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Gooey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States944 Posts
April 06 2011 23:32 GMT
#61
My favorite part was the part where he never selected a queen one time the entire game to do those perfectly timed 25 energy injects. First time i've see someone using an auto queen injecting bot. Too bad the guy was horrible and couldn't put it to use =P
www.twitch.tv/Thatgooey
iPBioOrMech
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey297 Posts
April 06 2011 23:35 GMT
#62
Rofl, thats so crazy! Yeah hes def hacking, he kept looking at his overlord at rocks thinking its units and he looked at his army for 5 minutes with his army pretending to "A" move thats sad -.-
i created scan BM, MvP created mule drop.
lotny
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland154 Posts
April 06 2011 23:35 GMT
#63
On April 07 2011 08:16 Soluhwin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 08:11 lotny wrote:

edit: Oh and during that battle he doesn't click on his queens (and he doesn't have them hotkeyed either)


They're hotkey'd at 9 and 0.


My mistake. He had them hotkeyed individually.

Anyway even sc2gears doesn't show that he's been using those hotkeys. He only pressed 4 for his hatchery and ctrl+1 / 1 once in a while.
Poststrata
Profile Joined December 2010
United States110 Posts
April 06 2011 23:35 GMT
#64
Definitely a hack, micro part was interesting to watch for the first time though. Hopefully this doesn't get out of hand.
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Reason.SC2
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1047 Posts
April 06 2011 23:36 GMT
#65
wow that must be a funky little program that can control all that junk for him. People who hack on ladder deserve to get banned + their accounts closed though. If you want to test your bot do it in a custom at least.

I hope blizz is on top of things and finds + crushes all who cheat on ladder asaply. It would really ruin the game if half your matches were played against people with elaborate macro scripts or bots.
CarachAngren
Profile Joined January 2011
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 23:37:50
April 06 2011 23:36 GMT
#66
Yeah. The queen part was the first tip off. They inject without being selected. The roach micro would even be more believable if the guy was being very active with a high apm already but it looks so much more like a hack when out of nowhere it kicks up to 400-700apm.

That was a pretty crazy and obvious micro hack. The sad part is that if there are micro helping hacks that are less obvious, players could get away with it so easily.
iPBioOrMech
Profile Joined May 2010
Turkey297 Posts
April 06 2011 23:36 GMT
#67
On April 07 2011 07:54 Marradron wrote:
There is a project making a programmed AI using directly Direct x 3d pipeline to detect units/ everything on the screen. This seems to be a very elaborate version of some kind of programmed AI. Didn't watch the replay but what your discribing seems like framelike command precision. It could be considered a 'hack'. But this seems to not be a ladder game. The creator might just want to try it on some humans while not messing with the ladder. I'm certainly more impressed than upset by this 'hack'

edit: w00t post 1000


grats lol :D
i created scan BM, MvP created mule drop.
Jimoteh
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom2 Posts
April 06 2011 23:37 GMT
#68
On April 07 2011 08:24 Saechiis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 08:20 Jimoteh wrote:
Is it possible that this was a custom game played on slow speed? I've never tried, but I assume you can do that and the replay will play on 'faster'.


You think OP would mistake playing a custom game on slowest possible settings with a ladder match on fastest? Good first post


I'm just saying, if you play on slow you can pull this kind of micro off and look inhumanly fast. Would the OP do that, upload it and pretend it's a ladder game? Probably not, but it's possible.
Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 23:38:51
April 06 2011 23:37 GMT
#69
quick google gave me a reddit thread on this issue:

Edit: on second thought, removed the link here because it might be against TL policy or something @_@

also a battle.net thread on it. Hopefully the guy gets banned soon. But yes, such a thing does exist, and not just for zerg. I'd suggest posting on the battle.net forums too, i'm sure blizzard would be very interested in detecting and banning this type of software.
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
April 06 2011 23:38 GMT
#70
Here's what the zerg overlay looks like:
[image loading]

You decide what it makes and whether to inject and make overlords as well
Soluhwin
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1287 Posts
April 06 2011 23:38 GMT
#71
On April 07 2011 08:32 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 08:28 FaiL_SaFe wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't get why anyone would want all these hacks? (I mean obviously in my opinion it takes a special kind of asshole to cheat or hack in general).

It seems like all of this stuff takes all human functions out of the game. Why bother to play when all you are going to do is watch as the computer takes care of everything for you.


Winning games and obtaining high ranks. A lot of people would do anything for those.


But it is impossible to compete with that higher rank if you don't have skill to back it up....I agree with FaiL_SaFe. I really don't see why people do this.
I put the sexy in dyslexia.
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
April 06 2011 23:39 GMT
#72
Where does one get hacks like these!!?? I'm not wondering for myself, I don't even play SC2, but is there like websites called, "SC2 hacks"?
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 23:41:52
April 06 2011 23:40 GMT
#73
On April 07 2011 08:24 floor exercise wrote:
He's using a new hack that's not too hard to find. In addition to standard map hack it can auto drone, overlord, inject, it can macro up unit combinations like muta/ling for you. Does the sames stuff for Protoss and Terran too. Also a hud that shows your opponent units/supply/etc

And that's the free version, the pay one probably has the micro hacks in it



Jesus Christ, so sad what some people are willing to do to ruin the competitive spirit of this game. Why even buy and play it at all if you just have a bot do everything for you? This guy is obviously map hacking in addition to using whatever program this is. Scary.


But on a more positive note, that would make a pretty amazing practice AI.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
KotaOnCue
Profile Joined September 2010
United States180 Posts
April 06 2011 23:41 GMT
#74
On April 07 2011 08:28 FaiL_SaFe wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't get why anyone would want all these hacks? (I mean obviously in my opinion it takes a special kind of asshole to cheat or hack in general).

It seems like all of this stuff takes all human functions out of the game. Why bother to play when all you are going to do is watch as the computer takes care of everything for you.


Haha, why would anybody use any hacks? Obviously its to get the wins they so desperately crave but don't have the skill to do.

What makes this worse is that it can happen in tournaments too and with money on the line, it becomes even more deplorable. I haven't watched the replay yet but I will soon. Funny thing is that even with this, I'm pretty sure a great player can beat this haha.
"They say ignorance is bliss. Is it true?"
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-06 23:44:40
April 06 2011 23:43 GMT
#75
On April 07 2011 08:38 Soluhwin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 08:32 Sein wrote:
On April 07 2011 08:28 FaiL_SaFe wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't get why anyone would want all these hacks? (I mean obviously in my opinion it takes a special kind of asshole to cheat or hack in general).

It seems like all of this stuff takes all human functions out of the game. Why bother to play when all you are going to do is watch as the computer takes care of everything for you.


Winning games and obtaining high ranks. A lot of people would do anything for those.


But it is impossible to compete with that higher rank if you don't have skill to back it up....I agree with FaiL_SaFe. I really don't see why people do this.


Really? I have to argue that things like auto-larvae inject and perfect battle micro will definitely allow you to compete at the top of the ladder if you just sort of know what you're doing. iGware/Sorcery got to global #5 with just his maphack/production tab hack when his skill is absolutely nowhere near that level. Imagine adding AI-controlled perfect macro and micro to that.
Sensator
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia377 Posts
April 06 2011 23:43 GMT
#76
On April 07 2011 08:38 Soluhwin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2011 08:32 Sein wrote:
On April 07 2011 08:28 FaiL_SaFe wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't get why anyone would want all these hacks? (I mean obviously in my opinion it takes a special kind of asshole to cheat or hack in general).

It seems like all of this stuff takes all human functions out of the game. Why bother to play when all you are going to do is watch as the computer takes care of everything for you.


Winning games and obtaining high ranks. A lot of people would do anything for those.


But it is impossible to compete with that higher rank if you don't have skill to back it up....I agree with FaiL_SaFe. I really don't see why people do this.


... That is why they hack, they are not skilled so they substitute skill with hacks...
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6219 Posts
April 06 2011 23:46 GMT
#77
Holy crap.

Pretty damn obvious though, the queen was up to ~18 energy from after the banelings and got brought down to 0 again through pure injects and the roach burrow micro with horrible 1a micro into spines. I sincerely hope it gets patched and banned though, I'm going to have to look back at my replays and see since there's a few games which I think might be suspect as well =/.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
April 06 2011 23:46 GMT
#78
On April 07 2011 08:38 floor exercise wrote:
Here's what the zerg overlay looks like:
[image loading]

You decide what it makes and whether to inject and make overlords as well



Well. I am not laddering until there's a patch or a post from Blizzard addressing this. Totally shocked something like this could be created, but I'm sure they'll respond quickly.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
April 06 2011 23:47 GMT
#79
I think that was the sickest Roach micro I've ever seen.... someone sign this man up for the GSL!

On a side note, Id love to watch a game between 2 bots with 1000+ APM and see how abusive their micro can be!
GraphicsThis is for all you new people: I only have one rule. Everyone fights. No one quits. You don't do your job, I'll shoot you myself. You get me?
ZUR1CH
Profile Joined February 2011
United States108 Posts
April 06 2011 23:48 GMT
#80
Is it possible Blizzard is trying out new AI against human opponents to see how it performs against unpredictable situations?
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