EPTMature language is what should be the least of your worries imo.
Casting Language Standards - Page 31
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CombineWithMe
4 Posts
Mature language is what should be the least of your worries imo. | ||
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Omlas
Hungary43 Posts
On June 03 2011 05:54 CombineWithMe wrote: This is rather interesting and rage inducing. You say that you want to protect your 12 year old and 8 year old from violent or offensive language; but correct me if I'm wrong. Starcraft II is in fact, a 16 rated game. So surely you should expect the language if you allow your children to watch a 16 rated game which is solely focused on violence and trying to kill your opponent. Mature language is what should be the least of your worries imo. this. but i guess being a good parent is harder than trust companys to raise your kid. | ||
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archonOOid
1983 Posts
The reason for a PEGI 16 years old labelling is: "This rating is applied once the depiction of violence (or sexual activity) reaches a stage that looks the same as would be expected in real life. More extreme bad language, the concept of the use of tobacco and drugs and the depiction of criminal activities can be content of games that are rated 16." Okay, streamers and casters should therefore warn viewers for violence, in line with PEGI labelling and if their vocabulary stems from a criminal steel worker, bad language. They could use the existing icons from the PEGI labelling to inform viewers. | ||
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Eknoid4
United States902 Posts
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Sideburn
United States442 Posts
On May 25 2011 03:28 TotalBiscuit wrote: On the subject of the, well subject. Swearing while as far as I'm concerned, irrelevant, doesn't add anything to a broadcast and usuall indicates a lack of diverse vocabulary on the part of the person using it. It doesn't have any place in broadcast sports, e or otherwise. I think this bears repeating. People desperately trying to turn this into a "LOL AMERICANS SO STUPID AND SHELTERED" issue when it reality casting does not benefit at all from vulgarity. Use of swearing isn't often for 'emphasis' or 'passion' as people want to say, but really just shows a lack of intelligence and vocabulary. | ||
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Eknoid4
United States902 Posts
On June 03 2011 08:47 Sideburn wrote: I think this bears repeating. People desperately trying to turn this into a "LOL AMERICANS SO STUPID AND SHELTERED" issue when it reality casting does not benefit at all from vulgarity. Use of swearing isn't often for 'emphasis' or 'passion' as people want to say, but really just shows a lack of intelligence and vocabulary. casting does not benefit at all from obscure jokes between casters, but they happen. Saying it doesn't benefit is a complete nonsequitur, it's a right of the people talking and by extension a right for all of us to hold on to. In casting people really don't swear very much as it is and, like has been said before, this game is for 16+ so if you introduce an 8-12 year old, that's your fault, not the game's. Also, if you can't handle words, you need to grow up, too. | ||
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VillageBC
322 Posts
On June 03 2011 11:08 Eknoid4 wrote: In casting people really don't swear very much as it is and, like has been said before, this game is for 16+ so if you introduce an 8-12 year old, that's your fault, not the game's. Also, if you can't handle words, you need to grow up, too. Why does the rating of the game matter? The content of the cast can be completely unrelated to the game rating itself. It can be vulgar, R rated or completely G rated. Not all of us are in a secluded shielded man den and have children, family other people around and perhaps just perhaps we don't want to hear it anyway. The audio is heard by more people then are watching, so the language of the cast does matter. | ||
VTPerfect
United States487 Posts
my guess is that if one of your boys said a "bad word" he would be shunned in his community. | ||
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Trentelshark
Canada385 Posts
On June 03 2011 06:19 Eknoid4 wrote: So you don't let your kids listen to the radio or watch TV? because the language there is just as bad! Ya except for the ridiculous censorship which is still around today. Censor media, kid walks out of the house and hears someone drop the f-bomb...so much for that  . | ||
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Eknoid4
United States902 Posts
On June 03 2011 11:13 VillageBC wrote: Why does the rating of the game matter? The content of the cast can be completely unrelated to the game rating itself. It can be vulgar, R rated or completely G rated. Not all of us are in a secluded shielded man den and have children, family other people around and perhaps just perhaps we don't want to hear it anyway. The audio is heard by more people then are watching, so the language of the cast does matter. because the cast is for the game. You wouldn't expect a commentary of a rated NC-17 movie to be PG would you? Most people aren't secluded shielded man den. I'm certainly not. I did invest in a pair of headphones about 10 years ago and have been replacing them ever since. This wasn't even for bad reasons. My family had a computer room and we all played games together. There was too much sound for speakers. Headphones is a good idea and if your only reason is the sound bleeding it, I'd say you invest in some. 20-30 dollars for a decent pair is only a couple GSLs worth of money. Then again, you could just get a secluded shielded man den. Perhaps just perhaps you don't need to be so uptight about words other people are saying. | ||
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Eknoid4
United States902 Posts
On June 03 2011 11:48 Trentelshark wrote: Ya except for the ridiculous censorship which is still around today. Censor media, kid walks out of the house and hears someone drop the f-bomb...so much for that .No, they can say most swear words on the radio now. | ||
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Trentelshark
Canada385 Posts
On June 03 2011 13:07 Eknoid4 wrote: No, they can say most swear words on the radio now. I suppose, but there is still a level of censorhip for some words, as well as what the discussion pretains to. Satellite radio on the other hand has abosolutely none but the DJs do use discretion obviously . | ||
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
On June 03 2011 08:47 Sideburn wrote: I think this bears repeating. People desperately trying to turn this into a "LOL AMERICANS SO STUPID AND SHELTERED" issue when it reality casting does not benefit at all from vulgarity. Use of swearing isn't often for 'emphasis' or 'passion' as people want to say, but really just shows a lack of intelligence and vocabulary. Swear words are some of the most linguistically rich words in the entire English language. The stigma attached to them is stupid. As lexical items, they're almost unmatched in utility. Swear words are fucking awesome. | ||
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sTsCompleted
United States380 Posts
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saer
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Falling
Canada11607 Posts
I know for myself, if I learn the 'bad' words in another language, they don't seem like such a big deal. There's little cultural context and the only reason why I know they're bad is someone has told me. In addition, curse words are generally the first words one learns in another language. | ||
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Rabiator
Germany3948 Posts
Pointing at the game rating and saying that it isnt for kids is just using the letter of the law to defeat the spirit of the law. Swearing, cursing, aggressing terms and phrases like STFU, demeaning terms all dont make a cast better ... they only point out the limited abilities of the caster and his "Peter Pan desire" to be a 13 year old kid which thinks it can fly. Using words like fuck and nigger and whatever else might let you sound like a 13 year old cool kid on the block, but the older you really are the less intelligent you seem as well. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
Censorship is the worst, do what you want yo. Conversely if you wanna ~better yourself~ and remove certain words to make yourself feel like ~the bigger person~ go for it. Stop worrying about what other people do / try to get you to do, and decide for yourself which way you want to go. | ||
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nohbrows
United States653 Posts
That being said, I think that the level of professionalism in major tournaments must be held up to a high standard. Commentators in sports such as basketball and football and soccer retain a rather high level of professionalism while retaining their level of enthusiasm for the sport--in fact, sometimes they become shining examples of good rhetoric in whichever language the commentator the is speaking in. But to the OP, I think that it is a balance of one's one parenting values and the values of casters. In addition, one must take into account that the game's intended audience are those who are 13 and over(at least in the United States) and therefore one can reasonably expect that the community of players will be most likely those who have heard swear words in their lifetime and is either not bothered by it or can handled it maturely. But I like how you are introducing Starcraft to the younger generation of new players! | ||
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