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seaofsaturn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States489 Posts
September 12 2012 02:49 GMT
#5381
Is someone makin' an mp3? ♥♥♥
Photoshop is over-powered.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
September 12 2012 03:08 GMT
#5382
On September 12 2012 11:27 IdrA wrote:
how is correcting people who are incorrect a bad precedent? and how does the video preclude being disappointed with poor performances?

the more money there is in tournaments and the bigger the community is the less need there is for players to make themselves marketable. but as is we're a niche community around a competition where performance is very difficult to sustain. that means you need to be able to draw consistant attention from a very, very big percentage of all the people interested in sc2, because theres not that many to begin with. and its very difficult to do this purely through fandom as people are pretty fickle about who theyre fans of. there is also a higher amount of understanding involved in appreciating a lot of the things that happen in a sc2 game as opposed to a traditional sport, most of our fans dont actually understand much about whats going on while we're playing. but its pretty easy to recognize and appreciate an amazing shot in tennis. another disadvantage is we dont really have built in home town hero fans. ya you get some based on nationality, but most american football fans are fans of the team that was local to them when they were growing up. we dont have that. so combine the fact that we have to draw attention from pretty much the entire community consistantly and the fact that its very hard for a player to actually be appreciated purely for being a player and ya, players are probably going to have to be entertainers if they want to make a good living off this until esports actually blows up and becomes a mainstream thing, if it does. and to get it to become mainstream we definitely need players as entertainers, as being interesting and cool beyond the gameplay is the easiest way to get casual viewers to take a look at the game.


I always assumed IdrA was more self-aware and mature than most players. This proves it.

sLideSC2
Profile Joined July 2012
United States225 Posts
September 12 2012 03:11 GMT
#5383
On September 12 2012 12:08 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 11:27 IdrA wrote:
how is correcting people who are incorrect a bad precedent? and how does the video preclude being disappointed with poor performances?

the more money there is in tournaments and the bigger the community is the less need there is for players to make themselves marketable. but as is we're a niche community around a competition where performance is very difficult to sustain. that means you need to be able to draw consistant attention from a very, very big percentage of all the people interested in sc2, because theres not that many to begin with. and its very difficult to do this purely through fandom as people are pretty fickle about who theyre fans of. there is also a higher amount of understanding involved in appreciating a lot of the things that happen in a sc2 game as opposed to a traditional sport, most of our fans dont actually understand much about whats going on while we're playing. but its pretty easy to recognize and appreciate an amazing shot in tennis. another disadvantage is we dont really have built in home town hero fans. ya you get some based on nationality, but most american football fans are fans of the team that was local to them when they were growing up. we dont have that. so combine the fact that we have to draw attention from pretty much the entire community consistantly and the fact that its very hard for a player to actually be appreciated purely for being a player and ya, players are probably going to have to be entertainers if they want to make a good living off this until esports actually blows up and becomes a mainstream thing, if it does. and to get it to become mainstream we definitely need players as entertainers, as being interesting and cool beyond the gameplay is the easiest way to get casual viewers to take a look at the game.


I always assumed IdrA was more self-aware and mature than most players. This proves it.



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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 12 2012 03:13 GMT
#5384
On September 12 2012 11:27 IdrA wrote:
how is correcting people who are incorrect a bad precedent? and how does the video preclude being disappointed with poor performances?

the more money there is in tournaments and the bigger the community is the less need there is for players to make themselves marketable. but as is we're a niche community around a competition where performance is very difficult to sustain. that means you need to be able to draw consistant attention from a very, very big percentage of all the people interested in sc2, because theres not that many to begin with. and its very difficult to do this purely through fandom as people are pretty fickle about who theyre fans of. there is also a higher amount of understanding involved in appreciating a lot of the things that happen in a sc2 game as opposed to a traditional sport, most of our fans dont actually understand much about whats going on while we're playing. but its pretty easy to recognize and appreciate an amazing shot in tennis. another disadvantage is we dont really have built in home town hero fans. ya you get some based on nationality, but most american football fans are fans of the team that was local to them when they were growing up. we dont have that. so combine the fact that we have to draw attention from pretty much the entire community consistantly and the fact that its very hard for a player to actually be appreciated purely for being a player and ya, players are probably going to have to be entertainers if they want to make a good living off this until esports actually blows up and becomes a mainstream thing, if it does. and to get it to become mainstream we definitely need players as entertainers, as being interesting and cool beyond the gameplay is the easiest way to get casual viewers to take a look at the game.


I have to agree with Idra on this one. Most professional athletes are entertainers and players at the same time. You never see any one criticizing a football player for being featured in a Dunken Donuts add, saying they are washed up or in a slump. For an NA player going solo and to pay for themselves solely off SC2, they would have to win multiple MLGs to even afford health care, housing and food for the year. That is not viable. I personally find it really strange that most Korean players are not paid well and slightly disheartening. Being a professional player is not a skill that you can transfer into the professional world. If SC2 does not work out for some of these Korean players, they may have little to fall back on.

My girlfriend and I have no interest in watching any matches that do not feature players we care about. There are about four to five totally Koreans that I find interesting at any level outside of SC2 and my girlfriend could give two shits about anyone who is not MKP or MC. The entire roster of IM is not every interesting to me beyond MVP and his ability to play while injured. I will watch a game if I have nothing else to do, but in my adult life I rarely have the pleasure of that much free time.

People talk a lot of mess about EG, how they are slumping and focus to making money to much. But the simple fact is that EG treats its players and staff better than any other team in the world. They are well paid, well cared for and clearly want to work hard to make sure they can keep EG going. I am not much different, because I don't work overtime because I want to be the best paralegal in the world. I do it because I get paid well to do so. EG is the same way.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Bedrock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
September 12 2012 03:23 GMT
#5385
On September 12 2012 11:27 IdrA wrote:
how is correcting people who are incorrect a bad precedent? and how does the video preclude being disappointed with poor performances?

the more money there is in tournaments and the bigger the community is the less need there is for players to make themselves marketable. but as is we're a niche community around a competition where performance is very difficult to sustain. that means you need to be able to draw consistant attention from a very, very big percentage of all the people interested in sc2, because theres not that many to begin with. and its very difficult to do this purely through fandom as people are pretty fickle about who theyre fans of. there is also a higher amount of understanding involved in appreciating a lot of the things that happen in a sc2 game as opposed to a traditional sport, most of our fans dont actually understand much about whats going on while we're playing. but its pretty easy to recognize and appreciate an amazing shot in tennis. another disadvantage is we dont really have built in home town hero fans. ya you get some based on nationality, but most american football fans are fans of the team that was local to them when they were growing up. we dont have that. so combine the fact that we have to draw attention from pretty much the entire community consistantly and the fact that its very hard for a player to actually be appreciated purely for being a player and ya, players are probably going to have to be entertainers if they want to make a good living off this until esports actually blows up and becomes a mainstream thing, if it does. and to get it to become mainstream we definitely need players as entertainers, as being interesting and cool beyond the gameplay is the easiest way to get casual viewers to take a look at the game.


Just paste this to anyone who needs an understanding of what the industry is like.

Very well said.
eSports or die tryin'
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 12 2012 03:54 GMT
#5386
On September 12 2012 11:49 seaofsaturn wrote:
Is someone makin' an mp3? ♥♥♥


Second. Ill check in the morning for the glory.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Rezudox
Profile Joined July 2012
207 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 04:42:47
September 12 2012 04:21 GMT
#5387
Mp3 for Inside The Game Episode 53 - HoTS Special.

https://archive.org/download/InsideTheGameEpisode53/InsideTheGameEpisode53.mp3 (Right click, save as.)

Enjoy.
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 04:49:47
September 12 2012 04:49 GMT
#5388
On September 12 2012 13:21 Rezudox wrote:
Mp3 for Inside The Game Episode 53 - HoTS Special.

https://archive.org/download/InsideTheGameEpisode53/InsideTheGameEpisode53.mp3 (Right click, save as.)

Enjoy.


If TL had a "Like"-system, I still wouldn't "Like" your post, because "Like"-Systems are stupid, but I do like it!

Thanks so much.
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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
September 12 2012 09:02 GMT
#5389
I wish they would remove painuser from the game along with the warhound.
Cackle™
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
September 12 2012 09:55 GMT
#5390
--- Nuked ---
phisku
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Belgium864 Posts
September 12 2012 10:57 GMT
#5391
Painuser was lacking some manners, he kept interupting people. It was getting pretty obnoxious at some point but i think it comes from the excitement for Hots and also the tournament he was going to cast that he was so eager to answer.
seaofsaturn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States489 Posts
September 12 2012 11:05 GMT
#5392
On September 12 2012 13:21 Rezudox wrote:
Mp3 for Inside The Game Episode 53 - HoTS Special.

https://archive.org/download/InsideTheGameEpisode53/InsideTheGameEpisode53.mp3 (Right click, save as.)

Enjoy.


Awww yeahhh! Thanks.
Photoshop is over-powered.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
September 12 2012 11:27 GMT
#5393
I'm getting so pissed with the "RACISM AGAINST KOREANS"

don't you people understand that everybody watches GSL and now we have GSTL, OSL and PL! Maybe there is another league incoming. Plus you also have WCG Korea, WCS Korea, IEM Korean qualif. MLG Korea qualif, ESV etc..

There is allready to much koreans everywhere.. can i watch a few foreigners win some shit? Or do you want BW allover again!

They didn't make it easy for foreigners but we do for them!

so why is it racism if i prefer other type of players?

We all watch GSL and many of us pay for it(me included)!



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Bofro
Profile Joined June 2012
United States10 Posts
September 12 2012 11:32 GMT
#5394
Damn, IdrA knows what he's talking about! Really smart dude. Keep up the good work EG.
Be excellent to each other, and party on Dudes! -Abraham Lincoln
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 12 2012 11:46 GMT
#5395
On September 12 2012 18:55 monkybone wrote:
sc2 is basically a popularity contest.


If you're not tournament winner material, then yeah sure.
Czarnodziej
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland624 Posts
September 12 2012 11:47 GMT
#5396
Goatlust deserve a fanclub.
kinglemon
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany199 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 12:11:16
September 12 2012 12:10 GMT
#5397
since huk joined eg he totally fell off the radar compared to his time before.
i also saw more from demuslim when he wasn't on eg.
puma and jyp are "dry as shit" so you can't use them for marketing.
you don't really see that much from the other players in general besides idra & incontrol.
the only real difference eg makes compared to other teams is idra & incontrol, because they are so polarising.
but don't act like every inch of your team is the golden spectrum of marketing.



ULuMuGuLu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
190 Posts
September 12 2012 12:24 GMT
#5398
GOD i love this show but honestly... but there's this one thing. I never realized it as much but since i was watching that PHD Tournament AND ITG i start to realize how angry Painuser makes me @_@

No matter who talks, Painuser fckin 80 % of the time interferes other people (ITG) or co-casters (when he casts). It's driving me nuts. IdrA or INcontrol or even DJwheat wanna say something, give an extended speech about an interesting topic and then out of nowhere painuser jumps in and doesnt let others speak out because he really WANTS to tell others what he thinks right now... hell it's makin me sooo crazy... in the last days i thought i'm the only one who takes note of this but on the last episode i really laughed my ass off when Goeff wanted to say something really detailed, and then again... out of nowhere Painuser wanted to talk :D Goeffs reaction:

"Jesus fckin Christ hang on Painuser!" -INcontrol

And HELL jeah, he was right! Nobody interferes Painuser when he says something but it doesnt matter who else talks theres no chance this other person will end his speech without Painuser interfering x_x
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
September 12 2012 12:25 GMT
#5399
On September 12 2012 13:21 Rezudox wrote:
Mp3 for Inside The Game Episode 53 - HoTS Special.

https://archive.org/download/InsideTheGameEpisode53/InsideTheGameEpisode53.mp3 (Right click, save as.)

Enjoy.


Brilliant! TY
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
chocopan
Profile Joined April 2010
Japan986 Posts
September 12 2012 12:26 GMT
#5400
I'm definitely late but I want to say too IdrA's post was very persuasive. ggwp
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