EPTCasting Language Standards - Page 33
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
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bovineblitz
United States314 Posts
On June 16 2011 15:47 karpo wrote: I just feel that americans use "like" and "fucking" with no real purpose. "Fucking this", "Fucking that", "My fucking bla bal". You could easily remove those words and every sentence would be just as understandable and sound alot more pleasing. (at least to me). Fucking Americans. All the same. | ||
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Jesushooves
Canada553 Posts
On June 16 2011 15:47 karpo wrote: I just feel that americans use "like" and "fucking" with no real purpose. "Fucking this", "Fucking that", "My fucking bla bal". You could easily remove those words and every sentence would be just as understandable and sound alot more pleasing. (at least to me). Interesting that a swede would say that about swears, from what I have heard Europeans simply don't give a fuck about swears. "I'm swedish, deal wit it." | ||
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
On June 16 2011 15:47 karpo wrote: I just feel that americans use "like" and "fucking" with no real purpose. "Fucking this", "Fucking that", "My fucking bla bal". You could easily remove those words and every sentence would be just as understandable and sound alot more pleasing. (at least to me). yeah. or just find more mature ways of explaining yourself. | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
I'm not saying all americans but it seems to be a cultural thing amongst american teens and young adults. | ||
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karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On June 16 2011 15:55 Jesushooves wrote: Interesting that a swede would say that about swears, from what I have heard Europeans simply don't give a fuck about swears. "I'm swedish, deal wit it." I have no problem with swears and foul language. I don't really enjoy language where swears are just put into every sentence with no purpose. Just look at brittish comedians or panel shows, they use "offensive language" but only in certain situations for added effect. | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On June 16 2011 16:12 karpo wrote: I have no problem with swears and foul language. I don't really enjoy language where swears are just put into every sentence with no purpose. Just look at brittish comedians or panel shows, they use "offensive language" but only in certain situations for added effect. I'm sorry, what is this thread of discussion than, the point of use words like fuck or any expletives, it can be useful for emphasis, while I feel it's not entirely appropriate in most casts, I don't think it's a big deal if there's one or two. As long as the profanity isn't diminishing the quality of the cast and if it is, it's not because of the nature of profanity itself but likely the excessive use of it. Most of the swearing in casts isn't even memorable unless you're actively looking to hear it. | ||
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WyrdWolf
United States17 Posts
I know you want to think of them as professional casters in a professional environment, but let's be honest. They're bros. We're all bros. Swearing is going to happen. | ||
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xrebelx
Canada24 Posts
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Pragmalice
United States7 Posts
... Keep in mind that the underpinnings of this argument are in terms of "growing the e-sports community" and establishing some degree of mainstream legitimacy to the extent that such a thing is possible. If that isn't a goal you want to buy into, then by all means be as individualistic, vulgar, shocking, sensationalist, etc. that you want to be. Kudos. However, recognize that anyone that does buy into that goal will have a vested interest in downplaying or marginalizing you despite any other contributions you may provide to the community. ... Case in point. I'm not typically an "I told you so" kind of person, but love or hate Destiny, and regardless of your personal views on vulgarity, this is just how the game is played... at least in the US where corporations / large organizations / and big time investors typically consider public vulgarity to be un-professional. | ||
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Absentia
United Kingdom973 Posts
In fact I can't even remember the last time I heard a popular caster drop an F-bomb or anything like that. I'm not a GSL watcher so I only have a limited idea of what Artosis and Tasteless are capable of, but their MLG coverage was absolutely outstanding. They were both extremely funny without vulgarity or immaturity as well as providing excellent coverage of the games. Day9 and DjWheat, though lacking some of the humour that Artosis and Tasteless provided, easily delivered on content without the need for vulgarity or immaturity. Personally I welcome humour into casting, (as an option not an obligation) but I don't see why it needs to consist of innuendos and/or bad language. Furthermore, it seems unnecessary to have to use bad language to convey any substantial point in casting. | ||
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algorithm0r
Canada486 Posts
On June 23 2011 23:40 Pragmalice wrote: Quoting myself from a few pages back: Case in point. I'm not typically an "I told you so" kind of person, but love or hate Destiny, and regardless of your personal views on vulgarity, this is just how the game is played... at least in the US where corporations / large organizations / and big time investors typically consider public vulgarity to be un-professional. His release had nothing to do with language... Don't spread false shit. Read the TL thread before you post crap like this. | ||
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JadedShock
United States90 Posts
On June 16 2011 15:47 karpo wrote: I just feel that americans use "like" and "fucking" with no real purpose. "Fucking this", "Fucking that", "My fucking bla bal". You could easily remove those words and every sentence would be just as understandable and sound alot more pleasing. (at least to me). I've been to other countries and there's always a curse word that is overly used in my experience. In Greece, it's malaka, in England it's bloody (but that's now a "cutesy" phrase IMO). Perhaps Americans have taken to the f-word too naturally but I'm not as phased by its use as I am by other derogatory words. | ||
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Vogin
Czech Republic926 Posts
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HuskyMUDKIPZ
228 Posts
On June 24 2011 00:00 algorithm0r wrote: His release had nothing to do with language... Don't spread false shit. Read the TL thread before you post crap like this. If you read the thread then you would know that what you just posted is false. Later in the thread they mention that they wanted him to tone down the racist and homophobic comments. | ||
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gosuMalicE
Canada676 Posts
On June 16 2011 15:47 karpo wrote: I just feel that americans use "like" and "fucking" with no real purpose. "Fucking this", "Fucking that", "My fucking bla bal". You could easily remove those words and every sentence would be just as understandable and sound alot more pleasing. (at least to me). Well.... In my experience my euro friends would swear as much as anyone, just not in English usually. But still is is kind of ridiculous to single out Americans as the sole users of so called "Foul language". | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5256 Posts
On June 16 2011 16:06 karpo wrote: I'm not saying all americans but it seems to be a cultural thing amongst american teens and young adults. no ur stereotyping buddy and looking quite ignorant. besides, are you saying that in other countries the youth never speak a foul word? | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
Among adults with careers, swearing is generally seen as rather immature and low brow, something that only comes out among mature adults during moments of extreme anger. Teenagers and men in their 20s are the worst offenders for swearing, and they as a group are also the most immature group of people. The arguments FOR swearing are very weak, and come down to "I can say whatever I want", which isn't true because when you're in the public eye you should follow basic social ettiquette and not use disrepectful and derogatory language. You never need the words, there are a wide range of much more nuanced expressive words available. | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On June 23 2011 12:51 xrebelx wrote: why should casters change their language/style for the lowest common denominator? most people watching pro sc2 aren't children. One could argue that the lowest common denominator in the arena of language are the people who swear all the time without any good reason and don't know how to express themselves without swearing. | ||
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HuskyMUDKIPZ
228 Posts
On June 24 2011 04:05 Zzoram wrote: One could argue that the lowest common denominator in the arena of language are the people who swear all the time without any good reason and don't know how to express themselves without swearing. Then argue it. He has stated that the lowest common denominator watching competitive sc2 is children which makes sense because of the rating on the game. All you have stated is that you could argue a certain way, you haven't actually argued anything. | ||
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