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On January 18 2013 01:52 Nanoko wrote:
To everyone saying Slasher is in the wrong because "It was EG's Story not his, he stole hype, he ruined the announcement, he stole money from Eg." Etc, Etc.

It's Not Slasher's Problem. Period. During the show he said, and I quote, "I am not beholden to any league, or company, or team" That is all he had to say, EG doesn't pay him, he is paid to break news. So yeah, ok, EG CAN make a better announcement then him sure, but so what? they can't even keep the INFORMATION under wraps.You'd think if it was worth so much they wouldn't, oh I don't know, let it get leaked so easily? People really think it's Slashers fault for publishing a story he got from outside sources. Are We being Real right now? So what? he's supposed to sit on information that is already public for someone else to report on? Real?

Alex Garfield should be ashamed, absolutely ashamed, for his childish behaviour on ITG. I cannot believe, cannot believe, that people actually think anything he said had any legitimacy whatsoever. I mean aside for attempting to make Slasher look like the big "E-Sports traitor" and vilifying him he went on to say that his articles were poorly made? So if Slasher had done a longer, more "professional" article it would be Okay?

Moral of the story: If you have some piece of information worth a ton of fucking money, maybe spend some of that money, on keeping it a fucking secret until you want to announce it?

I am so incredibly disappointed, ashamed, and saddened by this inexcusable display. I really thought EG was better than that.

On January 18 2013 02:21 bonifaceviii wrote:
EG is not equivalent to esports.

On January 18 2013 02:21 bonifaceviii wrote:
EG is not equivalent to esports.

On January 18 2013 02:30 crms wrote:


It's kind of funny people make this leap, no offense to EG but if EG completely died tomorrow, esports would continue. Of course we don't want that, they are a major team and support a lot of players and tournaments.

The best part about all of this is the scale and personal relationship we 'feel' we have with these companies likes EG. Companies try to manipulate the media all the time in real life, or even own media outlets that tailor stories, report half truths and make sure the company always looks good. This (rightfully so) is seen as FUCKING TERRIBLE in real life, but EG (a company) trying to strongarm the press (Slasher) seems to be ok, because it's esports!!

Really funny and highly ironic. You can agree or disagree with what Slasher does but I don't want any corporate entity (esports or otherwise) controlling or manipulating the media. It's messy enough TL is the information superhub for SC2 and also one of the most popular teams. Thankfully TL does a great job of staying out of drama pieces and mostly focuses on tournament results etc.

On January 18 2013 02:37 Plansix wrote:


Slasher works Gamespot, which is owned by CBS Interactive, a branch of CBS Broadcasting Inc. He works the works for one of the largest corporate entities in broadcast media and they oversee and approve any of his stories.

Also, Nazgul posted his response, which is pretty close to what EG said, just a lot calmer.

Link TL is pretty much on a similar page to EG on this subject, which is that Slasher's leaks hurt their bottom line and it damages their relationship.

On January 18 2013 02:31 Zealos wrote:

No, but if teams can't support themselves as their views are being leeched by journalist sites, then there won't be a great deal of esports to report on. Obviously this is taking it to the extreme, but the point is still relevant.

On January 18 2013 02:50 crms wrote:



Right and CBSi has no stake in EG. Perhaps if Slasher tries to right inflamtory pieces on CBS owned product he could have some trouble. Really for what I'm trying to say you can replace EG and Slasher for anyone. The media shouldn't care if reporting the news hurts a corporations profits. We would never think this was OK in the 'real world' and when we see it happening (ALL THE TIME) we lose confidence in our media producers. Does anyone really value CNN/FOX or MSNBC anymore? They've all been bought out a long time ago.

Esports isn't a charity, and to be treated as such only hurts our community moving forward. Journalist will report, teams will have to deal with this to survive. Right now it's so small scale that we can have these discussions but setting the precedent early that it would be ok for corporations to manipulate journalists is not something we should champion.

On January 17 2013 19:33 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:

Slasher on the one hand wants to use Liquid for information supply, as well as work with us officially on interviews and other content. Yet, on the other hand he will look for leaks outside of my organization that will impact me negatively upon releasing the information. I view this as poor relationship management. I don't think it works like that anywhere, neither here nor in other sports.

On January 18 2013 03:21 Me jan wrote:
The responsability of holding information lies at the teams table, and the responsability of reporting to the viewers lies at the journalist. If a team is gonna make an announcement and put money in to it, they should protect that information. That is their business and no one elses. If they are not able to protect the information, well they are undermining their own business.

I wish they would accept responsability of that and don't blam journalists. Or make a new term on what a journalist is in the eSports scene, what was discussed was jounali-sh, wich is no makeing the scene any more legitimate.

On January 18 2013 02:24 Bumblebee wrote:
No, it is not the team's fault that it leaks. It's something we're not in control over. There are too many people that needs to be involved in player transfers and stuff alike for the team to have control over the situation -- nor do they really control the people who knows. Things such as the team the player comes from, the other bidding teams and tournaments who need to be informed ahead of time in order to secure spots/book/pay for things.

An example is that I had personally informed EG, IPL and IEM about Snute prior to the announcement since if I want Snute to play in SC2L or IPTL, I need to do that. Snute also came from another team and there were other bidders who also knew of our situation. There's just too many people who you don't have power over or control of.

On January 18 2013 01:57 BlackPearl wrote:


The people dissapointed by EG's CEO should really start emailing the sponsors. That's the only way he'll apologize, or regret his actions is if we take away his allowance. : )

On January 18 2013 03:23 Zealos wrote:

Cross posted from Nazguls blog:

It's not as simple as just "protecting" it.