folder inside of your default replay folders and add multiple replays there (so you can watch in game without exiting)
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
June 16 2011 20:43 GMT
#234
I'd like to follow this up with a question of my own.

Are there any SC2 replay sites that let you upload replay packs? I want to upload a few but don't want to use typical download sites like MegaUpload or Rapidshare (I don't really like those sites for different reasons.)

It just feels like a hassle to individually upload each replay to a site like ReplayFu or SC2Replayed.
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
June 16 2011 21:25 GMT
#235
Does anyone know where or if you can change the box you make with your mouse ingame? I would like it to be like it is in BW:
[image loading]

It annoys the hell out of me in SC2 how the whole box is just green.
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Chakra13
Profile Joined February 2011
United States10 Posts
June 16 2011 21:26 GMT
#236
On June 16 2011 21:52 Softboing wrote:
I want to become an SC2 personality, but first, I need a few goals and ideas. Clearly 3 things that I can get started with are casting, doing a show, and streaming, but I don't really have a lot of experience or reputation to instantly draw in a crowd, so instead, I have to figure out some interesting ideas:

Casting - I think my style will be a balance of entertainment and basic analysis. Should I just shoot for joking around or just drumming up energy? What would you like to see a new caster bring to the scene?

Show - I don't really have the credentials to coach or do good analysis (I'm high gold, low platinum), and I don't even have a big history of RTS games. Been with SC2 since Beta, though. Do you think there's some niche content that should be out there?

Stream - Since I'm not a pro, should I just forget about this right now, until I have a reputation? Streaming is a really simple concept, but what do you think could be done differently on streams?


Hey for deciding what style of casting you should do, the more you experiment with casting the quicker you should realize which style you're more comfortable with; casting should come naturally so don't force a style you don't feel comfortable with or don't even like, do what you want

But IMO you want to play the game more and learn a bit before casting, otherwise you'll be going off pure play-by-play which isn't too good if you're solo-casting :\

I think it would be interesting to watch almost like a diary-style series of videos where you progress from the lower leagues to Diamond then Master; maybe others having the same issues as you can relate and then see how you fix them?
shin ken
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Germany614 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 09:25:28
June 16 2011 22:34 GMT
#237
EDIT Question wasn't answered.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 00:15:04
June 16 2011 22:45 GMT
#238
Not that I know of Clbull.


Newish interview with Dustin/Kim on HotS and balancing. I die a little inside every time I hear them talk about the game.Link here.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37107 Posts
June 17 2011 04:11 GMT
#239
You know, I've constantly been asking myself time and time again, "why are the minerals in every single sc2 map so spread apart?"

And then SUDDENLY, I came to a realization, (whether Blizzard intentionally did this or not,) the minerals being far apart actually PREVENTS opponent Protosses from doing manner pylons....

Manner Pylon = building a pylon in between the mineral paths and workers so that workers can't mine properly and will often block a worker in between the tiny spaces in the minerals

You guys think Blizzard KNEW about this? Or was it just done?
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
June 17 2011 09:32 GMT
#240
It's a pretty deep subject. The minimal mining distance between the rocks and your cc/nex/hatch has more to do with it than stopping bm pylons.
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