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On January 17 2013 11:29 nmetasch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 11:26 M,J,Y wrote:On January 17 2013 11:21 nmetasch wrote:
Can anyone say what slasher leaked? I missed it... To go into more detail, he leaked on twitter Jaedong was going to EG a while back. Then again with Stephano and a Axiom player. Points were made that JD and Stephano would carry their own hype regardless and Axiom was planned by TB for hype ( 100% worked) He also lazily leaked Snute going to TL and which pissed of Victor ( according to Alex ) and killed the hype. Why is it just coming up now? Those are all a week to weeks to months old..
Garfield is mad that information leaked and they did not get the hits on their site for their sponsors. Therefore the sponsors did not get what they requested of EG most likely.
As Carmac said, "If Slasher broke a story on an announcement I was preparing, I would be very angry as well. With myself.".
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On January 17 2013 11:30 S_SienZ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 11:26 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:25 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:23 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:20 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:15 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:11 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:10 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:07 S_SienZ wrote:
What Slasher does only encourages teams to enforce rules where players are prohibited from talking to journalists and throw out NDAs and embargoes. So lets say Slasher doesn't do it anymore. Someone will take his place and do what he used to do. People would pounce at the opportunity for the hits. It is that simple. That someone would first have to get to a position of Slasher, get the trust of people in the industry before being actually capable of leaking. 1 news leak and the industry shuns him, he's done. If someone actually wants to burn a bridge like that, especially in such a tight knit community, so be it. That's not how the real world works. There are many people who would fill Slasher's role if he was not around. What bridge did he burn? EG fucked up and they are trying to pass the buck. All that is happening is that EG looks like assholes. Whoever gave Slasher the information said it was okay to leak. Bottom Line: EG does their job this never happens. How the world outside eSports works isn't relevant. This is how eSports has worked thus far. What bridge did he burn? Do you realise how difficult it would be to do eSports journalism if you were boycotted by every team?? You won't be able to do anything aside from opinion articles, match recaps and quoted chunks of interviews done by OTHER journalists. You won't be able to produce any piece of work that is worth reading to a reader. So the next guy comes around and does what Slasher does. Then he gets boycotted and it keeps going. SOMEONE will always do what Slasher does. If there is profit to be made, someone will perform the action that will receive such profit. How the world outside e-sports matters, as more money comes in the market grows and becomes like most other markets out there. Doing eSports journalism is tough enough to make money as it is. Throwing your entire career in the industry away just for a couple extra hits on ONE piece of news is incredibly stupid. Which is why Slasher didn't do that. He did not get the information from EG and they did not give him the information based on the fact that they could break the story first. He found out from a third party. Read what Carmac said because it is the truth. He has no obligation to EG in this instance and anyone thinking that he does is misguided. EG does not own the information at that point. I'm not talking at all about obligation. I'm completely aware that what Slasher did, he's entitled to do. I'm saying that Slasher is doing neither himself or the industry (moreso for up and coming journalists) any long term favours.
If anything this incident will cause the scene to mature to normal practices within markets.
It will cause the stories released by Slasher to increase in quality as stated on LO3 and maybe teams will hold information more dearly and do their job.
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On January 17 2013 11:24 MuseMike wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 11:22 M,J,Y wrote:
Muse you should know that leaked info can come from anywhere and be not EG ( in this example) fault at all, A ilp or a mlg slipping in a players new team with their name or what have you.
But getting back to my point, in the real world journalist get blacklist all the time for betraying the trust or just pissing off "real" sports teams.
And you can't go around saying well EG fucked up because you and i have no idea where Slasher got his info from, like i said both parties have taken the stance they naturally would. Nobody should be surprised. Slasher did not betray any trust. EG gave out information and fucked up. EG is mad Slasher did his job.
I never said Slasher betrayed EG at all, Again he is not their puppet! What im saying is this industry is different on so many levels that info can be leaked in allot of different places , having the attitude that "EG you done fucked up and now your mad at Slasher" is wrong imo.
Everyone should be looking at this like : Slasher has every right to A: break the news or B: Try get some addition exclusive content to keep it quiet until the official announcement. But option A will pissed people off and option B won't , BOTH are up to Slasher and nobody else can make him do anything but you accept the consequences of your choice.
EDIT: But thats not to say info is being kept safe, quite the opposite. Info in the esports industry gets around way to much , people need to keep their mouths shut most of the time, i only said you shouldn't blanket its EG's fault because we have no idea who is the source.
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On January 17 2013 11:11 S_SienZ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 11:10 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:07 S_SienZ wrote:
What Slasher does only encourages teams to enforce rules where players are prohibited from talking to journalists and throw out NDAs and embargoes. So lets say Slasher doesn't do it anymore. Someone will take his place and do what he used to do. People would pounce at the opportunity for the hits. It is that simple. That someone would first have to get to a position of Slasher, get the trust of people in the industry before being actually capable of leaking. 1 news leak and the industry shuns him, he's done. If someone actually wants to burn a bridge like that, especially in such a tight knit community, so be it.
That is true only if there will be another man like Slasher, but just 1. What will change if leaks will come from different people? Nothing. And I believe every team/it's players got some people who they trust.
All kinds of info gets leaked in the world, including top secret documents/tech, it would be very naive to expect something different for esports.
Even if forget about non gaming community. They were talking about embargo for some reviews/specs/info etc. And while it's true and some companies do enforce that, some info always gets leaked. Like company X send reviews copies of game Z to journalists. Someone will go to game forums and share info/videos with others, every freaking time, with every game.
It's happening for years and will be happening most likely forever.
So I don't really understand why some people in the esports industry think they have power to change that. Compared to entertainment giants like Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo etc, they are nothing, they can't dictate their rules. All they can do is "ban" people like Slasher from their info, but it won't help.
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On January 17 2013 11:34 M,J,Y wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 11:24 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:22 M,J,Y wrote:
Muse you should know that leaked info can come from anywhere and be not EG ( in this example) fault at all, A ilp or a mlg slipping in a players new team with their name or what have you.
But getting back to my point, in the real world journalist get blacklist all the time for betraying the trust or just pissing off "real" sports teams.
And you can't go around saying well EG fucked up because you and i have no idea where Slasher got his info from, like i said both parties have taken the stance they naturally would. Nobody should be surprised. Slasher did not betray any trust. EG gave out information and fucked up. EG is mad Slasher did his job. I never said Slasher betrayed EG at all, Again he is not their puppet! What im saying is this industry is different on so many levels that info can be leaked in allot of different places , having the attitude that "EG you done fucked up and now your mad at Slasher" is wrong imo. Everyone should be looking at this like : Slasher has every right to A: break the news or B: Try get some addition exclusive content to keep it quiet until the official announcement. But option A will pissed people off and option B won't , BOTH are up to Slasher and nobody else can make him do anything but you accept the consequences of your choice.
So if EG doesn't release the information none of this happens? That is the right attitude to have, because if EG did just that we would not be in this discussion.
But in all honesty, it is best for it to have happened. Now people can wake up and see what they have to do if they want their information to be exclusive, like everywhere else.
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On January 17 2013 11:33 MuseMike wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 11:30 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:26 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:25 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:23 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:20 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:15 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:11 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:10 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:07 S_SienZ wrote:
What Slasher does only encourages teams to enforce rules where players are prohibited from talking to journalists and throw out NDAs and embargoes. So lets say Slasher doesn't do it anymore. Someone will take his place and do what he used to do. People would pounce at the opportunity for the hits. It is that simple. That someone would first have to get to a position of Slasher, get the trust of people in the industry before being actually capable of leaking. 1 news leak and the industry shuns him, he's done. If someone actually wants to burn a bridge like that, especially in such a tight knit community, so be it. That's not how the real world works. There are many people who would fill Slasher's role if he was not around. What bridge did he burn? EG fucked up and they are trying to pass the buck. All that is happening is that EG looks like assholes. Whoever gave Slasher the information said it was okay to leak. Bottom Line: EG does their job this never happens. How the world outside eSports works isn't relevant. This is how eSports has worked thus far. What bridge did he burn? Do you realise how difficult it would be to do eSports journalism if you were boycotted by every team?? You won't be able to do anything aside from opinion articles, match recaps and quoted chunks of interviews done by OTHER journalists. You won't be able to produce any piece of work that is worth reading to a reader. So the next guy comes around and does what Slasher does. Then he gets boycotted and it keeps going. SOMEONE will always do what Slasher does. If there is profit to be made, someone will perform the action that will receive such profit. How the world outside e-sports matters, as more money comes in the market grows and becomes like most other markets out there. Doing eSports journalism is tough enough to make money as it is. Throwing your entire career in the industry away just for a couple extra hits on ONE piece of news is incredibly stupid. Which is why Slasher didn't do that. He did not get the information from EG and they did not give him the information based on the fact that they could break the story first. He found out from a third party. Read what Carmac said because it is the truth. He has no obligation to EG in this instance and anyone thinking that he does is misguided. EG does not own the information at that point. I'm not talking at all about obligation. I'm completely aware that what Slasher did, he's entitled to do. I'm saying that Slasher is doing neither himself or the industry (moreso for up and coming journalists) any long term favours. If anything this incident will cause the scene to mature to normal practices within markets. It will cause the stories released by Slasher to increase in quality as stated on LO3 and maybe teams will hold information more dearly and do their job.
If anything the quality of articles Slasher has put out has only gone down since he started relying on shit like this.
Teams will hold info more dearly, this is what I said in my original post. Trust me it's not going to be fun for 99% of eSports journalists, who are volunteers. It will probably get to the point where it's even impossible to be friends with anyone not working in "journalism".
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On January 17 2013 11:35 MuseMike wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 11:34 M,J,Y wrote:On January 17 2013 11:24 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:22 M,J,Y wrote:
Muse you should know that leaked info can come from anywhere and be not EG ( in this example) fault at all, A ilp or a mlg slipping in a players new team with their name or what have you.
But getting back to my point, in the real world journalist get blacklist all the time for betraying the trust or just pissing off "real" sports teams.
And you can't go around saying well EG fucked up because you and i have no idea where Slasher got his info from, like i said both parties have taken the stance they naturally would. Nobody should be surprised. Slasher did not betray any trust. EG gave out information and fucked up. EG is mad Slasher did his job. I never said Slasher betrayed EG at all, Again he is not their puppet! What im saying is this industry is different on so many levels that info can be leaked in allot of different places , having the attitude that "EG you done fucked up and now your mad at Slasher" is wrong imo. Everyone should be looking at this like : Slasher has every right to A: break the news or B: Try get some addition exclusive content to keep it quiet until the official announcement. But option A will pissed people off and option B won't , BOTH are up to Slasher and nobody else can make him do anything but you accept the consequences of your choice. So if EG doesn't release the information none of this happens? That is the right attitude to have, because if EG did just that we would not be in this discussion. But in all honesty, it is best for it to have happened. Now people can wake up and see what they have to do if they want their information to be exclusive, like everywhere else.
In a perfect world yes, but things like this happen. Yes i agree with you when the the whole industry has no doubt been watching this unfold, lesson will be learned and everyone should be better for it.
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On January 17 2013 11:38 S_SienZ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 11:33 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:30 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:26 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:25 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:23 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:20 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:15 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:11 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:10 MuseMike wrote:
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So lets say Slasher doesn't do it anymore. Someone will take his place and do what he used to do. People would pounce at the opportunity for the hits. It is that simple. That someone would first have to get to a position of Slasher, get the trust of people in the industry before being actually capable of leaking. 1 news leak and the industry shuns him, he's done. If someone actually wants to burn a bridge like that, especially in such a tight knit community, so be it. That's not how the real world works. There are many people who would fill Slasher's role if he was not around. What bridge did he burn? EG fucked up and they are trying to pass the buck. All that is happening is that EG looks like assholes. Whoever gave Slasher the information said it was okay to leak. Bottom Line: EG does their job this never happens. How the world outside eSports works isn't relevant. This is how eSports has worked thus far. What bridge did he burn? Do you realise how difficult it would be to do eSports journalism if you were boycotted by every team?? You won't be able to do anything aside from opinion articles, match recaps and quoted chunks of interviews done by OTHER journalists. You won't be able to produce any piece of work that is worth reading to a reader. So the next guy comes around and does what Slasher does. Then he gets boycotted and it keeps going. SOMEONE will always do what Slasher does. If there is profit to be made, someone will perform the action that will receive such profit. How the world outside e-sports matters, as more money comes in the market grows and becomes like most other markets out there. Doing eSports journalism is tough enough to make money as it is. Throwing your entire career in the industry away just for a couple extra hits on ONE piece of news is incredibly stupid. Which is why Slasher didn't do that. He did not get the information from EG and they did not give him the information based on the fact that they could break the story first. He found out from a third party. Read what Carmac said because it is the truth. He has no obligation to EG in this instance and anyone thinking that he does is misguided. EG does not own the information at that point. I'm not talking at all about obligation. I'm completely aware that what Slasher did, he's entitled to do. I'm saying that Slasher is doing neither himself or the industry (moreso for up and coming journalists) any long term favours. If anything this incident will cause the scene to mature to normal practices within markets. It will cause the stories released by Slasher to increase in quality as stated on LO3 and maybe teams will hold information more dearly and do their job. If anything the quality of articles Slasher has put out has only gone down since he started relying on shit like this. Teams will hold info more dearly, this is what I said in my original post. Trust me it's not going to be fun for 99% of eSports journalists, who are volunteers. It will probably get to the point where it's even impossible to be friends with anyone not working in "journalism".
So they will have to do real work like in other industries? This is what happen when industries mature. Slasher said on LO3 today that he will up the qualitry, so what happened in the past is not what I am speaking of. If you think teams won't leak information at all that is sadly wrong. It happens on accident, which is common, or it happens on purpose for some hype like TB did for Axiom with slasher.
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The hilarious bit is how the other involved parties attempt to feign concern for Slasher's job security, when there is nothing they would like more than to see Slasher out of a job, and a return to the stone ages of media darkness.
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The ultimate mindfuck would be if Garfield was Slasher's source inside EG for the news about Stephano/Jaedong/Thorzain.
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On January 17 2013 11:41 MuseMike wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 11:38 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:33 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:30 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:26 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:25 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:23 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:20 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:15 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:11 S_SienZ wrote:
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That someone would first have to get to a position of Slasher, get the trust of people in the industry before being actually capable of leaking. 1 news leak and the industry shuns him, he's done. If someone actually wants to burn a bridge like that, especially in such a tight knit community, so be it. That's not how the real world works. There are many people who would fill Slasher's role if he was not around. What bridge did he burn? EG fucked up and they are trying to pass the buck. All that is happening is that EG looks like assholes. Whoever gave Slasher the information said it was okay to leak. Bottom Line: EG does their job this never happens. How the world outside eSports works isn't relevant. This is how eSports has worked thus far. What bridge did he burn? Do you realise how difficult it would be to do eSports journalism if you were boycotted by every team?? You won't be able to do anything aside from opinion articles, match recaps and quoted chunks of interviews done by OTHER journalists. You won't be able to produce any piece of work that is worth reading to a reader. So the next guy comes around and does what Slasher does. Then he gets boycotted and it keeps going. SOMEONE will always do what Slasher does. If there is profit to be made, someone will perform the action that will receive such profit. How the world outside e-sports matters, as more money comes in the market grows and becomes like most other markets out there. Doing eSports journalism is tough enough to make money as it is. Throwing your entire career in the industry away just for a couple extra hits on ONE piece of news is incredibly stupid. Which is why Slasher didn't do that. He did not get the information from EG and they did not give him the information based on the fact that they could break the story first. He found out from a third party. Read what Carmac said because it is the truth. He has no obligation to EG in this instance and anyone thinking that he does is misguided. EG does not own the information at that point. I'm not talking at all about obligation. I'm completely aware that what Slasher did, he's entitled to do. I'm saying that Slasher is doing neither himself or the industry (moreso for up and coming journalists) any long term favours. If anything this incident will cause the scene to mature to normal practices within markets. It will cause the stories released by Slasher to increase in quality as stated on LO3 and maybe teams will hold information more dearly and do their job. If anything the quality of articles Slasher has put out has only gone down since he started relying on shit like this. Teams will hold info more dearly, this is what I said in my original post. Trust me it's not going to be fun for 99% of eSports journalists, who are volunteers. It will probably get to the point where it's even impossible to be friends with anyone not working in "journalism". So they will have to do real work like in other industries? This is what happen when industries mature. Slasher said on LO3 today that he will up the qualitry, so what happened in the past is not what I am speaking of. If you think teams won't leak information at all that is sadly wrong. It happens on accident, which is common, or it happens on purpose for some hype like TB did for Axiom with slasher.
You can't force an industry to mature. Most eSports journalists are unpaid volunteers, where is that money gonna come from?
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On January 17 2013 11:45 S_SienZ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 11:41 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:38 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:33 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:30 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:26 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:25 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:23 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:20 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:15 MuseMike wrote:
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That's not how the real world works. There are many people who would fill Slasher's role if he was not around. What bridge did he burn? EG fucked up and they are trying to pass the buck. All that is happening is that EG looks like assholes.
Whoever gave Slasher the information said it was okay to leak.
Bottom Line: EG does their job this never happens. How the world outside eSports works isn't relevant. This is how eSports has worked thus far. What bridge did he burn? Do you realise how difficult it would be to do eSports journalism if you were boycotted by every team?? You won't be able to do anything aside from opinion articles, match recaps and quoted chunks of interviews done by OTHER journalists. You won't be able to produce any piece of work that is worth reading to a reader. So the next guy comes around and does what Slasher does. Then he gets boycotted and it keeps going. SOMEONE will always do what Slasher does. If there is profit to be made, someone will perform the action that will receive such profit. How the world outside e-sports matters, as more money comes in the market grows and becomes like most other markets out there. Doing eSports journalism is tough enough to make money as it is. Throwing your entire career in the industry away just for a couple extra hits on ONE piece of news is incredibly stupid. Which is why Slasher didn't do that. He did not get the information from EG and they did not give him the information based on the fact that they could break the story first. He found out from a third party. Read what Carmac said because it is the truth. He has no obligation to EG in this instance and anyone thinking that he does is misguided. EG does not own the information at that point. I'm not talking at all about obligation. I'm completely aware that what Slasher did, he's entitled to do. I'm saying that Slasher is doing neither himself or the industry (moreso for up and coming journalists) any long term favours. If anything this incident will cause the scene to mature to normal practices within markets. It will cause the stories released by Slasher to increase in quality as stated on LO3 and maybe teams will hold information more dearly and do their job. If anything the quality of articles Slasher has put out has only gone down since he started relying on shit like this. Teams will hold info more dearly, this is what I said in my original post. Trust me it's not going to be fun for 99% of eSports journalists, who are volunteers. It will probably get to the point where it's even impossible to be friends with anyone not working in "journalism". So they will have to do real work like in other industries? This is what happen when industries mature. Slasher said on LO3 today that he will up the qualitry, so what happened in the past is not what I am speaking of. If you think teams won't leak information at all that is sadly wrong. It happens on accident, which is common, or it happens on purpose for some hype like TB did for Axiom with slasher. You can't force an industry to mature. Most eSports journalists are unpaid volunteers, where is that money gonna come from?
It happens naturally. The industry is already maturing. Look at prize pools. The fact that Slasher's sole job is reporting says enough. The problem you speak of is a strawman. Other industries have gone through the same process. Up and coming journalists have plenty of other things to cover. Garfield is just mad that the information got out.
If he wants to leak information again who will he go to? The person who generate the most hype. (I am not saying he leaked the info to him this time mind you)
This is a business. Where would the money come from before? It can come from ad revenue or it can come from people like GameSpot employing Slasher.
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On January 17 2013 11:38 S_SienZ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 11:33 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:30 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:26 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:25 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:23 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:20 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:15 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:11 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:10 MuseMike wrote:
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So lets say Slasher doesn't do it anymore. Someone will take his place and do what he used to do. People would pounce at the opportunity for the hits. It is that simple. That someone would first have to get to a position of Slasher, get the trust of people in the industry before being actually capable of leaking. 1 news leak and the industry shuns him, he's done. If someone actually wants to burn a bridge like that, especially in such a tight knit community, so be it. That's not how the real world works. There are many people who would fill Slasher's role if he was not around. What bridge did he burn? EG fucked up and they are trying to pass the buck. All that is happening is that EG looks like assholes. Whoever gave Slasher the information said it was okay to leak. Bottom Line: EG does their job this never happens. How the world outside eSports works isn't relevant. This is how eSports has worked thus far. What bridge did he burn? Do you realise how difficult it would be to do eSports journalism if you were boycotted by every team?? You won't be able to do anything aside from opinion articles, match recaps and quoted chunks of interviews done by OTHER journalists. You won't be able to produce any piece of work that is worth reading to a reader. So the next guy comes around and does what Slasher does. Then he gets boycotted and it keeps going. SOMEONE will always do what Slasher does. If there is profit to be made, someone will perform the action that will receive such profit. How the world outside e-sports matters, as more money comes in the market grows and becomes like most other markets out there. Doing eSports journalism is tough enough to make money as it is. Throwing your entire career in the industry away just for a couple extra hits on ONE piece of news is incredibly stupid. Which is why Slasher didn't do that. He did not get the information from EG and they did not give him the information based on the fact that they could break the story first. He found out from a third party. Read what Carmac said because it is the truth. He has no obligation to EG in this instance and anyone thinking that he does is misguided. EG does not own the information at that point. I'm not talking at all about obligation. I'm completely aware that what Slasher did, he's entitled to do. I'm saying that Slasher is doing neither himself or the industry (moreso for up and coming journalists) any long term favours. If anything this incident will cause the scene to mature to normal practices within markets. It will cause the stories released by Slasher to increase in quality as stated on LO3 and maybe teams will hold information more dearly and do their job. If anything the quality of articles Slasher has put out has only gone down since he started relying on shit like this. Teams will hold info more dearly, this is what I said in my original post. Trust me it's not going to be fun for 99% of eSports journalists, who are volunteers. It will probably get to the point where it's even impossible to be friends with anyone not working in "journalism".
I don't think that's the whole view about it. Remember that the sponsors wants exposure and teams/team members therefore need to show up in media. I don't think the sponsors would be happy if their product didn't reach as much audience as possible. And as someone else stated, there will always be someone who will take the place of Slasher.
The whole discussion is so baised. On ITG they started it based on the role of journalism, wich is not for them to decide. They should adapt to it and don't blame others.
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On January 17 2013 11:20 S_SienZ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 11:15 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:11 S_SienZ wrote:On January 17 2013 11:10 MuseMike wrote:On January 17 2013 11:07 S_SienZ wrote:
What Slasher does only encourages teams to enforce rules where players are prohibited from talking to journalists and throw out NDAs and embargoes. So lets say Slasher doesn't do it anymore. Someone will take his place and do what he used to do. People would pounce at the opportunity for the hits. It is that simple. That someone would first have to get to a position of Slasher, get the trust of people in the industry before being actually capable of leaking. 1 news leak and the industry shuns him, he's done. If someone actually wants to burn a bridge like that, especially in such a tight knit community, so be it. That's not how the real world works. There are many people who would fill Slasher's role if he was not around. What bridge did he burn? EG fucked up and they are trying to pass the buck. All that is happening is that EG looks like assholes. Whoever gave Slasher the information said it was okay to leak. Bottom Line: EG does their job this never happens. How the world outside eSports works isn't relevant. This is how eSports has worked thus far. What bridge did he burn? Do you realise how difficult it would be to do eSports journalism if you were boycotted by every team?? You won't be able to do anything aside from opinion articles, match recaps and quoted chunks of interviews done by OTHER journalists. You won't be able to produce any piece of work that is worth reading to a reader.
eSports teams should think twice before boycotting anything or anyone, given the effect of prior advertiser boycott letter campaigns from the community.
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Garfield should have learnt his lesson from the Puma/Milkis incident. Instead, all he demonstrated on ITG yesterday was his organisation's (mostly his, personally, though) inability to deal with external media sources acting against EG's (his) own interests. Garfield yet again presented in an aggressive and childish manner. There's a pattern here. My opinion of him and his brand continues to deteriorate.
You're in business, AG, if you think your performance yesterday helped your organisation, you really need to rethink.
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you should rename your show to 'inside eg' wheat.
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Nice article, really spot on.
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-Djwheat has the same sponsors EG have.
-He host all eg events on his channel.
-He sided with EG on every topic in history of sc2.
-Everytime there is something to say about EG, djwheat is the first to give it full attention.
There was not one second in history of sc2, where it was not complete clear,
that djwheat is a the inofficial-eg-marketing-guy.
And still this community act like its a surprise that he is on eg site...
This is a EG advertise show. What did you expect?
Next Time you discuss if Teamliquid.net is biased towards TL...
Beside that, it worked out well for EG again.
Their advertise show and team got again a lot of attention for made up drama.
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Time to pull out the popcorn a second time.
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