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Chinesewonder
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada354 Posts
April 08 2011 23:52 GMT
#301
Holy shit... just looked at the micro... theres no way that is humanly possible. he pretty much had a roach disadvantage, + against 4 infestors and still won... strong wtf. doesnt even switch screens to inject or anything. clearly hacking. I doubt a pro with even the best micro could come anywhere close
DuckS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States845 Posts
April 09 2011 01:00 GMT
#302
oh wow
i just played vs this guy, rofl. i can confirm it as well, i just posted it in the TL hacker data base
"You foiled us this time Americans, but your liberty will not protect your Marilyn Monroe forever - our Queen must FEED!" - Deleuze
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
April 09 2011 03:16 GMT
#303
On April 09 2011 10:00 DuckS wrote:
oh wow
i just played vs this guy, rofl. i can confirm it as well, i just posted it in the TL hacker data base


can you show us the replay?
xlava
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States676 Posts
April 09 2011 03:50 GMT
#304
Wow 800 APM spike? Yeah okay lol =D

Something definitely weird going on with that guy.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 09 2011 04:04 GMT
#305
On April 09 2011 07:30 Cajun2k1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 05:27 artanis2 wrote:
On April 09 2011 04:00 Alejandrisha wrote:
...
It's kind of scary that there were two instances reported so quickly. I hope it's not spreading I want to ladder today!


Two? Where is the other?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=210612

But it's the same hacker/cheater.

Blizzard needs to act real quick. This is a master leaguer fell victim to the hack. This guy deserve no second chance. If Blizzard take the action, make it permanent ban. But there is some crazy nuts out there, they will just buy the game once more and hack AGAIN.

If I know this hacker in person, I would punch the hell out of him -_-.
Terran
Incanus
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada695 Posts
April 09 2011 04:10 GMT
#306
Blizzard is probably (hopefully) doing silent detection now to maximize the amount of potential hackers that they ban in one go.
Flash: "Why am I so good?" *sob sob*
FuryX
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia495 Posts
April 09 2011 14:26 GMT
#307
holy crap!

god like roach macro!
Primal666
Profile Joined November 2010
Slovenia418 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 14:34:04
April 09 2011 14:32 GMT
#308
Orrrrrrrr, this guy has widescreen and quick fingers<_<
Edit: and if you hold ''R'' and click roaches, you could get a serious spike in apm, because of holding down a button+clicking.
OhMyGawd
Profile Joined February 2011
United States264 Posts
April 09 2011 14:52 GMT
#309
The evo chamber block is justified. I can give him the benefit of the doubt and say he put one down for ups then put the other two down as he saw the blings. But he did not cancel at the end....

The micro is definitely botted. Never selects queens and they auto inject.

The 800 amp roach micro was happing wile he was macroing at his base.

What league was this again?
zomg
OhMyGawd
Profile Joined February 2011
United States264 Posts
April 09 2011 14:53 GMT
#310
On April 07 2011 07:38 majestouch wrote:
first off this is the wrong forum for hacking posts (there is a thread for it search "tl hacker database" i'm too lazy to link you to it)
2nd, why were you playing 1v1 on gutterhulk-- a 2v2 map?
3rd, did you register an account to just make this post?

lastly, since you got 3 strikes from me I'm simply not going to look at the replay, however, that is odd he went from 40apm to 700, however, quite hillarious nonetheless.

User was banned for this post.


Watch the replay. Glad to see you got banned.
zomg
Newtonz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States141 Posts
April 09 2011 14:55 GMT
#311
This is pretty interesting. I believe this is the first actual sign of a legitimate hacker at work on SC2.(could be completely wrong here). I'm not sure what kind of programming would be required to execute these actions though, it must be pretty in depth, and I'd like to see the code of it to see what how they did it.

I would assume it's basically a game inside of a game, since everything is so precise. This sucks to see this in SC2, but it's fairly interesting.
venge1155
Profile Joined January 2011
United States174 Posts
April 09 2011 15:16 GMT
#312
On April 09 2011 23:55 Newtonz wrote:
This is pretty interesting. I believe this is the first actual sign of a legitimate hacker at work on SC2.(could be completely wrong here). I'm not sure what kind of programming would be required to execute these actions though, it must be pretty in depth, and I'd like to see the code of it to see what how they did it.

I would assume it's basically a game inside of a game, since everything is so precise. This sucks to see this in SC2, but it's fairly interesting.


Eh, nothing really interesting about it really. Looking at the replay he is using at least 3 hacks. An auto inject for queen, a map overlay/hack (with replay screen lock), and the roach micro bot. The Roach one is used by simply targeting all roaches you want to micro, and presetting parameters, such as "burrow at 15 HP, move away from battle, un-burrow at 50 HP" ect

This is all assumption however. Although there is absolutely no doubt about the fact that the hacks/bots are going on. If I where the type I would try and call him out on it if I played him in ladder/ say a post from him on the official forums. We simply have to hope that all hackers are reported by every player they play. The more we report the easier it is for Blizzard to mass them up for a banning wave.
Onieh
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands104 Posts
April 09 2011 15:30 GMT
#313
Now what i'm worried about is are these kind of hacks easily detectable? The hacker in OP's replay is making it a bit too obvious but what would happen if the hacks were a bit more 'subtle' and harder to notice during gameplay?
Newtonz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States141 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 15:41:29
April 09 2011 15:40 GMT
#314
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 10 2011 00:16 venge1155 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2011 23:55 Newtonz wrote:
This is pretty interesting. I believe this is the first actual sign of a legitimate hacker at work on SC2.(could be completely wrong here). I'm not sure what kind of programming would be required to execute these actions though, it must be pretty in depth, and I'd like to see the code of it to see what how they did it.

I would assume it's basically a game inside of a game, since everything is so precise. This sucks to see this in SC2, but it's fairly interesting.


Eh, nothing really interesting about it really. Looking at the replay he is using at least 3 hacks. An auto inject for queen, a map overlay/hack (with replay screen lock), and the roach micro bot. The Roach one is used by simply targeting all roaches you want to micro, and presetting parameters, such as "burrow at 15 HP, move away from battle, un-burrow at 50 HP" ect

This is all assumption however. Although there is absolutely no doubt about the fact that the hacks/bots are going on. If I where the type I would try and call him out on it if I played him in ladder/ say a post from him on the official forums. We simply have to hope that all hackers are reported by every player they play. The more we report the easier it is for Blizzard to mass them up for a banning wave.


I was more thinking about how the program would recongnize the fact the roaches needed to be borrowed. For instance did the program keep count of the energy of the Queen or did it simply note it was at 25 energy and then injected. And did the roaches get burrowed and moved based of the color of their health or the actual number of life left. I find it interesting on a programming view of it, just because there's a few ways to actually go about doing it.
pinke
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States56 Posts
April 09 2011 16:15 GMT
#315
On April 07 2011 09:39 padfoota wrote:
Also, I dont see why people think its so amazing to make a hack like this. Its pretty much the same as writing an AI, when you try to do macro.

Roach micro -> When unit Hp < X, R+Move Command X distance towards Base
This of course is provided that you have them all selected or something.


agreed. anyone who thinks this is a mind blowing program has no programming experience.

I think the evo chambers and spine crawlers are a little fishy but not completely unreasonable. In a regular game if you saw that you'd shrug it off as overly cautious but since he's clearly hacking with the insane micro and macro, he's probably hacking across the board
but then I think that rain is wet, so who am I to judge?
simme123
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Sweden810 Posts
April 09 2011 17:23 GMT
#316
haha too good to be true that has got to be some sort of hack u don't go from 40 apm to 600 like that and have such flawless micro.
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
April 09 2011 22:48 GMT
#317
Just played the dude lol... dunno if he hacked or not since he just used zergligns.. though his apm did spike a bit.
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/161546-1v1-protoss-zerg-gutterhulk
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
adrenaLinG
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada676 Posts
April 09 2011 23:33 GMT
#318
There could probably be a blink version of this hack in the future too, it wouldn't be much harder to program than the roach bot.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
April 09 2011 23:35 GMT
#319
Just watched the replay, looks pretty conclusive to me. BURN THE WITCH!
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
MrBadMan
Profile Joined February 2011
93 Posts
April 09 2011 23:51 GMT
#320
So at first I didnt believe such a hack even existed. Googled it, instantly found it. Seems to be less than a week old judging by their advertisements. They are using GSL footage to advertise their hack...lol. "Idra fails to kill 20 siege tanks with 100 zerglings? We can fix that!".

This is bad news, really bad news. But since the bot routines are easily detectable by Blizzard's anti-cheat software, it shouldnt take too long for the bans to start rolling out.
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