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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
April 24 2011 03:49 GMT
#121
On April 24 2011 11:52 Khanz wrote:
"Terran: just play a little bit and you will own
Protoss: play a lot and you will be unbeatable
Zerg: hum... T.T"

I think i can go sleep now.


Hahaha,<3 Nestea, you're my favorite SC2 player for a reason
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
meep
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1699 Posts
April 24 2011 03:51 GMT
#122
Nestea is so boss
閑静 しずか (ノ・_・)ノ
peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
April 24 2011 03:51 GMT
#123
Thanks for the interviews / house tours always appreciate them! "omg a void ray" lawl well done
Aus.Force
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1278 Posts
April 24 2011 03:52 GMT
#124
thanks so much artosis <3
"no need for cinema, just watch special taktiks" - white-ra
Xkalibert
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1404 Posts
April 24 2011 03:52 GMT
#125
On April 24 2011 12:40 Enervate wrote:
Lol at the guy who walks in on the MVP interview.

Thx for the interviews Artosis!



That's IMYongHwa. the protoss player they interview
Castrophy
Profile Joined November 2010
United States232 Posts
April 24 2011 03:53 GMT
#126
IM definatly made a fan out of me with what they plan on doing with foriegners.

Thanks a lot for theese videos Artosis I really enjoy them.

I'd love it if you could get us inside the Slayers house!
spybreak
Profile Joined October 2010
United States684 Posts
April 24 2011 03:54 GMT
#127
Hmm I wonder who will be the first foreigner who will be accepted in the IM house.
gozima
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada602 Posts
April 24 2011 03:55 GMT
#128
On April 24 2011 12:38 KevinIX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 12:29 SilverPotato wrote:
On April 24 2011 12:18 infinity2k9 wrote:
On April 24 2011 12:04 SilverPotato wrote:
On April 24 2011 12:00 Mailing wrote:
Weakest? Hardly.

Maybe hardest to play, but even that is stretching it.

I'm sorry but it's not beta anymore...

Yeah T is much harder than zerg and especially toss.


How? Mechanically? Zerg is clearly harder mechanically, just the nature of the race and balancing drone/unit production.

To be honest balancing drones/unit is way easier than having to constantly remember to every...
17 seconds make SCVs
30 seconds make Marines
45 seconds make Tanks
42 seconds make Vikings
With each of those things going at a different pace all in different and constantly changing order.

Added to the need to constant add production facilities, expansions, upgrades, and manage building placement, like clockwork over and over again, while managing an army with some of the most micro intensive units (marine micro isn't as easy as it looks, especially when you snap back to your army and see a wall of green rolling towards it)

90% of the games a Terran player loses is because of the added up time of missed unit production resulting in unspent minerals and overall weaker armies. Something that can't happen to Zerg by the nature of your play, and something that doesn't effect a protoss player's play style (usually a P leaves some supply open for warp ins).


Honestly, all SC2 mechanics are nothing compared to BW. No race is hard compared to BW. You youngins just need to suck it up. Protoss, Terran, and Zerg (yes Zerg too) are not hard.

The hard part is not the race mechanics. People need to stop judging which race is harder than which race, because none of that matters. If I am missing production cycles, it's because I'm bad. Not because my race is "hard".


I could not agree more. I don't think it's even humanly possible for Blizz to further dumb down the mechanics in SC2.

At the highest levels of play, mechanics aren't what determine whether or not someone wins.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
April 24 2011 03:55 GMT
#129
Maybe depending on how the Rakaka event turns out, perhaps the winner can be offered a chance to join IM? That'll be pretty cool. Thorzain seems like a good kid with a lot of potential, for example (though I heard he's busy with school?).
koreanfuture
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada5 Posts
April 24 2011 03:56 GMT
#130

Artosis: What do you think about Balance?

IMNestea:
Terran: Practice for just a little while, and you'll be great
Protoss: If you get good at it, it just seems unbeatable
Zerg: Sad.....

That could not have been said any better. Coming from IMNestea :D
Pretty much explains the current situation very precisely.
TrANCE,
Profile Joined December 2010
301 Posts
April 24 2011 04:00 GMT
#131
Title of Terran is the weakest race would have been insta closed if it was posted by anyone else. Nice interviews and really nice casting with the TSL last night
Kolvacs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1203 Posts
April 24 2011 04:04 GMT
#132
The reason Terran seems "weak" is because for those people who have been playing since beta, you were used to being able to walk to your opponents base in 5 seconds. Now, with the bigger maps, Zerg has more time to build an army / prepare.

Just like Zerg had to adapt against Terran, Terran now has to adapt against Zergs.
Skipton
Profile Joined December 2010
United States707 Posts
April 24 2011 04:06 GMT
#133
It's really puzzling that IM does not have a sponsor being the most successful SC2 team up until this point. I really hope they get a large sponsor soon because if there's one team that deserves it, it's IM.
Elite__
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada976 Posts
April 24 2011 04:06 GMT
#134
artosis, thanks as always for these videos, they are really great
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
April 24 2011 04:06 GMT
#135
On April 24 2011 13:04 Kolvacs wrote:
The reason Terran seems "weak" is because for MVP, who has been playing since beta, is used to being able to walk to your opponents base in 5 seconds.

Fixed your post to make it relevant. Yea, your right. MVP needs to stop hoping for Steppes of War in the GSL.
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
-FoX
Profile Joined November 2010
United States479 Posts
April 24 2011 04:09 GMT
#136
Losira hella jacked that microphone. Oh my god.
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
April 24 2011 04:10 GMT
#137
So is IM sponsored now?
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
-FoX
Profile Joined November 2010
United States479 Posts
April 24 2011 04:10 GMT
#138
Wow, I wonder which foreigner IM is going to recruit. This is big news for any top players without a team.
Mitchlew
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia428 Posts
April 24 2011 04:13 GMT
#139
"Terran is weakest race"
MC ges beaten by Thorzain and polt.
Jinro beats San and clide beats nestea.

Makes sense yo.
Yuriegh
Profile Joined July 2010
United States327 Posts
April 24 2011 04:15 GMT
#140
I'm thinking IdrA is probably going to say something about this.
I got shot through a place not long ago I thought I knew the place so well
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