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Callandor
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia57 Posts
January 17 2013 06:25 GMT
#8721
Hey guys,

Has hashbaz stopped uploading the mp3 files?
Rezudox
Profile Joined July 2012
207 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 09:25:40
January 17 2013 09:19 GMT
#8722
I put the mp3's into the thread.

All of my uploads are listed here: Inside The Game / Live On Three

I also put them on my twitter. (@Rezudox)
BobLobIaw
Profile Joined April 2012
Oman142 Posts
January 17 2013 09:33 GMT
#8723
On January 17 2013 12:43 Basher_ wrote:
PC Gamer editorial on the Slasher discussion on last night's show. Totally agree. Journalists' responsibility is to their readers. They don't work for EG. Its that simple. If they have a scoop, they publish it, before another journalist does.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/01/16/editorial-does-esports-understand-journalism/


Great article, really spot on. If you haven't read it, read it.
KIM TAEK YONG HWAITING! Bisu[Shield] <3
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 17 2013 10:00 GMT
#8724
In the NHL, if a player is going to get traded or signed, you hear about it from Bob Mckenzie. That's just the way it works.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
thuracine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States582 Posts
January 17 2013 10:56 GMT
#8725
so who lost? slashers early announcements hasn't hurt eg. it is win win both are being discussed, "there is no such thing as bad publicity"
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
January 17 2013 11:01 GMT
#8726
On January 17 2013 19:56 thuracine wrote:
so who lost?


ESPORTS, obviously.
Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
January 17 2013 11:02 GMT
#8727
On January 17 2013 19:56 thuracine wrote:
so who lost? slashers early announcements hasn't hurt eg. it is win win both are being discussed, "there is no such thing as bad publicity"

Of course there's bad publicity, there's countless examples of such. Bad cliches are bad.
thuracine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States582 Posts
January 17 2013 11:11 GMT
#8728
On January 17 2013 20:01 Broodwurst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 19:56 thuracine wrote:
so who lost?


ESPORTS, obviously.


but isn't that what everyone is arguing about? this is good, people arguing about esports showing there passion troll or not they care in some way.
Stayback
Profile Joined May 2012
Norway9 Posts
January 17 2013 11:48 GMT
#8729
Feels like a lot of people criticising Alex Garfield did not see ITG. Let me explain how I understood what happened. First of all Slasher said before Alex came on that he thought that the teams did not mind him telling everyone player signings. Then they invited Alex on to hear his view. He then explained tha

1. t Slasher could not announce the player better than teams because they had a whole team preparing a big announcement, so its not better for the viewer.
2. It's not better for teams because it removes hype and then the teams get less views and less exposure to the sponsors wher 99% of the revenue come from.
3. It do not add any extra information to the viewers because Slasher does not do any real journalism around the news.


Then alex asked Slasher if it wouldn't be better for everyone if he waited until EG/teams announced the signing and then Slasher could used the EG videos etc. on his page, and add extra value with interviews, analysis, etc.Slasher responded with not answering the question, and then he refused to talk about or understand any of the points made by Alex, and he did not want to do anything different if he had another chance. The conclusion of this was that Alex then said that in the future his team and a lot of otter teams would not talk to slasher since he is only thinking about himself, and not cooperating with the community to find the best solution for everyone.

My thoughts about this is that I ratter want to see the announcement from the team and not from slashers tweets or someone posting the tweet on forums etc. For example I loved the Thorzain video,and especially since it came as a big surprise. I do also want to read an interview with for example JaeDong or Alex after EG signed Jeadong. Why slasher don't want to provide this for me is very strange. And when he compare a interview like this with an interview from a tournament it is not at all the same. I think a lot more people would read the interview with Jeadong after he signed, rather than Idra on IPL5. Just as an example. So come on Slasher , talk with the teams and find the solution that's best for everyone.
BlacklistEG
Profile Joined January 2013
Afghanistan2 Posts
January 17 2013 13:08 GMT
#8730
im pretty sure im all in for blacklisting eg
allah ahkbar
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
January 17 2013 14:12 GMT
#8731
Now I want to buy Alex Garfield a drink and scold totalbiscuit.
iamtheoneneo
Profile Joined April 2011
144 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 14:23:48
January 17 2013 14:15 GMT
#8732
On January 17 2013 20:11 thuracine wrote:

but isn't that what everyone is arguing about? this is good, people arguing about esports showing there passion troll or not they care in some way.


I think people are more concerned on how EGWheat's shows are quickly becoming a ground for various EG members to gang up on an individual in the hope to prove their utterly worthless points. (and the fact that he thought LO3 was a good show this week just astounds me)

Alex needs to sort his team and attitude out, because both stink pretty hard at the moment.
SXGCoil
Profile Joined February 2012
United States341 Posts
January 17 2013 14:54 GMT
#8733
On January 17 2013 23:15 iamtheoneneo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 20:11 thuracine wrote:

but isn't that what everyone is arguing about? this is good, people arguing about esports showing there passion troll or not they care in some way.


I think people are more concerned on how EGWheat's shows are quickly becoming a ground for various EG members to gang up on an individual in the hope to prove their utterly worthless points. (and the fact that he thought LO3 was a good show this week just astounds me)

Alex needs to sort his team and attitude out, because both stink pretty hard at the moment.

Wow, People are STILL thinking this was a gang up in any way? Wheat never said his opinion and just facilitated. The players barely spoke. It was Alex and then TB, no one else. Get real.
You're the one making drama out of nothing by calling it a gang-up.
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
January 17 2013 15:16 GMT
#8734
why is eg mad at slasher??? he got his information from other sources??? so shouldn't they be mad at these "other sources" instead of the press? ridiculous...
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
January 17 2013 15:33 GMT
#8735
On January 17 2013 23:54 Brawny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2013 23:15 iamtheoneneo wrote:
On January 17 2013 20:11 thuracine wrote:

but isn't that what everyone is arguing about? this is good, people arguing about esports showing there passion troll or not they care in some way.


I think people are more concerned on how EGWheat's shows are quickly becoming a ground for various EG members to gang up on an individual in the hope to prove their utterly worthless points. (and the fact that he thought LO3 was a good show this week just astounds me)

Alex needs to sort his team and attitude out, because both stink pretty hard at the moment.

Wow, People are STILL thinking this was a gang up in any way? Wheat never said his opinion and just facilitated. The players barely spoke. It was Alex and then TB, no one else. Get real.
You're the one making drama out of nothing by calling it a gang-up.

Indeed. In fact Alex specifically asked his players to remain silent during his exchange with Slasher.
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
January 17 2013 15:36 GMT
#8736
I think EG made up for all the publicity they lost due to Slasher's leak with this whole manufactured drama.

Well played, Garfield.
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
Zhazulo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden226 Posts
January 17 2013 15:42 GMT
#8737
On January 17 2013 20:48 Stayback wrote:
Feels like a lot of people criticising Alex Garfield did not see ITG. Let me explain how I understood what happened. First of all Slasher said before Alex came on that he thought that the teams did not mind him telling everyone player signings. Then they invited Alex on to hear his view. He then explained tha

1. t Slasher could not announce the player better than teams because they had a whole team preparing a big announcement, so its not better for the viewer.
2. It's not better for teams because it removes hype and then the teams get less views and less exposure to the sponsors wher 99% of the revenue come from.
3. It do not add any extra information to the viewers because Slasher does not do any real journalism around the news.


Then alex asked Slasher if it wouldn't be better for everyone if he waited until EG/teams announced the signing and then Slasher could used the EG videos etc. on his page, and add extra value with interviews, analysis, etc.Slasher responded with not answering the question, and then he refused to talk about or understand any of the points made by Alex, and he did not want to do anything different if he had another chance. The conclusion of this was that Alex then said that in the future his team and a lot of otter teams would not talk to slasher since he is only thinking about himself, and not cooperating with the community to find the best solution for everyone.

My thoughts about this is that I ratter want to see the announcement from the team and not from slashers tweets or someone posting the tweet on forums etc. For example I loved the Thorzain video,and especially since it came as a big surprise. I do also want to read an interview with for example JaeDong or Alex after EG signed Jeadong. Why slasher don't want to provide this for me is very strange. And when he compare a interview like this with an interview from a tournament it is not at all the same. I think a lot more people would read the interview with Jeadong after he signed, rather than Idra on IPL5. Just as an example. So come on Slasher , talk with the teams and find the solution that's best for everyone.



These are my thoughts exactly. Well summarized. Good to see someone else not immediatly devilizing EG, which is easy to do, if you haven't watched the show....
sword_siege
Profile Joined September 2002
United States624 Posts
January 17 2013 15:46 GMT
#8738
On January 17 2013 18:19 Rezudox wrote:
I put the mp3's into the thread.

All of my uploads are listed here: Inside The Game / Live On Three

I also put them on my twitter. (@Rezudox)


You are the man Rezudox. Thank you for doing this for the community!
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
January 17 2013 16:14 GMT
#8739
On January 18 2013 00:16 Malgrif wrote:
why is eg mad at slasher??? he got his information from other sources??? so shouldn't they be mad at these "other sources" instead of the press? ridiculous...

They're mad at Slasher because "he only does things that benefit himself and nobody else in esports". This is coming from Alex Garfield, the CEO of the team that's known for buying all their talent. This is coming from the team which poached Puma. Did they think about TSL when they did it? Did they think about esports? No, they were like "you didn't make him sign a contract, fuck you, we're signing him". It's so ridiculous to see them on a EG show, with 3 EG players, all wearing Siberia headphones and drinking Monster at regular intervals, and hearing Alex rage at Slasher because "he only does things which benefit himself and not anybody else".
I don't understand how someone with that kind of mentality is the CEO of the most successful team in esports.
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3575 Posts
January 17 2013 16:17 GMT
#8740
On January 18 2013 01:14 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 00:16 Malgrif wrote:
why is eg mad at slasher??? he got his information from other sources??? so shouldn't they be mad at these "other sources" instead of the press? ridiculous...

They're mad at Slasher because "he only does things that benefit himself and nobody else in esports". This is coming from Alex Garfield, the CEO of the team that's known for buying all their talent. This is coming from the team which poached Puma. Did they think about TSL when they did it? Did they think about esports? No, they were like "you didn't make him sign a contract, fuck you, we're signing him". It's so ridiculous to see them on a EG show, with 3 EG players, all wearing Siberia headphones and drinking Monster at regular intervals, and hearing Alex rage at Slasher because "he only does things which benefit himself and not anybody else".
I don't understand how someone with that kind of mentality is the CEO of the most successful team in esports.

You just seem to mindlessly hate EG for whatever reason. It was their announcement to make, not his. Quite frankly, if I have to chose between a journalist getting the money to stay afloat, or an actual team, I would always side with the team.

The idea that you're bashing them for promoting their sponsors is laughable, which is why they are running 2 team houses and you aren't.
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