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From the desk of MLG CEO Sundance DiGiovanni - Page 11

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TaG]SiG
Profile Joined October 2007
United Kingdom53 Posts
April 05 2011 08:21 GMT
#201
He's helping the scene too much to hold a grudge over a single poor performance.
i'm guessing that the old bw players have far more respect and optimism for companies aiding the scene.

A professional response is the way this should be handled and its appreciated. i hope you can look into the various issues and cant wait for next time
aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
April 05 2011 09:29 GMT
#202
Go go Sundande! Just keep on working and we will keep on suporting you <3
Crazy people dont sit around and wonder if they are insane
Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
April 05 2011 09:51 GMT
#203
Sundance need to acknowledge that SC2 will (is already) their biggest game now. No more short cuts
Skaya
Profile Joined August 2010
United States126 Posts
April 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#204
I've a lot of respect for the people behind MLG. not many corporations out there would take responsibility for their failures.


+1 MLG, i'm still a fan even with $10 gone.
eltese
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden369 Posts
April 05 2011 11:10 GMT
#205
Nice move Sundance! I have great faith in you. Sure I wasted 10$, but you actually own up to it. Many other corporations do not.

Thanks man. I will buy another HD pass and I have all the faith that you guys will make it work !
Kenod
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria32 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 11:28:04
April 05 2011 11:15 GMT
#206
I'm a little bit sad that his excuse didn't include their bad streaming schedule... ofc there were streaming issues, and maybe they were underprepared, but i find it much worse that they didnt cast games like idra vs tlo, and tlo vs incontrol... and i don't think they realised how bad that was ... i mean they had 3 casters who could switch around so that everyone of them had a diner pause , but they didn't , instead they made a 50 minute break and everyone at home could see the audience watching the nice games ...

Ofc the stream issues did dissapoint but i'm not sure if they are aware of the fact, that this wasn't the worst thing about MLG Dallas
Tyri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany453 Posts
April 05 2011 11:16 GMT
#207
On April 05 2011 19:50 Skaya wrote:
I've a lot of respect for the people behind MLG. not many corporations out there would take responsibility for their failures.


+1 MLG, i'm still a fan even with $10 gone.



this

and actually they are not gone, I believe that columbus will be so much better if they stand to their promises ( less breaks, more matches, better stream...etc)

googo
zidaneshead
Profile Joined November 2010
245 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 11:19:09
April 05 2011 11:18 GMT
#208
People shouldn't have been bitching so hard in the first place. It's not ideal but some of the hate this guy was getting was just unreal. At the end of the day you lost a measly $10 that you can easily redeem at a later date and missed some games that you can easily re-watch on their site, boo hoo.
Matkap
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain627 Posts
April 05 2011 11:22 GMT
#209
editing the vods takes woo much time...eh what?

dont want to keep throwing shit at them or something, but I can guarantee you that If you give me 1000 bucks Ill have it done in 2-3, 4 days max, and Im not a pro. editor by any means, but its just copy and paste (and cut)...
A man tells his stories so many times that he becomes the stories. They live on after him, and in that way he becomes immortal.
Silkath
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom102 Posts
April 05 2011 11:29 GMT
#210
On April 05 2011 20:22 Matkap wrote:
editing the vods takes woo much time...eh what?

dont want to keep throwing shit at them or something, but I can guarantee you that If you give me 1000 bucks Ill have it done in 2-3, 4 days max, and Im not a pro. editor by any means, but its just copy and paste (and cut)...


Most games weren't cast/recorded at all, so for 90% of games there are only replays. Wait a few days and the usual suspects will start casting games from MLG and vods will be up on youtube before you know it. Fingers crossed for the 2nd meeting between TLO and InControl to appear asap, from the tweets some of those games sounded epic.
We sit together, the mountain and I, until only the mountain remains
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 11:56:44
April 05 2011 11:54 GMT
#211
EDIT: Wrong thread, kind of.
resilve
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom678 Posts
April 05 2011 11:59 GMT
#212
What is the chance of a person so in love with sc2 that they visit TL.net not watching an MLG event?

It doesnt matter how awful their production is - we still sat there through it all, and were still watching on Sunday night.

Apologies are necessary, but it is not this community that need to be placated - we will be watching every event even if they repeatedly are like Dallas 2011.
Socke Fighting!!!!
MasterJack
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada215 Posts
April 05 2011 12:01 GMT
#213
On April 05 2011 20:59 resilve wrote:
Apologies are necessary, but it is not this community that need to be placated - we will be watching every event even if they repeatedly are like Dallas 2011.

I love SC2 but will not be wasting time like that again. Just going to wait for replays + commentary VODs unless the comments are really damn positive.
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 12:24:42
April 05 2011 12:05 GMT
#214
The fact that Sundance not only apologized on Twitter, Stream and an open letter BUT also posts on TL, makes me hopeful that this will work out for their next event.

Especially considering that they are getting a new tech department, or at least are looking at their current possibilities and will get more qualified persons.
Matkap
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain627 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 12:25:05
April 05 2011 12:24 GMT
#215
On April 05 2011 20:29 Silkath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 20:22 Matkap wrote:
editing the vods takes woo much time...eh what?

dont want to keep throwing shit at them or something, but I can guarantee you that If you give me 1000 bucks Ill have it done in 2-3, 4 days max, and Im not a pro. editor by any means, but its just copy and paste (and cut)...


Most games weren't cast/recorded at all, so for 90% of games there are only replays. Wait a few days and the usual suspects will start casting games from MLG and vods will be up on youtube before you know it. Fingers crossed for the 2nd meeting between TLO and InControl to appear asap, from the tweets some of those games sounded epic.



I was talking about this

On April 05 2011 13:04 MLG_Sundance wrote:

Last thing before go to bed for real - to edit the stream would take too much time. It's either the stream with delays or go dark. After all the issues we decided that something was better than nothing.

Will also be bundling up all the replays as soon as we are able to.


Sorry, but no, that is being lazy.

A man tells his stories so many times that he becomes the stories. They live on after him, and in that way he becomes immortal.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
April 05 2011 12:25 GMT
#216
On April 05 2011 10:56 Jiddra wrote:
@MLG_Sundance
Sundance DiGiovanni
@anepicname Site saw just under a million uniques during the event. Will be releasing final numbers once we get a full picture.

Translating from marketing speach to normal is easy...
Just delete one ZERO. So

@anepicname Site saw just under 100k uniques during the event. Will wont release final numbers cause it could be bad for us.
seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
April 05 2011 12:28 GMT
#217
On April 05 2011 12:55 MLG_Sundance wrote:
I wanted to quickly post to let all of you know that we will be working to not only give you a stable stream in Cbus but a better broadcast experience as well (fewer delays, more matches, more interviews and a proper closing ceremony).

I know that many of you have no faith in us but I just want you all to know that we are committed to this for the long haul.

Please keep the suggestions coming. Although we can't do everything it's helpful to hear constructive criticism.

-sd


(edit)

Yes game audio and casters for the crowd will also be looked into.

It's been a long and rough weekend - I'm not running at 100% capacity.


Thanks for the post. I'm sure Columbus will be sick. Looking forward to it and thanks for working hard for eSports.
This is well below quality expected of a post in any forum. -Empyrean
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 12:52:45
April 05 2011 12:33 GMT
#218
On April 05 2011 20:59 resilve wrote:
What is the chance of a person so in love with sc2 that they visit TL.net not watching an MLG event?

It doesnt matter how awful their production is - we still sat there through it all, and were still watching on Sunday night.

Apologies are necessary, but it is not this community that need to be placated - we will be watching every event even if they repeatedly are like Dallas 2011.


Nope, It was true a year ago, but now there is so much SC2 going on that people needs to start choosing. With a MLG Dallas happening again, people will not be following it live. Hell, a big number of people watching live this weekend did it directly from the stream feed to be able to watch anything and by that bypassed the commercials, so the sponsors would not be so impressed in the end.

Over the weekend they had almost 1 million uniqe visitors on the site, that is more people then the hardcore SC2 base. GOM promoted this event, I don't think they will continue to do that if it fails and fails every time. Sony Ericsson has already promoted SC2 with GOMtv, they have know how within the company of what to demand and what kind of promotion they should get for a dollar. Big international companys do not promote stuff for fun.

MLG needs to get peoples trust back, otherwise it is going to slowly die in the eyes of the international SC2 audience. MLG has even made a deal to try to sell the production/concept in europe, that will be a major fail if they keep on doing it like this when others do it so much better. It will be hard enough with the competion they are facing from much stronger esport brands in europe, like Dreamhack and IEM/ESL.
I am not young enough to know everything.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
April 05 2011 12:36 GMT
#219
On April 05 2011 21:25 Frankon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 10:56 Jiddra wrote:
@MLG_Sundance
Sundance DiGiovanni
@anepicname Site saw just under a million uniques during the event. Will be releasing final numbers once we get a full picture.

Translating from marketing speach to normal is easy...
Just delete one ZERO. So
Show nested quote +

@anepicname Site saw just under 100k uniques during the event. Will wont release final numbers cause it could be bad for us.


You mean he hyped the figure with 900 000, or am I missing something here?
I am not young enough to know everything.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
April 05 2011 12:42 GMT
#220
On April 05 2011 21:36 Jiddra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 21:25 Frankon wrote:
On April 05 2011 10:56 Jiddra wrote:
@MLG_Sundance
Sundance DiGiovanni
@anepicname Site saw just under a million uniques during the event. Will be releasing final numbers once we get a full picture.

Translating from marketing speach to normal is easy...
Just delete one ZERO. So

@anepicname Site saw just under 100k uniques during the event. Will wont release final numbers cause it could be bad for us.


You mean he hyped the figure with 900 000, or am I missing something here?


If there is one thing we have established from this its that Sundance is a pretty honest guy and would be unlikely to lie about this.
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