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Adila
Profile Joined April 2010
United States874 Posts
April 05 2011 12:46 GMT
#221
On April 05 2011 21:42 Klonere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 21:36 Jiddra wrote:
On April 05 2011 21:25 Frankon wrote:
On April 05 2011 10:56 Jiddra wrote:
@MLG_Sundance
Sundance DiGiovanni
@anepicname Site saw just under a million uniques during the event. Will be releasing final numbers once we get a full picture.

Translating from marketing speach to normal is easy...
Just delete one ZERO. So

@anepicname Site saw just under 100k uniques during the event. Will wont release final numbers cause it could be bad for us.


You mean he hyped the figure with 900 000, or am I missing something here?


If there is one thing we have established from this its that Sundance is a pretty honest guy and would be unlikely to lie about this.


It would also be a HUGE risk to lie to the sponsors like that.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
April 05 2011 12:49 GMT
#222
On April 05 2011 21:46 Adila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 21:42 Klonere wrote:
On April 05 2011 21:36 Jiddra wrote:
On April 05 2011 21:25 Frankon wrote:
On April 05 2011 10:56 Jiddra wrote:
@MLG_Sundance
Sundance DiGiovanni
@anepicname Site saw just under a million uniques during the event. Will be releasing final numbers once we get a full picture.

Translating from marketing speach to normal is easy...
Just delete one ZERO. So

@anepicname Site saw just under 100k uniques during the event. Will wont release final numbers cause it could be bad for us.


You mean he hyped the figure with 900 000, or am I missing something here?


If there is one thing we have established from this its that Sundance is a pretty honest guy and would be unlikely to lie about this.


It would also be a HUGE risk to lie to the sponsors like that.


And the sponsors would be given figures anyway, so the lie wouldn't be alive for long.
I am not young enough to know everything.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 13:05:25
April 05 2011 12:55 GMT
#223
[image loading]

Comparing MLG and TL (MLG had a 400% increase in visitors past weekend)

And to show what real traffic means... Lets add justin.tv and ustream.tv
[image loading]
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 13:01:23
April 05 2011 12:59 GMT
#224
On April 05 2011 21:55 Frankon wrote:
[image loading]

So technically the site had a 400% increase in the visitors during the MLG (half for forums, half for streams)

Pretty similar to TL
[image loading]


Both on same graph
[image loading]


Any real numbers?
I am not young enough to know everything.
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
April 05 2011 13:02 GMT
#225
On April 05 2011 21:59 Jiddra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 21:55 Frankon wrote:
[image loading]

So technically the site had a 400% increase in the visitors during the MLG (half for forums, half for streams)

Pretty similar to TL
[image loading]


Both on same graph
[image loading]


What is the scale, millions of uniqe views?

Sadly its in % of global traffic. Trying to find better webstats site...
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
April 05 2011 13:04 GMT
#226
Well the next MLG will give them a chance to prove it and make up for this. I hope it'll go better then .
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
April 05 2011 13:35 GMT
#227
On April 05 2011 12:55 MLG_Sundance wrote:
I wanted to quickly post to let all of you know that we will be working to not only give you a stable stream in Cbus but a better broadcast experience as well (fewer delays, more matches, more interviews and a proper closing ceremony).

I know that many of you have no faith in us but I just want you all to know that we are committed to this for the long haul.

Please keep the suggestions coming. Although we can't do everything it's helpful to hear constructive criticism.

-sd


(edit)

Yes game audio and casters for the crowd will also be looked into.

It's been a long and rough weekend - I'm not running at 100% capacity.


good to hear Sundance, we have faith in you

oh and awesome logo
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Gobbles
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada91 Posts
April 05 2011 14:19 GMT
#228
Live and learn, with double the expected traffic there really aren't any clutch changes you can make to boost the experience. it's too late but that happens. I look forward to the next one and the VOD's it is going to be awesome! Great event.
You already said spite
denad
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden67 Posts
April 05 2011 15:15 GMT
#229
<3 to MLG for taking time and communicating with the community. I have faith that you can do better in the future.
RoyalCheese
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic745 Posts
April 05 2011 18:56 GMT
#230
It's unfortunate that the MLG went the way it went, but i'm sure they learned they lesson and it will only make them better. I really enjoyed the parts of stream when it actually worked so i have high hopes for the future of MLG. Only wish i could have see it IRL
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Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 19:05:48
April 05 2011 19:04 GMT
#231
Well to be honest,


MLG stream was pretty bad, but i dont expect every esports stream to be perfect. Its 100% digital content. Streaming a computer game over the internet. (and i mean streaming many instances of the game to close to a million people. not just like one person streaming on their free time, this was crazy huge :O)

Of course problems are going to happen, and this is one of those times.


Yeah it was bad but im sure after this Sundance is going to make sure that nothing of this scale happens again. And if it does, then its definately a problem with MLG and their staff.

Maybe smaller problems will happen at cbus, but i doubt anything this bad will happen ever again at mlg.

I, for one, am excited to watch the next MLG, and even though this one was disappointing, it was still fun watching the matches i was able to watch.

And im actually glad to see someone inside the company (sundance) actually respond to the customer complaints publicly. Sign of a good organization.

Good luck with MLG Cbus!


EDIT:

also, Holy shit, 1 million viewers?

Crazy!!
Maruprime.
PrimeTimey
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada369 Posts
April 05 2011 19:07 GMT
#232
I would question how MLG experienced "double the traffic expected" based on this screen shot below.

[image loading]

As you can see, the first large blip was MLG Raleigh, followed by DC and Dallas during the 2010 circuit. Then, the red line is for the new website url majorleaguegaming.com is starting to get cut off, but not greatly larger than MLG Raleigh. How this was "double the traffic expected" I'm confused about.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
April 05 2011 19:33 GMT
#233
On April 05 2011 12:55 MLG_Sundance wrote:
I wanted to quickly post to let all of you know that we will be working to not only give you a stable stream in Cbus but a better broadcast experience as well (fewer delays, more matches, more interviews and a proper closing ceremony).

I know that many of you have no faith in us but I just want you all to know that we are committed to this for the long haul.

Please keep the suggestions coming. Although we can't do everything it's helpful to hear constructive criticism.

-sd


(edit)

Yes game audio and casters for the crowd will also be looked into.

It's been a long and rough weekend - I'm not running at 100% capacity.

I'm wishing you as much good luck as you need. I'll be your #1 groupie if you pull it off for Columbus.
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zaii
Profile Joined October 2010
Guam2611 Posts
April 05 2011 19:45 GMT
#234
On April 05 2011 21:24 Matkap wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 20:29 Silkath wrote:
On April 05 2011 20:22 Matkap wrote:
editing the vods takes woo much time...eh what?

dont want to keep throwing shit at them or something, but I can guarantee you that If you give me 1000 bucks Ill have it done in 2-3, 4 days max, and Im not a pro. editor by any means, but its just copy and paste (and cut)...


Most games weren't cast/recorded at all, so for 90% of games there are only replays. Wait a few days and the usual suspects will start casting games from MLG and vods will be up on youtube before you know it. Fingers crossed for the 2nd meeting between TLO and InControl to appear asap, from the tweets some of those games sounded epic.



I was talking about this

Show nested quote +
On April 05 2011 13:04 MLG_Sundance wrote:

Last thing before go to bed for real - to edit the stream would take too much time. It's either the stream with delays or go dark. After all the issues we decided that something was better than nothing.

Will also be bundling up all the replays as soon as we are able to.


Sorry, but no, that is being lazy.




You would rather have no stream at all! wtf
Char711
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States862 Posts
April 05 2011 20:03 GMT
#235
On April 05 2011 12:55 MLG_Sundance wrote:
I wanted to quickly post to let all of you know that we will be working to not only give you a stable stream in Cbus but a better broadcast experience as well (fewer delays, more matches, more interviews and a proper closing ceremony).

I know that many of you have no faith in us but I just want you all to know that we are committed to this for the long haul.

Please keep the suggestions coming. Although we can't do everything it's helpful to hear constructive criticism.

-sd


(edit)

Yes game audio and casters for the crowd will also be looked into.

It's been a long and rough weekend - I'm not running at 100% capacity.

I'm just happy that MLG has had, for lack of a better term, the balls to man up and apologize for everything repeatedly even in the face of heated criticism. I'm no longer a MLG fan, but they've certainly done well enough that I'm open to coming back into the fold pending future success. If the next MLG event isn't good, well, I'm just not sure if I can give them more chances.
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Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 20:22:24
April 05 2011 20:19 GMT
#236
Great that he apologized and is making good PR moves but actions speak louder than words. Starting the next MLG on time on day 1 and with very limited dead air would be a real statement and influence my decision to pay for MLG or not much more than anything he can say. There is a silver lining to the cloud in that this was a wake-up call and may get MLG to fix some of the problems they have had for years so they never again even come close to flirting with a situation like this.
lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
April 05 2011 20:28 GMT
#237
Does anyone see where you can watch the restreams yet? I cant find it anywhere on mlgtv just the opening ceremony but no games
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Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
April 05 2011 20:31 GMT
#238
On April 06 2011 05:28 lightrise wrote:
Does anyone see where you can watch the restreams yet? I cant find it anywhere on mlgtv just the opening ceremony but no games


http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/live
I am not young enough to know everything.
Pleiades
Profile Joined June 2010
United States472 Posts
April 05 2011 20:35 GMT
#239
Just proof that E-Sports is indeed growing.... when the unexpected sheer number of people crashes your hardware.
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sOvrn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States678 Posts
April 05 2011 21:00 GMT
#240
On April 05 2011 12:55 MLG_Sundance wrote:
I wanted to quickly post to let all of you know that we will be working to not only give you a stable stream in Cbus but a better broadcast experience as well (fewer delays, more matches, more interviews and a proper closing ceremony).

I know that many of you have no faith in us but I just want you all to know that we are committed to this for the long haul.

Please keep the suggestions coming. Although we can't do everything it's helpful to hear constructive criticism.

-sd


(edit)

Yes game audio and casters for the crowd will also be looked into.

It's been a long and rough weekend - I'm not running at 100% capacity.


I have faith you guys will learn from the mistakes of this last MLG and deliver on a proper SC2 competition for us spectators. Best of luck, looking forward to see the improvements in the next MLG.
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