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On April 29 2011 06:06 Turgid wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2011 06:04 Rashid wrote:
Btw, i'm terribly glad that at least ONE pro player admits that Terran is the weakest. I mean, Terran got nerfed in virtually every single patch since retail. What the hell do you guys expect?
The 'OMG TERRAN IS OP ZERG IS UP' bandwagon has gone waaay to long and needs to fcuking stop. It's bad enough that Terran players in general are struggling against Z and P on the ladder, it's even worse that all their effort gets passed off as 'OMG TERRAN IMBA LOL' mentality cultivated by overly self-entitled Zs and Ps. It's freaking annoying. I dunno dude, Terrans seem to do pretty well for themselves on the ladder. No idea where this attitude is coming from.
Dude ... the LADDER probably wasnt why MVP made that comment, but rather his experiences on the larger GSL maps. It is really hard for a Terran to move out on these maps, because bio armies can be surrounded relatively easily and mech is immobile to begin with. This makes Terran harder to play on these maps compared to the smaller ladder maps.
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On April 29 2011 16:31 Rabiator wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2011 06:06 Turgid wrote:On April 29 2011 06:04 Rashid wrote:
Btw, i'm terribly glad that at least ONE pro player admits that Terran is the weakest. I mean, Terran got nerfed in virtually every single patch since retail. What the hell do you guys expect?
The 'OMG TERRAN IS OP ZERG IS UP' bandwagon has gone waaay to long and needs to fcuking stop. It's bad enough that Terran players in general are struggling against Z and P on the ladder, it's even worse that all their effort gets passed off as 'OMG TERRAN IMBA LOL' mentality cultivated by overly self-entitled Zs and Ps. It's freaking annoying. I dunno dude, Terrans seem to do pretty well for themselves on the ladder. No idea where this attitude is coming from. Dude ... the LADDER probably wasnt why MVP made that comment, but rather his experiences on the larger GSL maps. It is really hard for a Terran to move out on these maps, because bio armies can be surrounded relatively easily and mech is immobile to begin with. This makes Terran harder to play on these maps compared to the smaller ladder maps.
GSL world championship 50% terrans in semifinal. TvT final.
GSL Jan 75% terran in semifinal. TvT final.
7 out of 16 are Terran in GSL may.
MVP won the world championship on large GSL maps, so claiming the race is weak is just not true. Also MC (arguably the best player in the world) lost to Thorzain on large maps.
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In the current state of ESPORTS, it doesn't really seem like Terran is doing poorly. They're still at the top of every tournament (albeit behind Protoss) and I don't think MVP really has much of a case.
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On April 29 2011 16:45 karpo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2011 16:31 Rabiator wrote:On April 29 2011 06:06 Turgid wrote:On April 29 2011 06:04 Rashid wrote:
Btw, i'm terribly glad that at least ONE pro player admits that Terran is the weakest. I mean, Terran got nerfed in virtually every single patch since retail. What the hell do you guys expect?
The 'OMG TERRAN IS OP ZERG IS UP' bandwagon has gone waaay to long and needs to fcuking stop. It's bad enough that Terran players in general are struggling against Z and P on the ladder, it's even worse that all their effort gets passed off as 'OMG TERRAN IMBA LOL' mentality cultivated by overly self-entitled Zs and Ps. It's freaking annoying. I dunno dude, Terrans seem to do pretty well for themselves on the ladder. No idea where this attitude is coming from. Dude ... the LADDER probably wasnt why MVP made that comment, but rather his experiences on the larger GSL maps. It is really hard for a Terran to move out on these maps, because bio armies can be surrounded relatively easily and mech is immobile to begin with. This makes Terran harder to play on these maps compared to the smaller ladder maps. GSL world championship 50% terrans in semifinal. TvT final. GSL Jan 75% terran in semifinal. TvT final. 7 out of 16 are Terran in GSL may. MVP won the world championship on large GSL maps, so claiming the race is weak is just not true. Also MC (arguably the best player in the world) lost to Thorzain on large maps.
Oh man awesome statistics. Hey let me grab some random statistics too!
In all GSL Code S finals including the first 3 seasons not labeled Code S, the winners were by race in order:
Zerg
Zerg
Protoss
Terran
Protoss
Clearly by this unbiased analysis we can see that Terran is now underpowered!
Come on man.
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Bump. Funny how the big maps have not really been hindering the Terrans.
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On September 22 2011 09:17 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Bump. Funny how the big maps have not really been hindering the Terrans.
Considering the current meta game and how there are more terrans than the other races times 2. I am not sure bumping this is going to attract any good attention. Seems like a subtle flamebait.
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I don't always necro.
But when I do, I don't add anything to the discussion.
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well this can serve as a good example of how just cause your a top progamer doesnt mean your always right.
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On September 22 2011 09:21 lim1017 wrote:
well this can serve as a good example of how just cause your a top progamer doesnt mean your always right.
No but everyone agreed with him when he made the 1/1/1 comment. Hmmmm, just something to think about  .
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United States1655 Posts
Its interesting to see. I'm not surprised that a player thinks his own race is the weakest, and I doubt it feels the exact same way right now (even if he still feels like Terran is still the weakest, I doubt his feelings are as strong). Hopefully people can be smart enough to keep any flaming out of here O.o
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At first I was like, "What, again? And now of all times?"
And then I was like, "Oh. =_____=;;"
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On September 22 2011 09:21 lim1017 wrote:
well this can serve as a good example of how just cause your a top progamer doesnt mean your always right.
Unless I remember wrong...from several months ago...he just said that terrans benefit the least from overly large maps. Which I guess is accurate.
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Terran was easily the weakest race at the time of this interview, the game and balance can change without patches lol
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On September 22 2011 09:17 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Bump. Funny how the big maps have not really been hindering the Terrans.
Why would you bump this?
So people have yet another place to whine about terrans?
I mean it's not like people are already doing that absolutely everywhere, or anything like that. -_-
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On September 22 2011 09:26 Sarang wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2011 09:17 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Bump. Funny how the big maps have not really been hindering the Terrans. Why would you bump this? So people have yet another place to whine about terrans? I mean it's not like people are already doing that absolutely everywhere, or anything like that. -_-
Yes, this was a dumb idea.
Playing Protoss sucks right now, but being Terran these days is like being hated for being born into a rich family.
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On September 22 2011 09:21 killa_robot wrote:
I don't always necro.
But when I do, I don't add anything to the discussion.
^ The most interesting mortician in the world.
I do find this ironic--the fear that Terrans had of the "big maps." I also remember a point, about a month after this, when commentators starting noting how uber-powerful T drops were on maps like Crevasse. Terran mobility shines on the bigger maps.
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"where is my "protoss is the weakest race" MC, oGs house tour" thread artosis?
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Did you guys forget the "imbalanced" show? Clearly protoss is and has been OP for along time now.
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Canada9720 Posts
this is a pretty specific interview thread, and while great content, probably isn't worth a bump like this. be careful when posting in an old thread, please
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