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TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
June 02 2011 19:07 GMT
#2321
Well , I usually tolerate any form of casting and bias or whatever but gretorp's attitude to someone who has achieved so much in gaming ( probably something he wouldnt match in a lifetime ) and giving him a hard time and mocking him about not doing well in one tournament is really insulting to me at least. Actually ill just turn off the cast right now because of it.

I know artosis does it as well , but he actually manages to do it in a funny non insulting way usually as a joke or explaining why X's play was bad. What gretorp does is only insulting grubby for losing which is really obnoxious.
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wankey
Profile Joined May 2010
98 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 20:26:02
June 02 2011 20:21 GMT
#2322
I find Gretorp commentary infuriating.

a) finish your damn sentences Gretorp, not everyone is is going to guess what you are going to say
b) stop commentating the obvious
c) stop repeating what inControl says in a off key song like voice, that isn't cool and sounds just pathetic
d) Does gretorp actually play this game competitively? As a low diamond/ platinum player even, I can think of more insightful commentary on the games. He seems to be a silver / gold player, and often times asking inControl for "proper" analysis
e) Annunciate your words gretorp, a lot of times you slur a ton of your words and it's like listening to Kelly except you don't actually have an accent.
f) it's hard to take NASL seriously with this kind if poor commentary. Sure ultra nerds and dedicated fans will love it because of the gameplay and players, but nobody will be interested if the commentary is boring, unintelligent and uninteresting
g) Please STOP "guessing" what's going to happen and getting called wrong right after. Stop trying to prove to people you know the game, even inControl corrects you and that just makes Gretorp sound so dumb. He definitely feels like a gold player or something.
h) Seriously Gretorp needs to work on his speech, when he starts monologuing, I have no idea what he's talking about.
i) Stop saying holy crap, omg, that's amazing on dumb things like he went a extra hatchery, he put down a spire. Those aren't holy crap moments, he just changed strategy so what?
j) STOP REPEATING EVERYTHING INCONTROL SAYS...
h) Gretorp is often incredibly confusing, in one game he kept talking about mothership and the protoss never made a mothership. He's like OH IT'S COMING DOWN FROM HEAVEN... can anyone tell me WTF he's talking about? Can you imagine an average user watching this?

It's just silly, there's no problem with NASL in terms of quality, there is a big problem in the production quality in terms of talent. Get someone insightful, and get someone that's interesting. Gretorp just sounds dumb all the time, and lacks anything. Sorry to be this blunt but seriously, NASL has half a million dollars of prize money on the line and has some a crappy commentator.

What gretorp is is that he is a viewer, not a commentator. He belongs in the viewer's seat with everyone else, watching the NASL with 2 more insightful, more energetic and interesting commentators.

I nominate Day9, Husky, HD, anyone.
Geordie
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom653 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 19:40:19
June 02 2011 20:43 GMT
#2323
On June 03 2011 05:21 wankey wrote:
I find Gretorp commentary infuriating.

a) finish your damn sentences Gretorp, not everyone is is going to guess what you are going to say
b) stop commentating the obvious
c) stop repeating what inControl says in a off key song like voice, that isn't cool and sounds just pathetic
d) Does gretorp actually play this game competitively? As a low diamond/ platinum player even, I can think of more insightful commentary on the games. He seems to be a silver / gold player, and often times asking inControl for "proper" analysis
e) Annunciate your words gretorp, a lot of times you slur a ton of your words and it's like listening to Kelly except you don't actually have an accent.
f) it's hard to take NASL seriously with this kind if poor commentary. Sure ultra nerds and dedicated fans will love it because of the gameplay and players, but nobody will be interested if the commentary is boring, unintelligent and uninteresting
g) Please STOP "guessing" what's going to happen and getting called wrong right after. Stop trying to prove to people you know the game, even inControl corrects you and that just makes Gretorp sound so dumb. He definitely feels like a gold player or something.
h) Seriously Gretorp needs to work on his speech, when he starts monologuing, I have no idea what he's talking about.
i) Stop saying holy crap, omg, that's amazing on dumb things like he went a extra hatchery, he put down a spire. Those aren't holy crap moments, he just changed strategy so what?
j) STOP REPEATING EVERYTHING INCONTROL SAYS...
h) Gretorp is often incredibly confusing, in one game he kept talking about mothership and the protoss never made a mothership. He's like OH IT'S COMING DOWN FROM HEAVEN... can anyone tell me WTF he's talking about? Can you imagine an average user watching this?

It's just silly, there's no problem with NASL in terms of quality, there is a big problem in the production quality in terms of talent. Get someone insightful, and get someone that's interesting. Gretorp just sounds dumb all the time, and lacks anything. Sorry to be this blunt but seriously, NASL has half a million dollars of prize money on the line and has some a crappy commentator.

What gretorp is is that he is a viewer, not a commentator. He belongs in the viewer's seat with everyone else, watching the NASL with 2 more insightful, more energetic and interesting commentators.

I nominate Day9, Husky, HD, anyone.


Im sorry but you would rather have husky or HD commentate over Gretorp? Gretorp is/was a very good player and he has so much knowledge of the game. Sure, husky and HD have done alot for the community but did you see HD commentate the HDWT? He is very out of touch with the game and he made alot of mistakes while casting. I can only see gretorp getting better as, with gretorp perhaps having trouble communicating what he is trying to say, I think improving the way you speak is much much more easier than sitting down and husky and HD trying to get the same knowledge that gretorp has.

EDIT: Also I noticed you said that Gretorp commentated like a silver/gold player and that you wondered if he was a pro. Enough said.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14220 Posts
June 04 2011 17:06 GMT
#2324
I see a lot of the smallest leagues with bronze to plat that doesn't really have any prize at the end. Why not give out seeds and/or and HQ pass to introduce more people to NASL and give these newbies a reward to look forward to and work for. I think it would help the brand image and loyalty of nasl and help the sence a lot.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
JLew
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada353 Posts
June 07 2011 15:47 GMT
#2325
On June 03 2011 05:21 wankey wrote:
I find Gretorp commentary infuriating.

a) finish your damn sentences Gretorp, not everyone is is going to guess what you are going to say
b) stop commentating the obvious
c) stop repeating what inControl says in a off key song like voice, that isn't cool and sounds just pathetic
d) Does gretorp actually play this game competitively? As a low diamond/ platinum player even, I can think of more insightful commentary on the games. He seems to be a silver / gold player, and often times asking inControl for "proper" analysis
e) Annunciate your words gretorp, a lot of times you slur a ton of your words and it's like listening to Kelly except you don't actually have an accent.
f) it's hard to take NASL seriously with this kind if poor commentary. Sure ultra nerds and dedicated fans will love it because of the gameplay and players, but nobody will be interested if the commentary is boring, unintelligent and uninteresting
g) Please STOP "guessing" what's going to happen and getting called wrong right after. Stop trying to prove to people you know the game, even inControl corrects you and that just makes Gretorp sound so dumb. He definitely feels like a gold player or something.
h) Seriously Gretorp needs to work on his speech, when he starts monologuing, I have no idea what he's talking about.
i) Stop saying holy crap, omg, that's amazing on dumb things like he went a extra hatchery, he put down a spire. Those aren't holy crap moments, he just changed strategy so what?
j) STOP REPEATING EVERYTHING INCONTROL SAYS...
h) Gretorp is often incredibly confusing, in one game he kept talking about mothership and the protoss never made a mothership. He's like OH IT'S COMING DOWN FROM HEAVEN... can anyone tell me WTF he's talking about? Can you imagine an average user watching this?

It's just silly, there's no problem with NASL in terms of quality, there is a big problem in the production quality in terms of talent. Get someone insightful, and get someone that's interesting. Gretorp just sounds dumb all the time, and lacks anything. Sorry to be this blunt but seriously, NASL has half a million dollars of prize money on the line and has some a crappy commentator.

What gretorp is is that he is a viewer, not a commentator. He belongs in the viewer's seat with everyone else, watching the NASL with 2 more insightful, more energetic and interesting commentators.

I nominate Day9, Husky, HD, anyone.


Not only is Gretorp in Grandmasters league but he just played in the most recent MLG which he qualified for by being top 16 in the last MLG.
@Triumph_eSports . www.Triumph-eSports.com
Swig
Profile Joined July 2010
United States54 Posts
June 09 2011 01:06 GMT
#2326
I think what the NASL is lacking in is excitement. Sure, the games are extremely good, and the casters are very knowledgeable, but I find myself growing bored watching the stream in situations where I should be "holy **** that was insane!!!!"


I think this is a problem if we want esports to grow. If I were to try and get some of my friends into starcraft, I'm sorry to say this, but I wouldn't recommend the NASL to them. The casts just don't grab the audience.

I'm not saying that they should be swapped out for another caster, but I do think they need to work on their casts.
Hammurabio
Profile Joined August 2010
152 Posts
June 09 2011 03:09 GMT
#2327
Enforce better player colors. Purple vs Blue or Purple vs Red in a ZvZ doesn't have enough contrast. The units tend to blend together somewhat .And don't allow a player to change colors between games. That just makes it confusing.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 09 2011 03:09 GMT
#2328
Man, NASL needs to stop blaming the players for choosing not to play after they have no more chances in the tournament. They keep bringing this up over and over. It's ridiculous and unprofessional.

It's YOUR fault for designing a crappy tournament structure. Not the player's fault for not willing to waste their time with your crap. Stop blaming others for your mistakes and actually fix your tournament instead of whining.
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
cybiz
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland194 Posts
June 13 2011 07:15 GMT
#2329
I know Geoff reads this thread from time to time, so I'm going to repost a reddit thread. I wholeheartedly agree with everything said in it and I think it would help NASL if you guys considered changing some stuff.
Hammurabio
Profile Joined August 2010
152 Posts
June 16 2011 22:40 GMT
#2330
Change the links to the brackets to the spoiler link. Then the results are hidden from the start, but can be revealed with a single click. Showing the results then including a spoiler-free link is pointless.

Example:
http://binarybeast.com/xSC21106122/full
http://binarybeast.com/xSC21106122/full/spoiler
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