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On April 07 2011 08:06 Kantutan wrote:
I rarely download replays but couldn't resist this one... That was certainly quite interesting. The micro part is quite extraordinary although possible to do in reality if you just really are that good. I don't think anyone is that good to have such flawless control right now, though.
It is less about the fact that he did it, and more about the inhuman consistency. They all burrow at the same trigger, and all move back the same distance. If it was just a bunch of well timed burrows coming from someone like Jaedong, I would buy it.
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On April 07 2011 08:11 lotny wrote:
edit: Oh and during that battle he doesn't click on his queens (and he doesn't have them hotkeyed either)
They're hotkey'd at 9 and 0.
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This guy has two accounts (one each in NA and SEA) and is currently 22-0 and 32-0 in diamond. We might actually see him at #1 and #2 in the world above MKP in a couple of weeks, lol.
EDIT: nvm. I forgot we don't see losses anymore below master league. He still seems to have a very good ratio though (90%+) judging by his match history.
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Everything up to the roach micro could have been very good play/lucky guessing, but I don't doubt there was some software doing the roach micro for him, so it seems reasonable to guess he was also maphacking.
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On April 07 2011 07:58 Alokiya wrote:
What league was this in? If it was diamond/masters, it's not entirely impossible that you played someone who doesn't apm spam and is just really good at micro. Nothing in there was concrete that he was hacking, just insanely good micro really, but who knows, maybe there is some bot that auto burrows your low health roaches.
Jezus, did you even watch that replay?
No-one plays at 500+ APM and no-one can perfectly burrow every red health roach in a 50 roach vs 50 roach battle. You don't even see him clicking on units, he has his group of roaches selected the entire time but he still somehow manages to burrow them individually.
Seriously, I doubt anyone can watch that and say it's humanly possible to execute..
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wasnt there a hack that show your opponents production table, that would explain his evo chambers.
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Super obvious some type of program. He was selecting individual roaches at the same time.
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I would be interesting to see his account. I can't call him an hacker if he only do that with custom game
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Is it possible that this was a custom game played on slow speed? I've never tried, but I assume you can do that and the replay will play on 'faster'.
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Just to be clear, the guy isn't just moving fast. His units are operating perfectly and independently. He is not selecting his queens but they are injecting. He doesn't select his roaches but they burrow.
It's either a bug in the replay file (seems unlikely) or a hack.
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pisses me off so much...he is CLEARLY hacking. send this to blizzard, please.
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He's using a new hack that's not too hard to find. In addition to standard map hack it can auto drone, overlord, inject, it can macro up unit combinations like muta/ling for you. Does the sames stuff for Protoss and Terran too. Also a hud that shows your opponent units/supply/etc
And that's the free version, the pay one probably has the micro hacks in it
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On April 07 2011 08:20 Jimoteh wrote:
Is it possible that this was a custom game played on slow speed? I've never tried, but I assume you can do that and the replay will play on 'faster'.
You think OP would mistake playing a custom game on slowest possible settings with a ladder match on fastest? Good first post 
OP clearly states it was a ladder match.
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I have heard there is a production tab hack so he does not need to look into blank spaces. This a pretty obvious case of hacking just based on the evos without even mentioning the apm hack.
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This might be the coolest hack ever. It would've been awesome if he had named himself something like Jaedong or Flash. Everyone would be freaking out right now. Of course, jd and flash would never play SC2.
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On April 07 2011 08:19 Like a Boss wrote:
wasnt there a hack that show your opponents production table, that would explain his evo chambers.
that sounds like an answer. so, he had Roach burrow, Queen larva inject and Production tab hack. LOL. I guess, the next hack will be a blink stalker hack and a Marine split hack. I am looking forward to laddering. 
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Am I the only one who doesn't get why anyone would want all these hacks? (I mean obviously in my opinion it takes a special kind of asshole to cheat or hack in general).
It seems like all of this stuff takes all human functions out of the game. Why bother to play when all you are going to do is watch as the computer takes care of everything for you.
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On April 07 2011 07:58 Alokiya wrote:
What league was this in? If it was diamond/masters, it's not entirely impossible that you played someone who doesn't apm spam and is just really good at micro. Nothing in there was concrete that he was hacking, just insanely good micro really, but who knows, maybe there is some bot that auto burrows your low health roaches.
Dude, if you're looking for 100% conclusive proof that someone is hacking, nobody will ever be caught no matter what. This dude is obviously hacking. He doesn't even need a map hack, there's a production tab hack according to that Protech dude who was involved in the iGware/Sorcery incident.
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yes this has to be something fishy, he burrowed a lot of those roaches without even selecting them :/
Can you do that?
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On April 07 2011 08:28 FaiL_SaFe wrote:
Am I the only one who doesn't get why anyone would want all these hacks? (I mean obviously in my opinion it takes a special kind of asshole to cheat or hack in general).
It seems like all of this stuff takes all human functions out of the game. Why bother to play when all you are going to do is watch as the computer takes care of everything for you.
Winning games and obtaining high ranks. A lot of people would do anything for those.
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