• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:41
CEST 22:41
KST 05:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 226ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon345.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes38Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)101
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon ZOWIE DIVINA preview
Tourneys
GSL CK #5 race war HomeStory Cup 29 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf BW General Discussion ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4887 users

[Show] Inside The Game - Official Thread - Page 272

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 270 271 272 273 274 496 Next
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
September 13 2012 11:19 GMT
#5421
--- Nuked ---
radient737
Profile Joined April 2011
South Africa8 Posts
September 13 2012 11:44 GMT
#5422
I for one would like to add that being a dedicated Starcraft 2 fan, I am a slightly less than average player, and as such am sure I don't understand or catch half of the things that go on in a game strategy or timing wise. I am however not averse to spending money on things that give me enjoyment, and have on multiple occasions spent money on "inferiorly skilled" tournaments like the smaller MLGs and IEMs etc. I doubt I am invested enough in any Korean player's performance to do the same for a GSL sadly.

Any tournament featuring even a slumping Idra or a "sometimes" disappointing Stephano or a constantly trying Incontrol is guaranteed to get my viewership, because I feel their soul-crushing losses and euphoric victories almost as if it were myself playing. Even "less interesting" members of EG like Thorzain and Demuslim get alot of "spillover" support because of this.

That said, PLEASE TELL ME HOW THE F*#% do I locate the latest ITG vod.
Neacant
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany40 Posts
September 13 2012 11:53 GMT
#5423
For VODs, just go to twitch.tv/onemoregametv and scroll down below the video player (click on 'more videos').
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
September 13 2012 17:09 GMT
#5424
On September 12 2012 10:20 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 10:10 yeastiality wrote:
On September 12 2012 10:07 Leth0 wrote:
On September 12 2012 09:59 yeastiality wrote:
Did you seriously just say MVP is 'dry as shit'?
I know western esports is all about "growing your brand" and other buzzwords, but the dude is the king of SC2. You almost make it sound like it's more important to be a reddit celebrity than it is to excel at the game.

Uggghhh. There are a lot of people who think someone winning the GSL is a much bigger event than 100 new EG youtube videos. To basically declare that they're wrong and don't understand "business models" is really intellectually dishonest (reminder: you're on a talk show). Should probably get somebody on the show with a different perspective so it isn't all softballs!


I have been watching the same show and I never heard him say that. Maybe you are reading into what he's saying in a way just so you can complain about it.

He made a simple comment about MVP not doing the same type of content because he is "dry as shit". I happen to agree with him in the fact that, of the koreans, MVP doesn't come off as the most charismatic. Maybe someone like an MC. But you are assuming to much from one simple comment that was said in a pretty straightforward way.


Well, maybe they should address more players than just MVP.
Here, I'll list some people who are wildly successful in SC2 and don't "produce content":
- Nestea
- MVP
- MC (he's a "personality" but doesn't spend time acting in commercials and go to great lengths to justify it)
- MarineKing (same thing - reddit loves him but there's no weekly marineking youtube series)
- Violet
- Dongraegu
- Boxer
- ..

To imply that all these people are 'dry as shit' is more xenophobic western esports talk, basically. If the korean audience cared more about marketing than gameplay, there would be a marineking sitcom airing every night of the week.

The 'other side' to this topic is completely worth discussing, but instead it was just used as a springboard for EG promotion. Again, this is why you need someone from outside western esports. Put on Hwanni or Mr. Chae and see if they agree with what Incontrol said. Even if they do, I bet they would have a much more interesting way of explaining it than saying "actually, this is why EG is the best and everyone else wishes they were us"

guess who has more money, eg or team mvp? guess whos more accomplished, drg or any 1 of our players? and drg is more relateable than most koreans because he speaks english well and is a funny nice guy. doesnt matter. having your logo on the shirt of a player winning a tournament is really good, until 2 months later when the entire community forgets it and focuses on the new player whos on a hot streak. but people are still talking about videos we made a year ago, they see us and interact with us every single week even when we're going through the periodic slumps that every single player goes through. is nestea performing as well as he used to? nope. are people talking about him being washed up or not putting in enough effort? nope. but he also doesnt get nearly as much attention as he used to.

viewership of tournaments drops when it gets down to only korean vs korean, and only players like mc and mkp who are more likeable and personable help that at all. most koreans are dry as shit. the ones you listed are actually exceptions, and many of them still arent as liked by the community as a whole as big western names.

I agree. If EG is really I mean REALLY good at something it's marketing (I don't mean the player side). EG produces memorable videos and the promote their brand by doing that.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
31415926535
Profile Joined May 2012
Switzerland276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-13 20:18:08
September 13 2012 20:15 GMT
#5425
On September 12 2012 21:35 ULuMuGuLu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 21:32 [NSL]BansheeHero wrote:
<3 PainUser. I do not care for incontrolls 20 minute speeches and PU is right to interupt them. I watch the show to learn and discover stuff. I want statements like Idra has. I want the passion like PainUser has. I do not a president speech on every topic.

You realize that he interrupts EVERYONE (not only INcontrol) huh? He interrupts IdrA, he interrupts DJwheat, he even interrupts HD in every second sentence in that PHD Tournament -.-

But jeah, you must be right, lets nerf the Dark Templar and jeah, the Warhound is really weak, lets buff him a bit because the autocast Missiles are so hard to micro. x_x (for those who don't understand, thats not my opinion, that's the usual stuff that mastermind interrupts others with).

I found him annoying in the last show. He's always interrupting, and doesn't let djwheat ask questions. He acts like he's on a phone call with the person talking, not on a talk show.
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
September 14 2012 18:20 GMT
#5426
Somebody put Painuser on suicide watch.
His complex and interesting unit that requires sophisticated micro has wiped off HotS.
cooked
Profile Joined December 2010
China1238 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 00:59:34
September 17 2012 00:56 GMT
#5427
Just catching up on the vod now for the 9/11 show...

And this isn't a troll, but jesus was Painuser just trying really hard to promote his tournament? Did he chug a few (dozen) redbulls? (doesn't social skills 101 teach about throwing "uh huh", "yeah", "yup" after every three or four words coming out of people's mouths?)
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
September 17 2012 18:02 GMT
#5428
Can someone link painusers sc2ranks page? i think he was in my division last season but could be troll. but i only see one xsixpainuser.
How to build a $500 i7-3770K Ultimate Computer:http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=392709 ******** 100% Safe Razorless Delid Method! http://www.overclock.net/t/1376206/how-to-delid-your-ivy-bridge-cpu-with-out-a-razor-blade/0_100
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
September 18 2012 23:12 GMT
#5429
So why is it cancelled tonight?
IMNasty
Profile Joined February 2012
663 Posts
September 18 2012 23:16 GMT
#5430
On September 19 2012 08:12 MuseMike wrote:
So why is it cancelled tonight?


incontrol is still on the road and idra doesn't want to deal with painuser alone
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-18 23:19:48
September 18 2012 23:19 GMT
#5431
Edit: Oh shit, wrong thread >.<
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
ULuMuGuLu
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
190 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-18 23:26:11
September 18 2012 23:25 GMT
#5432
On September 19 2012 08:16 IMNasty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 08:12 MuseMike wrote:
So why is it cancelled tonight?


incontrol is still on the road and idra doesn't want to deal with painuser alone

I had to really laugh about this one because i'm sure there's actually a bit truth behind it :-D haha
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3396 Posts
September 18 2012 23:38 GMT
#5433
Such a shame it was canceled.
I'm sure plenty of people wanted to see painusers reaction to the news of warhound removal and that no replacement is forthcoming.
Next week it just won't be the same.
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
September 19 2012 00:43 GMT
#5434
On September 19 2012 08:38 pmp10 wrote:
Such a shame it was canceled.
I'm sure plenty of people wanted to see painusers reaction to the news of warhound removal and that no replacement is forthcoming.
Next week it just won't be the same.


It will still be removed next week
"En taro adun, Executor."
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 19 2012 03:50 GMT
#5435
next week we will be twice as awesome with 4x as much painuser sirs.. I PROMISE!
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
September 19 2012 03:54 GMT
#5436
with that said...

but geoff!!!
byah!
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
September 19 2012 10:59 GMT
#5437
--- Nuked ---
SME
Profile Joined September 2012
United States3 Posts
September 19 2012 14:48 GMT
#5438
On September 19 2012 12:50 iNcontroL wrote:
next week we will be twice as awesome with 4x as much painuser sirs.. I PROMISE!


Haha, then I am really looking forward to next week!
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
September 19 2012 14:53 GMT
#5439
On September 19 2012 12:50 iNcontroL wrote:
next week we will be twice as awesome with 4x as much painuser sirs.. I PROMISE!


Hopefully you won't have forgotten all about WCS Europe by then!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 19 2012 16:11 GMT
#5440
On September 19 2012 23:53 revel8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2012 12:50 iNcontroL wrote:
next week we will be twice as awesome with 4x as much painuser sirs.. I PROMISE!


Hopefully you won't have forgotten all about WCS Europe by then!


We won't An EG guy won it bro! We are contractually mandated to talk about it.

Joking aside.. nah, I look forward to ITG each week and this one was just pinched by schedules. Not bad considering we've only missed like 2-3 weeks out of the 60?
Prev 1 270 271 272 273 274 496 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 19m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzStarbuck 92
StarCraft: Brood War
Dewaltoss 134
HiyA 15
Bale 11
Other Games
Grubby3682
FrodaN1127
Mlord478
shahzam420
C9.Mang0191
Sick184
ArmadaUGS127
UpATreeSC48
Chillindude30
JuggernautJason21
ZombieGrub5
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick35938
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 11
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 247
• StrangeGG 86
• musti20045 41
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1064
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 19m
WardiTV Weekly
14h 19m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 3h
The PondCast
1d 13h
Replay Cast
2 days
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CrankTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
4 days
Serral vs Bunny
ByuN vs GgMaChine
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
RSL Revival
5 days
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.