EPTI will have a "wait and see" attitude towards this.
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hidiliho
Canada685 Posts
I will have a "wait and see" attitude towards this. | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13427 Posts
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nforce
Bulgaria116 Posts
Just give them a chance before making a decision to never buy it. No one has to pre-order it, check it out - if you like what you see please support it. No need to bring it down before it even started in order to justify an opinion about whether or not it will be worth it. | ||
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TimeSpiral
United States1010 Posts
On April 03 2011 03:56 arb wrote: No one had seen what gom had to offer during GSL Season 1, people bought and what did they get? A shitty stream lots of freezing and all of that. Why would anyone pay for an untested product? Would you go out and buy a car for example that hadnt been tested? And its actually one of the most unsafe ones on the market? No? Didnt think so. Stop pulling the "horr dorr too young and ignorant" card cause it just doesnt work. No one in thier right mind is going to buy something when they havent even see what it has to offer yet. You don't get to "try it then buy it later," man. That's just not how things work. Consumers take a risk when they purchase a product. NASL has expressed what they intend to offer. It's not a huge mystery - you get to watch professional starcraft 2 games with casters. Will it work to your expectations? Is it worth the money you paid? There is a simple way to find out - buy it. That's what warranties are for. I'd be willing to bet that if you purchased the subscription, and were unsatisfied, you could get a refund. Your last paragraph is just silly. Sorry. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On April 03 2011 03:47 TimeSpiral wrote: I don't get it. -------------------- Is it because the majority of people complaining about commercials or subscriptions fees are too young, ignorant, or are they really so self-entitled? I'd even be willing to guess that the majority of people unwilling to pay and complain can afford it. There are probably a few that must exercise control and not purchase it due to financial reasons, but I'd guess that it a minority. I don't get it! Business requires customers. Customers are required to pay. If you are consuming a product, why do you assume you should get it for free? If someone has something you want, or is offering something you want, it is only fair and proper to trade something of equal value with that person. NASL is going to a lot of trouble, working very hard, and spending tons of money to deliver this product to you. And as a marketing manager I can tell you this, you as the consumer, watching an Ad IS NOT ENOUGH. These companies track the efficacy of each channel they advertise on and guess what? If no one buys the product from that channel they do not continue to advertise there. I'm not going to get to detailed, but the vast majority of people are completely clueless as to how the online marketing and advertising models work. It can be extremely difficult to make money; extremely. So when you see things like commercials, and subscriptions fees, just keep this in the back of your head: these things are not optional, but absolutely 100% REQUIRED to work or that product/service will no longer exist. I'm speaking more generally here than specifically with NASL, but I see this type of attitude festering in this community all the time. It drives me nuts. So you would buy a product you don't know anything about except what is supposed to do? Not only that but the price is the same of a product that is tested and works now as it should (most of the time) Yes a business requires costumers and its their JOB to earn those by delivering a good product. From what we seen so far the only thing that is actually good is the players. For a tournament of this scale it requires: -A good site where we you can see at least the schedule/players/time -A fully working and tested stream, I dare to say that the showmatch on this point was a flop. it should have been tested before, not the preview of your tournament that is the test... I know its very hard to organise this all perfectly but considering the price you would think they want this to actually success, not half assed btw, I love how you throw the young and ignorant excuse cause its most of the times the opposite where children who don't understand the value of money throw it away since they get it from their parents. | ||
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Zeri
United States773 Posts
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fuzzz
267 Posts
On April 03 2011 04:10 nforce wrote: GOM's stream is still filled with disconnects, interruptions, lag spikes and often it will stop working altogether. Yet people still pay and no one complains really. This is 3 months - 20-25$. Just give them a chance before making a decision to never buy it. No one has to pre-order it, check it out - if you like what you see please support it. No need to bring it down before it even started in order to justify an opinion about whether or not it will be worth it. there will always be issues in the internetz, nothing is perfect. but you cannot deny gom did improved by ALOT. and beside, the players are just another demension than those @ mlg | ||
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macattacc
Sweden15 Posts
25$ is alot of money for 3 months of entertainment. Besides i jump at every opportunity to support e-sports, i've even bought gsl season tickets when i was to busy to even play myself let alone watch a bunch of vods  | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On April 03 2011 04:18 Assirra wrote: So you would buy a product you don't know anything about except what is supposed to do? Not only that but the price is the same of a product that is tested and works now as it should (most of the time) Yes a business requires costumers and its their JOB to earn those by delivering a good product. From what we seen so far the only thing that is actually good is the players. For a tournament of this scale it requires: -A good site where we you can see at least the schedule/players/time -A fully working and tested stream, I dare to say that the showmatch on this point was a flop. it should have been tested before, not the preview of your tournament that is the test... I know its very hard to organise this all perfectly but considering the price you would think they want this to actually success, not half assed btw, I love how you throw the young and ignorant excuse cause its most of the times the opposite where children who don't understand the value of money throw it away since they get it from their parents. Pretty much exactly what i think no ones going to buy something without seeing what it can do first hand | ||
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dormer
United States1314 Posts
On April 03 2011 04:14 TimeSpiral wrote: You don't get to "try it then buy it later," man. That's just not how things work. Consumers take a risk when they purchase a product. NASL has expressed what they intend to offer. It's not a huge mystery - you get to watch professional starcraft 2 games with casters. Will it work to your expectations? Is it worth the money you paid? There is a simple way to find out - buy it. That's what warranties are for. I'd be willing to bet that if you purchased the subscription, and were unsatisfied, you could get a refund. Your last paragraph is just silly. Sorry. What do you mean, that's not how things work? That's exactly how things work -- free trials, free services, free streams. NASL is offering a free stream, as well. A lot of people aren't sure of what to expect, so they're not going to pay now -- they're going to watch the free stream, see if they like it, and then maybe pay for higher quality and VODs, if they feel it's worth the money. Why does this bother you so much? | ||
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Luiwtf
England217 Posts
On April 03 2011 04:14 TimeSpiral wrote: You don't get to "try it then buy it later," man. That's just not how things work. Consumers take a risk when they purchase a product. NASL has expressed what they intend to offer. It's not a huge mystery - you get to watch professional starcraft 2 games with casters. Will it work to your expectations? Is it worth the money you paid? There is a simple way to find out - buy it. That's what warranties are for. I'd be willing to bet that if you purchased the subscription, and were unsatisfied, you could get a refund. Your last paragraph is just silly. Sorry. Some things you do get to try before you buy, other things you can wait for reviews and other peoples opinions of the product. Blindly buying stuff based on what the people making it say is retarded. | ||
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Hold-Lurker
United States403 Posts
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Vari
United States532 Posts
On April 03 2011 04:10 nforce wrote: GOM's stream is still filled with disconnects, interruptions, lag spikes and often it will stop working altogether. Yet people still pay and no one complains really. This is 3 months - 20-25$ I have paid for every gsl since season 1 and fully plan to pay for nasl, but I have also never had a disconnect, interruption, or even lag spike that I can remember watching gsl. maybe one. don't honestly know what you're talking about. but as I said I do plan to pay for nasl. but if it's as bad as, say, the mlg I paid for this weekend, I will be disappointed. | ||
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Rodiel3
France1158 Posts
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Titorelli
2492 Posts
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
Easy buy for me if the service works. I hope I can try this first | ||
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NintendoStar
United States217 Posts
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
On April 03 2011 04:36 NintendoStar wrote: I'm not paying until I see who the casters are. main commentators are Incontrol and Gretorp and they'll occasionally have guest commentators | ||
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Cider
United States198 Posts
On April 03 2011 04:36 NintendoStar wrote: I'm not paying until I see who the casters are. Incontrol and Gretorp with some occasional guest casters. | ||
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GaussWaffle
United States211 Posts
Well it just so happens I have enough for both : ) | ||
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