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On April 05 2011 21:42 Klonere wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 21:36 Jiddra wrote:On April 05 2011 21:25 Frankon wrote:On April 05 2011 10:56 Jiddra wrote: @MLG_Sundance Sundance DiGiovanni @anepicname Site saw just under a million uniques during the event. Will be releasing final numbers once we get a full picture.
Translating from marketing speach to normal is easy... Just delete one ZERO. So @anepicname Site saw just under 100k uniques during the event. Will wont release final numbers cause it could be bad for us.
You mean he hyped the figure with 900 000, or am I missing something here? If there is one thing we have established from this its that Sundance is a pretty honest guy and would be unlikely to lie about this.
It would also be a HUGE risk to lie to the sponsors like that.
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On April 05 2011 21:46 Adila wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 21:42 Klonere wrote:On April 05 2011 21:36 Jiddra wrote:On April 05 2011 21:25 Frankon wrote:On April 05 2011 10:56 Jiddra wrote: @MLG_Sundance Sundance DiGiovanni @anepicname Site saw just under a million uniques during the event. Will be releasing final numbers once we get a full picture.
Translating from marketing speach to normal is easy... Just delete one ZERO. So @anepicname Site saw just under 100k uniques during the event. Will wont release final numbers cause it could be bad for us.
You mean he hyped the figure with 900 000, or am I missing something here? If there is one thing we have established from this its that Sundance is a pretty honest guy and would be unlikely to lie about this. It would also be a HUGE risk to lie to the sponsors like that.
And the sponsors would be given figures anyway, so the lie wouldn't be alive for long.
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Comparing MLG and TL (MLG had a 400% increase in visitors past weekend)
And to show what real traffic means... Lets add justin.tv and ustream.tv
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On April 05 2011 21:55 Frankon wrote:So technically the site had a 400% increase in the visitors during the MLG (half for forums, half for streams) Pretty similar to TL Both on same graph
Any real numbers?
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On April 05 2011 21:59 Jiddra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 21:55 Frankon wrote:So technically the site had a 400% increase in the visitors during the MLG (half for forums, half for streams) Pretty similar to TL Both on same graph What is the scale, millions of uniqe views? Sadly its in % of global traffic. Trying to find better webstats site...
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Well the next MLG will give them a chance to prove it and make up for this. I hope it'll go better then .
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On April 05 2011 12:55 MLG_Sundance wrote: I wanted to quickly post to let all of you know that we will be working to not only give you a stable stream in Cbus but a better broadcast experience as well (fewer delays, more matches, more interviews and a proper closing ceremony).
I know that many of you have no faith in us but I just want you all to know that we are committed to this for the long haul.
Please keep the suggestions coming. Although we can't do everything it's helpful to hear constructive criticism.
-sd
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Yes game audio and casters for the crowd will also be looked into.
It's been a long and rough weekend - I'm not running at 100% capacity.
good to hear Sundance, we have faith in you
oh and awesome logo
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Live and learn, with double the expected traffic there really aren't any clutch changes you can make to boost the experience. it's too late but that happens. I look forward to the next one and the VOD's it is going to be awesome! Great event.
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<3 to MLG for taking time and communicating with the community. I have faith that you can do better in the future.
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It's unfortunate that the MLG went the way it went, but i'm sure they learned they lesson and it will only make them better. I really enjoyed the parts of stream when it actually worked so i have high hopes for the future of MLG. Only wish i could have see it IRL
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Well to be honest,
MLG stream was pretty bad, but i dont expect every esports stream to be perfect. Its 100% digital content. Streaming a computer game over the internet. (and i mean streaming many instances of the game to close to a million people. not just like one person streaming on their free time, this was crazy huge :O)
Of course problems are going to happen, and this is one of those times.
Yeah it was bad but im sure after this Sundance is going to make sure that nothing of this scale happens again. And if it does, then its definately a problem with MLG and their staff.
Maybe smaller problems will happen at cbus, but i doubt anything this bad will happen ever again at mlg.
I, for one, am excited to watch the next MLG, and even though this one was disappointing, it was still fun watching the matches i was able to watch.
And im actually glad to see someone inside the company (sundance) actually respond to the customer complaints publicly. Sign of a good organization.
Good luck with MLG Cbus!
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also, Holy shit, 1 million viewers?
Crazy!!
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I would question how MLG experienced "double the traffic expected" based on this screen shot below.
![[image loading]](http://i51.tinypic.com/3149ssg.jpg)
As you can see, the first large blip was MLG Raleigh, followed by DC and Dallas during the 2010 circuit. Then, the red line is for the new website url majorleaguegaming.com is starting to get cut off, but not greatly larger than MLG Raleigh. How this was "double the traffic expected" I'm confused about.
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On April 05 2011 12:55 MLG_Sundance wrote: I wanted to quickly post to let all of you know that we will be working to not only give you a stable stream in Cbus but a better broadcast experience as well (fewer delays, more matches, more interviews and a proper closing ceremony).
I know that many of you have no faith in us but I just want you all to know that we are committed to this for the long haul.
Please keep the suggestions coming. Although we can't do everything it's helpful to hear constructive criticism.
-sd
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Yes game audio and casters for the crowd will also be looked into.
It's been a long and rough weekend - I'm not running at 100% capacity. I'm wishing you as much good luck as you need. I'll be your #1 groupie if you pull it off for Columbus.
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On April 05 2011 21:24 Matkap wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 20:29 Silkath wrote:On April 05 2011 20:22 Matkap wrote: editing the vods takes woo much time...eh what?
dont want to keep throwing shit at them or something, but I can guarantee you that If you give me 1000 bucks Ill have it done in 2-3, 4 days max, and Im not a pro. editor by any means, but its just copy and paste (and cut)... Most games weren't cast/recorded at all, so for 90% of games there are only replays. Wait a few days and the usual suspects will start casting games from MLG and vods will be up on youtube before you know it. Fingers crossed for the 2nd meeting between TLO and InControl to appear asap, from the tweets some of those games sounded epic. I was talking about this Show nested quote +On April 05 2011 13:04 MLG_Sundance wrote:
Last thing before go to bed for real - to edit the stream would take too much time. It's either the stream with delays or go dark. After all the issues we decided that something was better than nothing.
Will also be bundling up all the replays as soon as we are able to. Sorry, but no, that is being lazy.
You would rather have no stream at all! wtf
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On April 05 2011 12:55 MLG_Sundance wrote: I wanted to quickly post to let all of you know that we will be working to not only give you a stable stream in Cbus but a better broadcast experience as well (fewer delays, more matches, more interviews and a proper closing ceremony).
I know that many of you have no faith in us but I just want you all to know that we are committed to this for the long haul.
Please keep the suggestions coming. Although we can't do everything it's helpful to hear constructive criticism.
-sd
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Yes game audio and casters for the crowd will also be looked into.
It's been a long and rough weekend - I'm not running at 100% capacity. I'm just happy that MLG has had, for lack of a better term, the balls to man up and apologize for everything repeatedly even in the face of heated criticism. I'm no longer a MLG fan, but they've certainly done well enough that I'm open to coming back into the fold pending future success. If the next MLG event isn't good, well, I'm just not sure if I can give them more chances.
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Great that he apologized and is making good PR moves but actions speak louder than words. Starting the next MLG on time on day 1 and with very limited dead air would be a real statement and influence my decision to pay for MLG or not much more than anything he can say. There is a silver lining to the cloud in that this was a wake-up call and may get MLG to fix some of the problems they have had for years so they never again even come close to flirting with a situation like this.
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Does anyone see where you can watch the restreams yet? I cant find it anywhere on mlgtv just the opening ceremony but no games
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On April 06 2011 05:28 lightrise wrote:Does anyone see where you can watch the restreams yet? I cant find it anywhere on mlgtv just the opening ceremony but no games 
http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/live
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Just proof that E-Sports is indeed growing.... when the unexpected sheer number of people crashes your hardware.
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On April 05 2011 12:55 MLG_Sundance wrote: I wanted to quickly post to let all of you know that we will be working to not only give you a stable stream in Cbus but a better broadcast experience as well (fewer delays, more matches, more interviews and a proper closing ceremony).
I know that many of you have no faith in us but I just want you all to know that we are committed to this for the long haul.
Please keep the suggestions coming. Although we can't do everything it's helpful to hear constructive criticism.
-sd
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Yes game audio and casters for the crowd will also be looked into.
It's been a long and rough weekend - I'm not running at 100% capacity.
I have faith you guys will learn from the mistakes of this last MLG and deliver on a proper SC2 competition for us spectators. Best of luck, looking forward to see the improvements in the next MLG.
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