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Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
April 13 2011 11:04 GMT
#341
the gamespeed was set to slowest. However when you watch the replay, its default set to normal so you really dont have any idea how they play it out in what gamespeed in reality.

Thus its possible to acheive 200-700 apm streaming since u are theorically doing much faster.

I know this for a fact since i did the same thing for the marine split challenge.
Zen.
Profile Joined April 2011
United States30 Posts
April 13 2011 13:41 GMT
#342
After reading through this, it seems like there are a lot of people calling for blizz to ban, or worried that these guys will never get caught, blizz's method of banning is that they do it in huge waves, this means it takes the hackers longer to catch up with blizz's new detection methods. If they just banned one by one it they would be giving away what they knew about with each ban
"Like this cup," Nan-in said, "you are full of your own opinions and speculations. How can I show you Zen unless you first empty your cup?"
tronix
Profile Joined November 2010
United States95 Posts
April 14 2011 03:14 GMT
#343
bahaha, and people say that SC2 can't be micro intensive. if SC2 is still around in 10 years; I believe tip-top pros will be able to micro similar to the replay and the automaton vids.

making macro easier? well that apm has to go somewhere. which amounts to unit control.

though i totally agree that this is a hack and anyone associated with it should be banned.
Gov
Profile Joined November 2010
United States121 Posts
April 14 2011 04:40 GMT
#344
On April 14 2011 12:14 tronix wrote:
bahaha, and people say that SC2 can't be micro intensive. if SC2 is still around in 10 years; I believe tip-top pros will be able to micro similar to the replay and the automaton vids.

making macro easier? well that apm has to go somewhere. which amounts to unit control.

though i totally agree that this is a hack and anyone associated with it should be banned.

maybe in this specific replay people might be able to micro close to it if the pros get A LOT better but the maker of the automaton videos has said that his bot was playing at 15000 apm to do the things it was doing... i dont think any existing mouse/keyboard can support 15000 clicks per minute and lets not even bring in the topic of effective apm lol
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ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
April 14 2011 10:49 GMT
#345
On April 14 2011 12:14 tronix wrote:
bahaha, and people say that SC2 can't be micro intensive. if SC2 is still around in 10 years; I believe tip-top pros will be able to micro similar to the replay and the automaton vids.

making macro easier? well that apm has to go somewhere. which amounts to unit control.
.

No. Players will never be able to replicate such micro, because it's just not humanly possible. SC1 has been out for more than 10 years and even the best players are nowhere close to micro bot(s) with 10k apm. You can control few units similarly to bot's perfect micro, but you simply can't control 20 units like that.
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
greendestiny
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina114 Posts
April 15 2011 21:15 GMT
#346
To me, there is an unintended positive side to all this: development of AI.

Read this article:
http://gizmodo.com/#!5679355/can-artificial-intelligence-beat-humans-at-starcraft

They held an all-AI tournament. Check out the name of the winning bot :-)
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uGpMaCbOi
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada9 Posts
April 17 2011 08:45 GMT
#347
its absolutely funny how ppl are still saying slowest gamspeed oh he is trolling etc , im not gunna post a lie guys just keep in mind that there are hacks for sc2 and ppl use them on ladder to win why would i post a random video and make a paragraph on this topic im not asking anyone to beelvie what im saying im simply just making you guys aware of whast out there and just to show you guys what to look for when hackers attack this guy is clearly modding his sc2 with hacks so just be aware of what there is thats all im saying in this post but this guy was cheating and it was a ladder game letting you all know to clear that up thnks for feedback and hopefully we can get hackers banned thnx for reading everyone!
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