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Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
April 13 2011 04:57 GMT
#181
I wonder what the deal with the stream lag is. I didn't have any. It might be some kind of regional thing(I'm in southern California, for reference) that justin.tv was having tonight. I guess NASL will have to talk to them and figure it out.
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pzea469
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1520 Posts
April 13 2011 04:59 GMT
#182
I think the biggest problem for me was that it seemed to want to cram too many things in. Definitely need a break in between sets, even if its just 5 minutes or so. The match just ended and BAM next match. Set ends and BAM next set, forget the last game, new game.

Also I think they need to have all the players be there live like GSL. No point in inviting koreans if its just gonna lag and we are left with questionable results. If non-US players can't make it over here to play then it's too bad. GSL works the same way. I think that a lot of good things come from having the players there, and having them talk about their opponents and things like that. UFC style, hyping it up. And of course, hearing a crowd roaring does wonders. Maybe this isn't what this tournament was going for though so idk, but imo offline matches is the way to go.
Kill the Deathball
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
April 13 2011 05:01 GMT
#183
Loading screen music, music pregame, transition music, music at the beginning of the game. I didn't realize how much I loved this about gsl/tsl until watching tonight and there being no music.

Production tab.
Generally more active observing. Sheth already had ultralisks out before there were any clues he had even started hive tech.

Also if you're going to hype vibe's apm, show it occasionally!
CPTBadAss
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States594 Posts
April 13 2011 05:03 GMT
#184
I know that this is going to sound a bit silly but I'd love to see less ads. I missed all the in-between game banter because there were ads or back-to-back ads.
I'll keep on struggling, 'cause that's the measure of a man | "That was the plan: To give him some hope, and then crush him" -Stephano
Soulish
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1403 Posts
April 13 2011 05:04 GMT
#185
I don't have much to say but the "I'm going to kick your grass" thing was honestly really dumb
me all in, he drone drone drone, me win
Phtes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States370 Posts
April 13 2011 05:04 GMT
#186
On April 13 2011 13:59 pzea469 wrote:
I think the biggest problem for me was that it seemed to want to cram too many things in. Definitely need a break in between sets, even if its just 5 minutes or so. The match just ended and BAM next match. Set ends and BAM next set, forget the last game, new game.

Also I think they need to have all the players be there live like GSL. No point in inviting koreans if its just gonna lag and we are left with questionable results. If non-US players can't make it over here to play then it's too bad. GSL works the same way. I think that a lot of good things come from having the players there, and having them talk about their opponents and things like that. UFC style, hyping it up. And of course, hearing a crowd roaring does wonders. Maybe this isn't what this tournament was going for though so idk, but imo offline matches is the way to go.


GSL Payout from start to end of a season - About a Month.

NASL Season Duration - April - July. . . Lolwut you want people to stay out here that long for a single tournament? Your being rediculous. The TSL has long waits to hence why its via online.

Today seemed like a very low budget form of the TSL but I do however have hgh hopes for what the NASL can become.
I'm Your Phtes o.0 **SKT1 For Life!**
Spectorials
Profile Joined October 2010
558 Posts
April 13 2011 05:10 GMT
#187
Far out..

Isn't it a bit early to be casting this sort of judgement?It was the first day and I thought the production values were excellent for a first try.

I'd even go as far as to say this >>>> previous MLG experience (which has had far more time to get GOOD).

Let it run a bit more before casting judgement, I am sure they are a professional enough group to do self review to improve what they are doing. At this stage people should just be giving encouragement and trying to promote the thing.

thee telescopes
Profile Joined August 2010
321 Posts
April 13 2011 05:13 GMT
#188
A few minutes between the sets would make the viewing experience so much better, having five bo3's without any breaks at all felt like too much.

Also background music in and out of game would really make things more lively.
Sajimo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States95 Posts
April 13 2011 05:16 GMT
#189
On April 13 2011 14:10 Spectorials wrote:
Far out..

Isn't it a bit early to be casting this sort of judgement?It was the first day and I thought the production values were excellent for a first try.

I'd even go as far as to say this >>>> previous MLG experience (which has had far more time to get GOOD).

Let it run a bit more before casting judgement, I am sure they are a professional enough group to do self review to improve what they are doing. At this stage people should just be giving encouragement and trying to promote the thing.





It is early but I sat down for the Jinro v Idra match and felt the same way. So did my non-sc2 friend.
"this is just a ride" - Bill Hicks
vict1019
Profile Joined December 2010
United States401 Posts
April 13 2011 05:16 GMT
#190
In game music, better observing.
Evil Geniuses - The Yankees of ESports(without the results)
apm66
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada943 Posts
April 13 2011 05:17 GMT
#191
A specific amount of time for breaks in between games would be awesome, because I just don't know when I should get up to take a leak or grab food
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sagefreke
Profile Joined August 2010
United States241 Posts
April 13 2011 05:18 GMT
#192
You can fix people spoiling the games in chat by adding a delay in chat.
yo yo yo
coolcor
Profile Joined February 2011
520 Posts
April 13 2011 05:20 GMT
#193
Use all the new observer features from 1.3!
MechaCthulhu
Profile Joined November 2010
United States136 Posts
April 13 2011 05:21 GMT
#194
I thought it was mostly great, but the one thing that I didn't like was the mass of bios before the games started, and then the complete lack of breaks between matches. If they would do the match bio between matches I think it would flow much more nicely.
That which can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.
Bean54
Profile Joined September 2010
United States85 Posts
April 13 2011 05:23 GMT
#195
1. Music, awesome intro-type music like TSL
2. Get rid of Gretorp
Not to be mean or overly critical but Gretorp is just not a good caster. Some personality types are just not meant for it. Hes unanimated, monotone, which just makes it worse when he tries to fake excitement and goes way over the top. He's not very funny, and there is no chemistry with him and Incontrol, though I doubt he'd have much chemistry with anyone. Everytime Incontrol tries telling a joke or begins the engagement of some banter, gretorp is completely unresponsive or just moves forward like he doesn't know what to say. I feel Incontrol + anyone else, Day[9], Artosis, Kelly, anyone would just be sooo much better.
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 05:39:10
April 13 2011 05:36 GMT
#196
One point where the NASL could improve is their homepage. I am looking at it right now and the results are only halfway put in (and do you really get -2 points for losing?). Changing a few numbers should not take a day and the results should be updated right after the daily show is done.

P.S.: Screw the "win ratio on maps" because there are too many race-map combos to make it a valid statistic ... and players are playing differently so a statistic over "all Terrans win vs X on this map ..." is stupid.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
April 13 2011 05:40 GMT
#197
On April 13 2011 14:23 Bean54 wrote:
1. Music, awesome intro-type music like TSL
2. Get rid of Gretorp
Not to be mean or overly critical but Gretorp is just not a good caster. Some personality types are just not meant for it. Hes unanimated, monotone, which just makes it worse when he tries to fake excitement and goes way over the top. He's not very funny, and there is no chemistry with him and Incontrol, though I doubt he'd have much chemistry with anyone. Everytime Incontrol tries telling a joke or begins the engagement of some banter, gretorp is completely unresponsive or just moves forward like he doesn't know what to say. I feel Incontrol + anyone else, Day[9], Artosis, Kelly, anyone would just be sooo much better.


Agreed. Also the music could be cool music GSL / OSL / MSL style, not only in introductions but whenever a player wins and stuff. Though I guess they are missing the cool booths :[
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
v3chr0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States856 Posts
April 13 2011 05:44 GMT
#198
Can't complain, for the first set of matches everything was great aside from small spikes of lag, but that could have been my side or both, so I'm not worried.

A caster/commentator switch up would be nice also maybe Husky and a few other good casters, but I'd prefer Gretorp and Incontrol over a lot, so Im happy for that.
"He catches him with his pants down, backs him off into a corner, and then it's over." - Khaldor
Barca
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States418 Posts
April 13 2011 05:50 GMT
#199
Personally, I loved it not because it was amazing, but because it was homegrown. Sure it's no GSL, but right now that doesn't matter to me - it's the first legitimate attempt to create a league in NA.

I prefer it over the GSL for the same reasons why I prefer watching my college's football games over the NFL.

It's got great potential . And to all those who won't give up 20 bucks because you say it's low quality, keep in mind that the more people who pay and subscribe, the more money goes to supporting the emergence of Starcraft 2 in North America and the quality of the NASL itself.

Food for thought.
- I hate threads that end with "Thoughts?" -
DarkJackalX
Profile Joined April 2010
United States165 Posts
April 13 2011 05:54 GMT
#200
I want to again reiterate that I am not trying to complain for the sake of whining, but for the sake of making NASL the best league possible...

With that said, I think that there needs to be some change in the commentators. Maybe not replacing one or both, but too many times things were missed (I can give a list of examples if necessary) and more importantly the emotions that were broadcast were often times forced (in my opinion), which left an awkward, almost ingenuine feel. Did anyone else experience this?

To be more specific, there seemed to be a huge desire to hype things that instead could have been expressed with more poise and wit. Sometimes Tastosis (for example, not because they are the perfect casting archon, they are very good though) recognize something as not mind-meltingly exciting and instead make a joke or two, or even take the time to point out flaws.

Anyway, I look forward to more NASL, I am sure they will get better as they cast more.
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