EPT[Show] Inside The Game - Official Thread - Page 274
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mememolly
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Jarree
Finland1004 Posts
 .on puck: wow that was well handled by incontrol. props man | ||
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makedajuiceboxwhet
United States28 Posts
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corpuscle
United States1967 Posts
On September 26 2012 09:24 mememolly wrote: first caller trolling? "I've done research . . ." dude you haven't, just stop Yeah, this. He was either trolling or grossly misinformed, but, in case people couldn't figure it out on their own, literally everything he said was wrong. "Female" does not refer exclusively to biological sex, it encompasses both sex and gender. A trans woman would be offended if you said that she isn't "female" (and, of course, an FtM would be offended if you said he isn't "male.") | ||
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neurosx
Luxembourg1096 Posts
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AndAgain
United States2621 Posts
On September 26 2012 09:29 corpuscle wrote: Yeah, this. He was either trolling or grossly misinformed, but, in case people couldn't figure it out on their own, literally everything he said was wrong. "Female" does not refer exclusively to biological sex, it encompasses both sex and gender. A trans woman would be offended if you said that she isn't "female" (and, of course, an FtM would be offended if you said he isn't "male.") Well, he was technically correct. Male/female is simply based on what chromosomes you have. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/female The question of what people want to be called is different matter. Personally, I tend to like letting the dictionary be the arbitrator. | ||
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corpuscle
United States1967 Posts
On September 26 2012 09:32 AndAgain wrote: Well, he was technically correct. Male/female is simply based on what chromosomes you have. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/female The question of what people want to be called is different matter. Personally, I tend to like letting the dictionary be the arbitrator. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/female So it depends on which dictionary you ask, which makes the "I trust the dictionary" argument fall apart pretty fast... If you ask literally any trans person if they would prefer to be referred to as "female" or "male," 99.99999% of them will ask you to refer to them as the "sex pronoun" that corresponds with their gender identity. They're referred to as "male to female" or "female to male" for a reason... | ||
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PardonYou
United States1360 Posts
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Holdinga
Bulgaria300 Posts
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coolcor
520 Posts
http://speeddemosarchive.com/Starcraft.html http://speeddemosarchive.com/StarcraftBroodWar.html Starcraft 2 had some activity on the forums for individual level runs on brutal with the max upgrades you can enter the level with. You can find a collection of videos here. http://forum.speeddemosarchive.com/post/starcraft_2_brutal.html More recent records will be on the later pages of the thread though. | ||
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Balgrog
United States1221 Posts
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neurosx
Luxembourg1096 Posts
On September 26 2012 09:47 Holdinga wrote: I don't want to call, but please speak about the DeathAngel smurfing scandal. It was the biggest e-sports drama this week and I want to know your opinions No need to give an attention whore what she seeks | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On September 26 2012 09:56 Balgrog wrote: Oh goatlust "Fucking Roughly" Was totally expecting a "Sounds exciting" from Geoff after that. On September 26 2012 10:06 neurosx wrote: No need to give an attention whore what she seeks I would actually be more interested in their opinion on DeathAngel rather than the girl. | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
On September 26 2012 09:29 corpuscle wrote: Yeah, this. He was either trolling or grossly misinformed, but, in case people couldn't figure it out on their own, literally everything he said was wrong. "Female" does not refer exclusively to biological sex, it encompasses both sex and gender. A trans woman would be offended if you said that she isn't "female" (and, of course, an FtM would be offended if you said he isn't "male.") ![[image loading]](http://uberhumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/wslCe1.jpg) User was warned for this post | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
Nice, you're trying to be cute and snarky. Except you failed. Calling a transgendered person the incorrect gender on purpose is insulting. While you may be perfectly fine going around insulting people, then using some weak justification that "being offended is meaningless", everyone else will be fine shunning you for being a douche. | ||
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corpuscle
United States1967 Posts
That's so out of context it's not even funny, though I guess it's used commonly enough by morons that you might think that what Fry was saying has anything to do with what we're talking about. That quote's from a discussion with Christopher Hitchens about religious people being "offended" by atheistic/scientific arguments, not a blanket justification for whatever prejudices internet assholes want to get away with. Fry spent more than a decade struggling with his homosexuality, I think he'd be pretty goddamn sore if he heard about someone twisting his words into an excuse for intolerant behavior. | ||
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
On September 26 2012 10:25 corpuscle wrote: That's so out of context it's not even funny, though I guess it's used commonly enough by morons that you might think that what Fry was saying has anything to do with what we're talking about. That quote's from a discussion with Christopher Hitchens about religious people being "offended" by atheistic/scientific arguments, not a blanket justification for whatever prejudices internet assholes want to get away with. Fry spent more than a decade struggling with his homosexuality, I think he'd be pretty goddamn sore if he heard about someone twisting his words into an excuse for intolerant behavior. Intolerant behavior? Using the pronoun attributed to someone's sex chromosomes isn't intolerant, it's fucking common sense. Yea, what transgenders go through is hard and they will face many obstacles on the way, but it just needs to be accepted that not everyone is going to refer to them as the preferred gender. Tolerance and equality are unquestionably deserving to all groups of people who don't harm others, but having your everyday, non-derogatory language dictated just to not offend someone? That's absurd and selfish to expect it. That's like being offended that you're referred to as a human if you believe you're a Giraffe. Yea, it's nice if people respect your unharmful lifestyle, but to expect it is mind- boggling. | ||
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johnny123
521 Posts
There was literally zero discussion about the game, just alot of fluffy talk. -Not a single mention of taeja winning dreamhack or any specifics about any of the games, Just the usual fluff "dream hack great production blah blah". heard it all before. -nothing about naniwa and mana falling to code B and what this actually means for gsl. There are ZERO foreigners left , and probably none will be playing for a very long time unless GSL goes giving unworthy invites again. Nothing about flash's performance, and nothing about how sick Rain is looking right now or any kespa players -really boring calls -no talk about hots -a lot of pointless talk about whats the correct term to call transgender people. Miserably boring show i wouldn't lie, its needs a name change, its certainly not inside the game. | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4561 Posts
On September 26 2012 10:34 xrapture wrote: Intolerant behavior? Using the pronoun attributed to someone's sex chromosomes isn't intolerant, it's fucking common sense. Yea, what transgenders go through is hard and they will face many obstacles on the way, but it just needs to be accepted that not everyone is going to refer to them as the preferred gender. Tolerance and equality are unquestionably deserving to all groups of people who don't harm others, but having your everyday, non-derogatory language dictated just to not offend someone? That's absurd and selfish to expect it. That's like being offended that you're referred to as a human if you believe you're a Giraffe. Yea, it's nice if people respect your unharmful lifestyle, but to expect it is mind- boggling. pretty much this. | ||
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corpuscle
United States1967 Posts
On September 26 2012 10:34 xrapture wrote: Intolerant behavior? Using the pronoun attributed to someone's sex chromosomes isn't intolerant, it's fucking common sense. Yea, what transgenders go through is hard and they will face many obstacles on the way, but it just needs to be accepted that not everyone is going to refer to them as the preferred gender. It is intolerant to refer to transgendered people by their "biological sex." Saying that someone who identifies as female is actually a man (or, even in any small way, saying that they're a woman but somehow still less of a woman than a "biological woman") is a total deconstruction of their entire identity. Yea, tolerance and equality are unquestionably deserving to all groups of people who don't harm others, but having your everyday, non-derogatory language dictated just to not offend someone? That's absurd and selfish to expect it. That's like being offended that you're referred to as a human if you believe you're a Giraffe. Yea, it's nice if people respect your rights, but to expect it is mind- boggling. Is it really that difficult to say "she" instead of "he"? It's not like anybody's asking you to bend over backwards and donate ten million dollars to the ADL. It's selfish to insist on not respecting the very personal and intense reasons why a trans person would be offended by you referring to them as the wrong pronoun when it's an utterly minor thing for you. There's this thing in society called common decency where we're nice to people and try to not make them feel bad, even if it's not what we want to do... you don't walk up to fat people and call them fat for no reason, because that's just cruel and unnecessary. You can think inside your head that they're a big fat lazy sack of shit and they shouldn't be allowed to eat McDonald's because they're costing you tax money in healthcare but you keep it to yourself because it's really rude. edit: realize I'm derailing the thread so I'm not gonna bother debating this anymore with you. the point I was originally trying to make is that the caller that said that it's incorrect to refer to a trans woman as "female" was wrong, if you're trying to be tolerant and not offend trans people. if you disagree with whether trans people should be referred to by their identified gender or not, whatever, that's not the point I was originally trying to make. | ||
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