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seaofsaturn
United States489 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On September 12 2012 11:27 IdrA wrote: how is correcting people who are incorrect a bad precedent? and how does the video preclude being disappointed with poor performances? the more money there is in tournaments and the bigger the community is the less need there is for players to make themselves marketable. but as is we're a niche community around a competition where performance is very difficult to sustain. that means you need to be able to draw consistant attention from a very, very big percentage of all the people interested in sc2, because theres not that many to begin with. and its very difficult to do this purely through fandom as people are pretty fickle about who theyre fans of. there is also a higher amount of understanding involved in appreciating a lot of the things that happen in a sc2 game as opposed to a traditional sport, most of our fans dont actually understand much about whats going on while we're playing. but its pretty easy to recognize and appreciate an amazing shot in tennis. another disadvantage is we dont really have built in home town hero fans. ya you get some based on nationality, but most american football fans are fans of the team that was local to them when they were growing up. we dont have that. so combine the fact that we have to draw attention from pretty much the entire community consistantly and the fact that its very hard for a player to actually be appreciated purely for being a player and ya, players are probably going to have to be entertainers if they want to make a good living off this until esports actually blows up and becomes a mainstream thing, if it does. and to get it to become mainstream we definitely need players as entertainers, as being interesting and cool beyond the gameplay is the easiest way to get casual viewers to take a look at the game. I always assumed IdrA was more self-aware and mature than most players. This proves it. | ||
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sLideSC2
United States225 Posts
On September 12 2012 12:08 Defacer wrote: I always assumed IdrA was more self-aware and mature than most players. This proves it. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qSv1i.gif) User was warned for this post | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 12 2012 11:27 IdrA wrote: how is correcting people who are incorrect a bad precedent? and how does the video preclude being disappointed with poor performances? the more money there is in tournaments and the bigger the community is the less need there is for players to make themselves marketable. but as is we're a niche community around a competition where performance is very difficult to sustain. that means you need to be able to draw consistant attention from a very, very big percentage of all the people interested in sc2, because theres not that many to begin with. and its very difficult to do this purely through fandom as people are pretty fickle about who theyre fans of. there is also a higher amount of understanding involved in appreciating a lot of the things that happen in a sc2 game as opposed to a traditional sport, most of our fans dont actually understand much about whats going on while we're playing. but its pretty easy to recognize and appreciate an amazing shot in tennis. another disadvantage is we dont really have built in home town hero fans. ya you get some based on nationality, but most american football fans are fans of the team that was local to them when they were growing up. we dont have that. so combine the fact that we have to draw attention from pretty much the entire community consistantly and the fact that its very hard for a player to actually be appreciated purely for being a player and ya, players are probably going to have to be entertainers if they want to make a good living off this until esports actually blows up and becomes a mainstream thing, if it does. and to get it to become mainstream we definitely need players as entertainers, as being interesting and cool beyond the gameplay is the easiest way to get casual viewers to take a look at the game. I have to agree with Idra on this one. Most professional athletes are entertainers and players at the same time. You never see any one criticizing a football player for being featured in a Dunken Donuts add, saying they are washed up or in a slump. For an NA player going solo and to pay for themselves solely off SC2, they would have to win multiple MLGs to even afford health care, housing and food for the year. That is not viable. I personally find it really strange that most Korean players are not paid well and slightly disheartening. Being a professional player is not a skill that you can transfer into the professional world. If SC2 does not work out for some of these Korean players, they may have little to fall back on. My girlfriend and I have no interest in watching any matches that do not feature players we care about. There are about four to five totally Koreans that I find interesting at any level outside of SC2 and my girlfriend could give two shits about anyone who is not MKP or MC. The entire roster of IM is not every interesting to me beyond MVP and his ability to play while injured. I will watch a game if I have nothing else to do, but in my adult life I rarely have the pleasure of that much free time. People talk a lot of mess about EG, how they are slumping and focus to making money to much. But the simple fact is that EG treats its players and staff better than any other team in the world. They are well paid, well cared for and clearly want to work hard to make sure they can keep EG going. I am not much different, because I don't work overtime because I want to be the best paralegal in the world. I do it because I get paid well to do so. EG is the same way. | ||
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Bedrock
United States395 Posts
On September 12 2012 11:27 IdrA wrote: how is correcting people who are incorrect a bad precedent? and how does the video preclude being disappointed with poor performances? the more money there is in tournaments and the bigger the community is the less need there is for players to make themselves marketable. but as is we're a niche community around a competition where performance is very difficult to sustain. that means you need to be able to draw consistant attention from a very, very big percentage of all the people interested in sc2, because theres not that many to begin with. and its very difficult to do this purely through fandom as people are pretty fickle about who theyre fans of. there is also a higher amount of understanding involved in appreciating a lot of the things that happen in a sc2 game as opposed to a traditional sport, most of our fans dont actually understand much about whats going on while we're playing. but its pretty easy to recognize and appreciate an amazing shot in tennis. another disadvantage is we dont really have built in home town hero fans. ya you get some based on nationality, but most american football fans are fans of the team that was local to them when they were growing up. we dont have that. so combine the fact that we have to draw attention from pretty much the entire community consistantly and the fact that its very hard for a player to actually be appreciated purely for being a player and ya, players are probably going to have to be entertainers if they want to make a good living off this until esports actually blows up and becomes a mainstream thing, if it does. and to get it to become mainstream we definitely need players as entertainers, as being interesting and cool beyond the gameplay is the easiest way to get casual viewers to take a look at the game. Just paste this to anyone who needs an understanding of what the industry is like. Very well said. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 12 2012 11:49 seaofsaturn wrote: Is someone makin' an mp3? ♥♥♥ Second. Ill check in the morning for the glory. | ||
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Rezudox
207 Posts
https://archive.org/download/InsideTheGameEpisode53/InsideTheGameEpisode53.mp3 (Right click, save as.) Enjoy. | ||
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kafkaesque
Germany2006 Posts
On September 12 2012 13:21 Rezudox wrote: Mp3 for Inside The Game Episode 53 - HoTS Special. https://archive.org/download/InsideTheGameEpisode53/InsideTheGameEpisode53.mp3 (Right click, save as.) Enjoy. If TL had a "Like"-system, I still wouldn't "Like" your post, because "Like"-Systems are stupid, but I do like it! Thanks so much. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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Account252508
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phisku
Belgium864 Posts
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seaofsaturn
United States489 Posts
On September 12 2012 13:21 Rezudox wrote: Mp3 for Inside The Game Episode 53 - HoTS Special. https://archive.org/download/InsideTheGameEpisode53/InsideTheGameEpisode53.mp3 (Right click, save as.) Enjoy. Awww yeahhh! Thanks. | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
don't you people understand that everybody watches GSL and now we have GSTL, OSL and PL! Maybe there is another league incoming. Plus you also have WCG Korea, WCS Korea, IEM Korean qualif. MLG Korea qualif, ESV etc.. There is allready to much koreans everywhere.. can i watch a few foreigners win some shit? Or do you want BW allover again! They didn't make it easy for foreigners but we do for them! so why is it racism if i prefer other type of players? We all watch GSL and many of us pay for it(me included)! | ||
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Bofro
United States10 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On September 12 2012 18:55 monkybone wrote: sc2 is basically a popularity contest. If you're not tournament winner material, then yeah sure. | ||
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Czarnodziej
Poland624 Posts
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kinglemon
Germany199 Posts
i also saw more from demuslim when he wasn't on eg. puma and jyp are "dry as shit" so you can't use them for marketing. you don't really see that much from the other players in general besides idra & incontrol. the only real difference eg makes compared to other teams is idra & incontrol, because they are so polarising. but don't act like every inch of your team is the golden spectrum of marketing. | ||
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ULuMuGuLu
190 Posts
No matter who talks, Painuser fckin 80 % of the time interferes other people (ITG) or co-casters (when he casts). It's driving me nuts. IdrA or INcontrol or even DJwheat wanna say something, give an extended speech about an interesting topic and then out of nowhere painuser jumps in and doesnt let others speak out because he really WANTS to tell others what he thinks right now... hell it's makin me sooo crazy... in the last days i thought i'm the only one who takes note of this but on the last episode i really laughed my ass off when Goeff wanted to say something really detailed, and then again... out of nowhere Painuser wanted to talk :D Goeffs reaction: "Jesus fckin Christ hang on Painuser!" -INcontrol And HELL jeah, he was right! Nobody interferes Painuser when he says something but it doesnt matter who else talks theres no chance this other person will end his speech without Painuser interfering x_x | ||
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Deleted User 137586
7859 Posts
On September 12 2012 13:21 Rezudox wrote: Mp3 for Inside The Game Episode 53 - HoTS Special. https://archive.org/download/InsideTheGameEpisode53/InsideTheGameEpisode53.mp3 (Right click, save as.) Enjoy. Brilliant! TY | ||
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chocopan
Japan986 Posts
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