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whatevername
Profile Joined June 2012
471 Posts
September 26 2012 01:43 GMT
#5481
On September 26 2012 09:32 AndAgain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 09:29 corpuscle wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:24 mememolly wrote:
first caller trolling? "I've done research . . ." dude you haven't, just stop



Yeah, this. He was either trolling or grossly misinformed, but, in case people couldn't figure it out on their own, literally everything he said was wrong. "Female" does not refer exclusively to biological sex, it encompasses both sex and gender. A trans woman would be offended if you said that she isn't "female" (and, of course, an FtM would be offended if you said he isn't "male.")


Well, he was technically correct. Male/female is simply based on what chromosomes you have. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/female

The question of what people want to be called is different matter. Personally, I tend to like letting the dictionary be the arbitrator.
Didnt hear the caller, but it is a matter of reality that the neurology of the brain has differences fundamentally from birth between male and female, interests, disposition etc-- it aint a cultural construct. Transgendered in that regard have brains that are neither male nor female. There just wired uniquely.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4501 Posts
September 26 2012 01:47 GMT
#5482
idont even want to red this thread anymore too much off topic
hi. big fan.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
September 26 2012 01:48 GMT
#5483
On September 26 2012 10:34 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 10:25 corpuscle wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:14 xrapture wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:29 corpuscle wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:24 mememolly wrote:
first caller trolling? "I've done research . . ." dude you haven't, just stop



Yeah, this. He was either trolling or grossly misinformed, but, in case people couldn't figure it out on their own, literally everything he said was wrong. "Female" does not refer exclusively to biological sex, it encompasses both sex and gender. A trans woman would be offended if you said that she isn't "female" (and, of course, an FtM would be offended if you said he isn't "male.")


[image loading]


That's so out of context it's not even funny, though I guess it's used commonly enough by morons that you might think that what Fry was saying has anything to do with what we're talking about. That quote's from a discussion with Christopher Hitchens about religious people being "offended" by atheistic/scientific arguments, not a blanket justification for whatever prejudices internet assholes want to get away with. Fry spent more than a decade struggling with his homosexuality, I think he'd be pretty goddamn sore if he heard about someone twisting his words into an excuse for intolerant behavior.


Intolerant behavior? Using the pronoun attributed to someone's sex chromosomes isn't intolerant, it's fucking common sense. Yea, what transgenders go through is hard and they will face many obstacles on the way, but it just needs to be accepted that not everyone is going to refer to them as the preferred gender.

Tolerance and equality are unquestionably deserving to all groups of people who don't harm others, but having your everyday, non-derogatory language dictated just to not offend someone? That's absurd and selfish to expect it. That's like being offended that you're referred to as a human if you believe you're a Giraffe. Yea, it's nice if people respect your unharmful lifestyle, but to expect it is mind- boggling.

Bullshit. There is one and only one reason why you would ever refer to someone by the incorrect gender: because you choose to insult them. You may disagree with transgenderism, it may be contradictory to your beliefs, but this isn't the first time you've have to suck it up and and bite your tongue. As long as you're a person that gives a shit about being a decent human being, you do not go out of your way to disrespect an individual who has done nothing to deserve it.

If you care about being polite, you refer to someone as the correct gender. If you want to be an asshole, say whatever the hell you want, and live with the consequences.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 02:48:12
September 26 2012 02:05 GMT
#5484
--- Nuked ---
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
September 26 2012 02:08 GMT
#5485
On September 26 2012 10:48 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 10:34 xrapture wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:25 corpuscle wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:14 xrapture wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:29 corpuscle wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:24 mememolly wrote:
first caller trolling? "I've done research . . ." dude you haven't, just stop



Yeah, this. He was either trolling or grossly misinformed, but, in case people couldn't figure it out on their own, literally everything he said was wrong. "Female" does not refer exclusively to biological sex, it encompasses both sex and gender. A trans woman would be offended if you said that she isn't "female" (and, of course, an FtM would be offended if you said he isn't "male.")


[image loading]


That's so out of context it's not even funny, though I guess it's used commonly enough by morons that you might think that what Fry was saying has anything to do with what we're talking about. That quote's from a discussion with Christopher Hitchens about religious people being "offended" by atheistic/scientific arguments, not a blanket justification for whatever prejudices internet assholes want to get away with. Fry spent more than a decade struggling with his homosexuality, I think he'd be pretty goddamn sore if he heard about someone twisting his words into an excuse for intolerant behavior.


Intolerant behavior? Using the pronoun attributed to someone's sex chromosomes isn't intolerant, it's fucking common sense. Yea, what transgenders go through is hard and they will face many obstacles on the way, but it just needs to be accepted that not everyone is going to refer to them as the preferred gender.

Tolerance and equality are unquestionably deserving to all groups of people who don't harm others, but having your everyday, non-derogatory language dictated just to not offend someone? That's absurd and selfish to expect it. That's like being offended that you're referred to as a human if you believe you're a Giraffe. Yea, it's nice if people respect your unharmful lifestyle, but to expect it is mind- boggling.

Bullshit. There is one and only one reason why you would ever refer to someone by the incorrect gender: because you choose to insult them. You may disagree with transgenderism, it may be contradictory to your beliefs, but this isn't the first time you've have to suck it up and and bite your tongue. As long as you're a person that gives a shit about being a decent human being, you do not go out of your way to disrespect an individual who has done nothing to deserve it.

If you care about being polite, you refer to someone as the correct gender. If you want to be an asshole, say whatever the hell you want, and live with the consequences.


I agree.

Just don't be an asshole to people; be nice. As weird as it may sound, I can't imagine anything transcending the idea of just being polite and decent to someone. :S.
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
September 26 2012 02:13 GMT
#5486
On September 26 2012 11:08 tshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 10:48 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:34 xrapture wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:25 corpuscle wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:14 xrapture wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:29 corpuscle wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:24 mememolly wrote:
first caller trolling? "I've done research . . ." dude you haven't, just stop



Yeah, this. He was either trolling or grossly misinformed, but, in case people couldn't figure it out on their own, literally everything he said was wrong. "Female" does not refer exclusively to biological sex, it encompasses both sex and gender. A trans woman would be offended if you said that she isn't "female" (and, of course, an FtM would be offended if you said he isn't "male.")


[image loading]


That's so out of context it's not even funny, though I guess it's used commonly enough by morons that you might think that what Fry was saying has anything to do with what we're talking about. That quote's from a discussion with Christopher Hitchens about religious people being "offended" by atheistic/scientific arguments, not a blanket justification for whatever prejudices internet assholes want to get away with. Fry spent more than a decade struggling with his homosexuality, I think he'd be pretty goddamn sore if he heard about someone twisting his words into an excuse for intolerant behavior.


Intolerant behavior? Using the pronoun attributed to someone's sex chromosomes isn't intolerant, it's fucking common sense. Yea, what transgenders go through is hard and they will face many obstacles on the way, but it just needs to be accepted that not everyone is going to refer to them as the preferred gender.

Tolerance and equality are unquestionably deserving to all groups of people who don't harm others, but having your everyday, non-derogatory language dictated just to not offend someone? That's absurd and selfish to expect it. That's like being offended that you're referred to as a human if you believe you're a Giraffe. Yea, it's nice if people respect your unharmful lifestyle, but to expect it is mind- boggling.

Bullshit. There is one and only one reason why you would ever refer to someone by the incorrect gender: because you choose to insult them. You may disagree with transgenderism, it may be contradictory to your beliefs, but this isn't the first time you've have to suck it up and and bite your tongue. As long as you're a person that gives a shit about being a decent human being, you do not go out of your way to disrespect an individual who has done nothing to deserve it.

If you care about being polite, you refer to someone as the correct gender. If you want to be an asshole, say whatever the hell you want, and live with the consequences.


I agree.

Just don't be an asshole to people; be nice. As weird as it may sound, I can't imagine anything transcending the idea of just being polite and decent to someone. :S.


Because Soldiers in this country die for our right not to be?
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
September 26 2012 02:13 GMT
#5487
Well, he was technically correct


And on the internet, that's all that really matters.
Rezudox
Profile Joined July 2012
207 Posts
September 26 2012 02:14 GMT
#5488
Mp3 for Inside The Game Episode 54.

http://archive.org/download/InsideTheGameEpisode54/InsideTheGameEpisode54.mp3 (Right click, save as.)

Enjoy.
Jellikit
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden258 Posts
September 26 2012 02:19 GMT
#5489
thankyou Rezudox, you are very kind
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
September 26 2012 03:17 GMT
#5490
On September 26 2012 11:13 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 11:08 tshi wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:48 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:34 xrapture wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:25 corpuscle wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:14 xrapture wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:29 corpuscle wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:24 mememolly wrote:
first caller trolling? "I've done research . . ." dude you haven't, just stop



Yeah, this. He was either trolling or grossly misinformed, but, in case people couldn't figure it out on their own, literally everything he said was wrong. "Female" does not refer exclusively to biological sex, it encompasses both sex and gender. A trans woman would be offended if you said that she isn't "female" (and, of course, an FtM would be offended if you said he isn't "male.")


[image loading]


That's so out of context it's not even funny, though I guess it's used commonly enough by morons that you might think that what Fry was saying has anything to do with what we're talking about. That quote's from a discussion with Christopher Hitchens about religious people being "offended" by atheistic/scientific arguments, not a blanket justification for whatever prejudices internet assholes want to get away with. Fry spent more than a decade struggling with his homosexuality, I think he'd be pretty goddamn sore if he heard about someone twisting his words into an excuse for intolerant behavior.


Intolerant behavior? Using the pronoun attributed to someone's sex chromosomes isn't intolerant, it's fucking common sense. Yea, what transgenders go through is hard and they will face many obstacles on the way, but it just needs to be accepted that not everyone is going to refer to them as the preferred gender.

Tolerance and equality are unquestionably deserving to all groups of people who don't harm others, but having your everyday, non-derogatory language dictated just to not offend someone? That's absurd and selfish to expect it. That's like being offended that you're referred to as a human if you believe you're a Giraffe. Yea, it's nice if people respect your unharmful lifestyle, but to expect it is mind- boggling.

Bullshit. There is one and only one reason why you would ever refer to someone by the incorrect gender: because you choose to insult them. You may disagree with transgenderism, it may be contradictory to your beliefs, but this isn't the first time you've have to suck it up and and bite your tongue. As long as you're a person that gives a shit about being a decent human being, you do not go out of your way to disrespect an individual who has done nothing to deserve it.

If you care about being polite, you refer to someone as the correct gender. If you want to be an asshole, say whatever the hell you want, and live with the consequences.


I agree.

Just don't be an asshole to people; be nice. As weird as it may sound, I can't imagine anything transcending the idea of just being polite and decent to someone. :S.


Because Soldiers in this country die for our right not to be?

I'm not saying you don't have the right; you certainly do. My post was more about the choice of being nice to someone, you know, just being pleasant, etc.
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
September 26 2012 03:19 GMT
#5491
sigh, show today wasn't as great as usual
maybe I've just been spoiled cuz they were complete gods recently tho.
can i get my estro logo back pls
Mauldo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States750 Posts
September 26 2012 03:26 GMT
#5492
On September 26 2012 11:13 xrapture wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 11:08 tshi wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:48 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:34 xrapture wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:25 corpuscle wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:14 xrapture wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:29 corpuscle wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:24 mememolly wrote:
first caller trolling? "I've done research . . ." dude you haven't, just stop



Yeah, this. He was either trolling or grossly misinformed, but, in case people couldn't figure it out on their own, literally everything he said was wrong. "Female" does not refer exclusively to biological sex, it encompasses both sex and gender. A trans woman would be offended if you said that she isn't "female" (and, of course, an FtM would be offended if you said he isn't "male.")


[image loading]


That's so out of context it's not even funny, though I guess it's used commonly enough by morons that you might think that what Fry was saying has anything to do with what we're talking about. That quote's from a discussion with Christopher Hitchens about religious people being "offended" by atheistic/scientific arguments, not a blanket justification for whatever prejudices internet assholes want to get away with. Fry spent more than a decade struggling with his homosexuality, I think he'd be pretty goddamn sore if he heard about someone twisting his words into an excuse for intolerant behavior.


Intolerant behavior? Using the pronoun attributed to someone's sex chromosomes isn't intolerant, it's fucking common sense. Yea, what transgenders go through is hard and they will face many obstacles on the way, but it just needs to be accepted that not everyone is going to refer to them as the preferred gender.

Tolerance and equality are unquestionably deserving to all groups of people who don't harm others, but having your everyday, non-derogatory language dictated just to not offend someone? That's absurd and selfish to expect it. That's like being offended that you're referred to as a human if you believe you're a Giraffe. Yea, it's nice if people respect your unharmful lifestyle, but to expect it is mind- boggling.

Bullshit. There is one and only one reason why you would ever refer to someone by the incorrect gender: because you choose to insult them. You may disagree with transgenderism, it may be contradictory to your beliefs, but this isn't the first time you've have to suck it up and and bite your tongue. As long as you're a person that gives a shit about being a decent human being, you do not go out of your way to disrespect an individual who has done nothing to deserve it.

If you care about being polite, you refer to someone as the correct gender. If you want to be an asshole, say whatever the hell you want, and live with the consequences.


I agree.

Just don't be an asshole to people; be nice. As weird as it may sound, I can't imagine anything transcending the idea of just being polite and decent to someone. :S.


Because Soldiers in this country die for our right not to be?


You...

You seriously just brought out the "soldiers die for our freedoms" card?

Really?

You want to be intolerant THAT much. You feel strongly enough about being a jerk that you have to play that card? Come on man. The person wants to be called female, call her female. What the fuck does it hurt you? It hurts you as much as you have to be polite and look out for someone else's feelings.

I mean...I'm actually kind of insulted right now. I have many friends in the armed forces, and I doubt any of them will say "Yeah, I went and fought in Iraq to defend some guy's ability to be technically correct and tell a transgender woman that she's a male, because FUCK YOU PENIS." Sure, you have the freedom to call someone anything you want, but it doesn't mean you have to be a jerk.
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
September 26 2012 03:39 GMT
#5493
On September 26 2012 12:26 Mauldo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 11:13 xrapture wrote:
On September 26 2012 11:08 tshi wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:48 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:34 xrapture wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:25 corpuscle wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:14 xrapture wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:29 corpuscle wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:24 mememolly wrote:
first caller trolling? "I've done research . . ." dude you haven't, just stop



Yeah, this. He was either trolling or grossly misinformed, but, in case people couldn't figure it out on their own, literally everything he said was wrong. "Female" does not refer exclusively to biological sex, it encompasses both sex and gender. A trans woman would be offended if you said that she isn't "female" (and, of course, an FtM would be offended if you said he isn't "male.")


[image loading]


That's so out of context it's not even funny, though I guess it's used commonly enough by morons that you might think that what Fry was saying has anything to do with what we're talking about. That quote's from a discussion with Christopher Hitchens about religious people being "offended" by atheistic/scientific arguments, not a blanket justification for whatever prejudices internet assholes want to get away with. Fry spent more than a decade struggling with his homosexuality, I think he'd be pretty goddamn sore if he heard about someone twisting his words into an excuse for intolerant behavior.


Intolerant behavior? Using the pronoun attributed to someone's sex chromosomes isn't intolerant, it's fucking common sense. Yea, what transgenders go through is hard and they will face many obstacles on the way, but it just needs to be accepted that not everyone is going to refer to them as the preferred gender.

Tolerance and equality are unquestionably deserving to all groups of people who don't harm others, but having your everyday, non-derogatory language dictated just to not offend someone? That's absurd and selfish to expect it. That's like being offended that you're referred to as a human if you believe you're a Giraffe. Yea, it's nice if people respect your unharmful lifestyle, but to expect it is mind- boggling.

Bullshit. There is one and only one reason why you would ever refer to someone by the incorrect gender: because you choose to insult them. You may disagree with transgenderism, it may be contradictory to your beliefs, but this isn't the first time you've have to suck it up and and bite your tongue. As long as you're a person that gives a shit about being a decent human being, you do not go out of your way to disrespect an individual who has done nothing to deserve it.

If you care about being polite, you refer to someone as the correct gender. If you want to be an asshole, say whatever the hell you want, and live with the consequences.


I agree.

Just don't be an asshole to people; be nice. As weird as it may sound, I can't imagine anything transcending the idea of just being polite and decent to someone. :S.


Because Soldiers in this country die for our right not to be?


You...

You seriously just brought out the "soldiers die for our freedoms" card?

Really?

You want to be intolerant THAT much. You feel strongly enough about being a jerk that you have to play that card? Come on man. The person wants to be called female, call her female. What the fuck does it hurt you? It hurts you as much as you have to be polite and look out for someone else's feelings.

I mean...I'm actually kind of insulted right now. I have many friends in the armed forces, and I doubt any of them will say "Yeah, I went and fought in Iraq to defend some guy's ability to be technically correct and tell a transgender woman that she's a male, because FUCK YOU PENIS." Sure, you have the freedom to call someone anything you want, but it doesn't mean you have to be a jerk.


He's clearly trolling at this point, just ignore it. :/
From the void I am born into wave and particle
bakarin
Profile Joined August 2012
Japan121 Posts
September 26 2012 03:43 GMT
#5494
On September 26 2012 10:25 corpuscle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 10:14 xrapture wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:29 corpuscle wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:24 mememolly wrote:
first caller trolling? "I've done research . . ." dude you haven't, just stop



Yeah, this. He was either trolling or grossly misinformed, but, in case people couldn't figure it out on their own, literally everything he said was wrong. "Female" does not refer exclusively to biological sex, it encompasses both sex and gender. A trans woman would be offended if you said that she isn't "female" (and, of course, an FtM would be offended if you said he isn't "male.")


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


That's so out of context it's not even funny, though I guess it's used commonly enough by morons that you might think that what Fry was saying has anything to do with what we're talking about. That quote's from a discussion with Christopher Hitchens about religious people being "offended" by atheistic/scientific arguments, not a blanket justification for whatever prejudices internet assholes want to get away with. Fry spent more than a decade struggling with his homosexuality, I think he'd be pretty goddamn sore if he heard about someone twisting his words into an excuse for intolerant behavior.


Yeah because religious people shouldn't be offended and should just fuck off and not transgendered people am I right.

akari~n
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
September 26 2012 03:51 GMT
#5495
On September 26 2012 12:43 bakarin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 10:25 corpuscle wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:14 xrapture wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:29 corpuscle wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:24 mememolly wrote:
first caller trolling? "I've done research . . ." dude you haven't, just stop



Yeah, this. He was either trolling or grossly misinformed, but, in case people couldn't figure it out on their own, literally everything he said was wrong. "Female" does not refer exclusively to biological sex, it encompasses both sex and gender. A trans woman would be offended if you said that she isn't "female" (and, of course, an FtM would be offended if you said he isn't "male.")


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


That's so out of context it's not even funny, though I guess it's used commonly enough by morons that you might think that what Fry was saying has anything to do with what we're talking about. That quote's from a discussion with Christopher Hitchens about religious people being "offended" by atheistic/scientific arguments, not a blanket justification for whatever prejudices internet assholes want to get away with. Fry spent more than a decade struggling with his homosexuality, I think he'd be pretty goddamn sore if he heard about someone twisting his words into an excuse for intolerant behavior.


Yeah because religious people shouldn't be offended and should just fuck off and not transgendered people am I right.



I didn't say I agreed with what Fry said, I just explained that what he said was being taken out of context.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 26 2012 06:07 GMT
#5496
On September 26 2012 12:43 bakarin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 10:25 corpuscle wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:14 xrapture wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:29 corpuscle wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:24 mememolly wrote:
first caller trolling? "I've done research . . ." dude you haven't, just stop



Yeah, this. He was either trolling or grossly misinformed, but, in case people couldn't figure it out on their own, literally everything he said was wrong. "Female" does not refer exclusively to biological sex, it encompasses both sex and gender. A trans woman would be offended if you said that she isn't "female" (and, of course, an FtM would be offended if you said he isn't "male.")


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


That's so out of context it's not even funny, though I guess it's used commonly enough by morons that you might think that what Fry was saying has anything to do with what we're talking about. That quote's from a discussion with Christopher Hitchens about religious people being "offended" by atheistic/scientific arguments, not a blanket justification for whatever prejudices internet assholes want to get away with. Fry spent more than a decade struggling with his homosexuality, I think he'd be pretty goddamn sore if he heard about someone twisting his words into an excuse for intolerant behavior.


Yeah because religious people shouldn't be offended and should just fuck off and not transgendered people am I right.



The point of the Fry/Hitchens paraphrase is that the phrase 'I'm offended' shouldn't be allowed to shut down discussion. It's commonly mistaken for a blanket defense of offensiveness, but that's pretty far from the original intent.
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mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 08:51:56
September 26 2012 08:48 GMT
#5497
On September 26 2012 10:48 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 10:34 xrapture wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:25 corpuscle wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:14 xrapture wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:29 corpuscle wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:24 mememolly wrote:
first caller trolling? "I've done research . . ." dude you haven't, just stop



Yeah, this. He was either trolling or grossly misinformed, but, in case people couldn't figure it out on their own, literally everything he said was wrong. "Female" does not refer exclusively to biological sex, it encompasses both sex and gender. A trans woman would be offended if you said that she isn't "female" (and, of course, an FtM would be offended if you said he isn't "male.")


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That's so out of context it's not even funny, though I guess it's used commonly enough by morons that you might think that what Fry was saying has anything to do with what we're talking about. That quote's from a discussion with Christopher Hitchens about religious people being "offended" by atheistic/scientific arguments, not a blanket justification for whatever prejudices internet assholes want to get away with. Fry spent more than a decade struggling with his homosexuality, I think he'd be pretty goddamn sore if he heard about someone twisting his words into an excuse for intolerant behavior.


Intolerant behavior? Using the pronoun attributed to someone's sex chromosomes isn't intolerant, it's fucking common sense. Yea, what transgenders go through is hard and they will face many obstacles on the way, but it just needs to be accepted that not everyone is going to refer to them as the preferred gender.

Tolerance and equality are unquestionably deserving to all groups of people who don't harm others, but having your everyday, non-derogatory language dictated just to not offend someone? That's absurd and selfish to expect it. That's like being offended that you're referred to as a human if you believe you're a Giraffe. Yea, it's nice if people respect your unharmful lifestyle, but to expect it is mind- boggling.

Bullshit. There is one and only one reason why you would ever refer to someone by the incorrect gender: because you choose to insult them. You may disagree with transgenderism, it may be contradictory to your beliefs, but this isn't the first time you've have to suck it up and and bite your tongue. As long as you're a person that gives a shit about being a decent human being, you do not go out of your way to disrespect an individual who has done nothing to deserve it.

If you care about being polite, you refer to someone as the correct gender. If you want to be an asshole, say whatever the hell you want, and live with the consequences.


This guy nails it, just a be a nice considerate human being, call someone whatever they want to be called not something "technically correct" (which is just a convenient cover for being an asshole).

On September 26 2012 11:13 xrapture wrote:
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On September 26 2012 11:08 tshi wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:48 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:34 xrapture wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:25 corpuscle wrote:
On September 26 2012 10:14 xrapture wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:29 corpuscle wrote:
On September 26 2012 09:24 mememolly wrote:
first caller trolling? "I've done research . . ." dude you haven't, just stop



Yeah, this. He was either trolling or grossly misinformed, but, in case people couldn't figure it out on their own, literally everything he said was wrong. "Female" does not refer exclusively to biological sex, it encompasses both sex and gender. A trans woman would be offended if you said that she isn't "female" (and, of course, an FtM would be offended if you said he isn't "male.")


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That's so out of context it's not even funny, though I guess it's used commonly enough by morons that you might think that what Fry was saying has anything to do with what we're talking about. That quote's from a discussion with Christopher Hitchens about religious people being "offended" by atheistic/scientific arguments, not a blanket justification for whatever prejudices internet assholes want to get away with. Fry spent more than a decade struggling with his homosexuality, I think he'd be pretty goddamn sore if he heard about someone twisting his words into an excuse for intolerant behavior.


Intolerant behavior? Using the pronoun attributed to someone's sex chromosomes isn't intolerant, it's fucking common sense. Yea, what transgenders go through is hard and they will face many obstacles on the way, but it just needs to be accepted that not everyone is going to refer to them as the preferred gender.

Tolerance and equality are unquestionably deserving to all groups of people who don't harm others, but having your everyday, non-derogatory language dictated just to not offend someone? That's absurd and selfish to expect it. That's like being offended that you're referred to as a human if you believe you're a Giraffe. Yea, it's nice if people respect your unharmful lifestyle, but to expect it is mind- boggling.

Bullshit. There is one and only one reason why you would ever refer to someone by the incorrect gender: because you choose to insult them. You may disagree with transgenderism, it may be contradictory to your beliefs, but this isn't the first time you've have to suck it up and and bite your tongue. As long as you're a person that gives a shit about being a decent human being, you do not go out of your way to disrespect an individual who has done nothing to deserve it.

If you care about being polite, you refer to someone as the correct gender. If you want to be an asshole, say whatever the hell you want, and live with the consequences.


I agree.

Just don't be an asshole to people; be nice. As weird as it may sound, I can't imagine anything transcending the idea of just being polite and decent to someone. :S.


Because Soldiers in this country die for our right not to be?


rofl, no wonder you stopped posting after this, you had no argument, it's good to see ignorance get shut down
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On September 26 2012 11:14 Rezudox wrote:
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September 26 2012 09:49 GMT
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On September 26 2012 11:13 xrapture wrote:
Because Soldiers in this country die for our right not to be?

Just because you have the right to be a dick to people doesn't mean that you're gonna be excempt from people calling you a douchebag when you do
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Last Edited: 2012-09-26 10:30:20
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I cried from laughter when djWHEAT made an analogy about "neighboor" combatex.

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