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Roxy
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada753 Posts
March 25 2011 16:53 GMT
#101
On March 26 2011 01:38 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 01:35 Roxy wrote:
LOL! at Terrancraft

Per your list:
2 Zerg
3 Protoss
19 Terran

Congrats to Marine King.. he's definitely a solid player. He must have learned how to use a second unit in order to get to top spot though!


How did you get 19 terrans?


24 - 3 - 2 = 19

Just noticed a random on the list though

So disregard my post.. game is balanced
http://sc2ranks.com/us/941824/Roxy - Masters Protoss: "Respect my authoritai"
SolHeiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1264 Posts
March 25 2011 16:54 GMT
#102
On March 26 2011 00:43 ChaseR wrote:
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On March 26 2011 00:34 Sid(TB) wrote:
On March 26 2011 00:15 ChaseR wrote:
Next seasons might be shorter like 3 months or something, so 4600 might be the highest anyone will ever get. Everyone one that list is sick thou, once GrandMaster takes effect there will be cross-region matchmaking that's going to flesh out the best of the best omg so hard :o


source plz on cross region match making in grandmaster?

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/2054862#blog

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This league pits each region’s top StarCraft II players against one another to determine who belongs at the top of the ladder

-_-

@jiabung Your right, I was just going to write about how they worded it, it's never crystal clear is it :/

@Sein Hm, but ICCUP had like players from all over the world, mostly Koreans dominating thou...


You're not reading it right. It says the top players in their respective regions, not cross-region play.
LaMatrone
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada24 Posts
March 25 2011 16:58 GMT
#103
yea, 18 terran in top 24 but none of them going into final in the GSL. Points in ladder just mean you grind alot. It's awesome, but still doesn't indicate anything. It might just mean that 18 terran are workign way harder than other to be up there. Anyway, sick score!!! 1600 o-o
rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
March 25 2011 17:00 GMT
#104
On March 26 2011 00:47 RivalryRedux wrote:
If anyone is wondering about activity levels I went through SC2ranks and found the average # of wins for masters players (left out random)

Average wins

US Masters
Protoss - 694
Terran - 621
Zerg - 714


EU Masters
Protoss - 831
Terran - 738
Zerg - 833


KR Masters
Protoss - 1203
Terran - 980
Zerg - 1169


Yep. Top US players either don't ladder as much (and play customs) or play on other servers. This is why there are no US players in the top of the world standings.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
March 25 2011 17:05 GMT
#105
On March 26 2011 02:00 Anihc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 00:47 RivalryRedux wrote:
If anyone is wondering about activity levels I went through SC2ranks and found the average # of wins for masters players (left out random)

Average wins

US Masters
Protoss - 694
Terran - 621
Zerg - 714


EU Masters
Protoss - 831
Terran - 738
Zerg - 833


KR Masters
Protoss - 1203
Terran - 980
Zerg - 1169


Yep. Top US players either don't ladder as much (and play customs) or play on other servers. This is why there are no US players in the top of the world standings.

also the US servers tend to be a hell of alot more random in terms of strategies encountered, and sometimes you just lose to stuff you've never seen and never will again because you scouting him going one thing and it was actually something completely different.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
March 25 2011 17:08 GMT
#106
Wait, merz is 16th in the world??? O_O
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
zyzski
Profile Joined May 2010
United States698 Posts
March 25 2011 17:10 GMT
#107
EU/KR ladder so inflated compared to USA, wowowow
TYBG
Helios.Star
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States548 Posts
March 25 2011 17:13 GMT
#108
On March 25 2011 22:02 Dommk wrote:
White-ra was super close to that, too bad the new (bugged?) match making system absolutely crushed his chances.

Just look at his match history lol, 11wins 1 point wins (his 2point wins were bonus pool lol), and everytime he lost he lost like 20 points


The other day on his stream he was getting +0 (thats actually what it said) for a win.
DivineSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States128 Posts
March 25 2011 17:14 GMT
#109
On March 25 2011 22:04 RuneZerg wrote:
18 terrans in top 24 :O


2 Zergs, 1 Random and only 4 Toss as well, Honestly not surprising, it's the easiest race to play and every game feel you "Deserved" your win or loss, so their ladder sessions can be surprisingly longer. Just my Zerg Tears opinion
Follow me on Twitter @vGDivine Vision Gaming. vGCommunity.com
bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
March 25 2011 17:14 GMT
#110
On March 25 2011 22:46 eYeball wrote:
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On March 25 2011 21:59 ch33psh33p wrote:
PlayXP rumors suggest MantoMan is also MarineKing, but nobody is sure as of yet.

MKP possibly has 1/2/3 in world/korea.


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O.O I don't understand how it's physically possible to play enough games to get that high on three separate accounts. Especially since I see IdrA and Tyler and other people getting +2 and +0 points for some wins, and losing 20 points for a single loss.


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I'm pretty sure you're right.

This means MKP pretty much holds the top3 at the moment..


I'm pretty sure MarineKingPrime doesn't plays protoss.


It's a shared account in Prime house. Might be more protoss games played on the account and less Terran games. It's also possible that MKP plays protoss to learn how to counter it. He was a protoss player in BW.
We are dusts in the vast cosmic arena. Need to make the most out of life when we still have it.
rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
March 25 2011 17:19 GMT
#111
On March 26 2011 02:05 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 02:00 Anihc wrote:
On March 26 2011 00:47 RivalryRedux wrote:
If anyone is wondering about activity levels I went through SC2ranks and found the average # of wins for masters players (left out random)

Average wins

US Masters
Protoss - 694
Terran - 621
Zerg - 714


EU Masters
Protoss - 831
Terran - 738
Zerg - 833


KR Masters
Protoss - 1203
Terran - 980
Zerg - 1169


Yep. Top US players either don't ladder as much (and play customs) or play on other servers. This is why there are no US players in the top of the world standings.

also the US servers tend to be a hell of alot more random in terms of strategies encountered, and sometimes you just lose to stuff you've never seen and never will again because you scouting him going one thing and it was actually something completely different.


Uhh... no. What are you trying to say, that everyone does more coin flip builds and the skill gap is extremely small at the top? You have no basis at all for what you're suggesting.
GriMeR
Profile Joined February 2010
United States148 Posts
March 25 2011 17:21 GMT
#112
Us needs some work it seems :S
"Now let's have coffee and discuss the bunker build time!" "I'm still kinda on the fence about it Dustin, we can't make changes like these on a whim" "Agreed, agreed ... what do you think David?" "Hmmm what? ... I mean, o yeah, Terran definitely seems
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
March 25 2011 17:23 GMT
#113
On March 25 2011 22:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 21:59 ch33psh33p wrote:
PlayXP rumors suggest MantoMan is also MarineKing, but nobody is sure as of yet.

MKP possibly has 1/2/3 in world/korea.


O.O I don't understand how it's physically possible to play enough games to get that high on three separate accounts. Especially since I see IdrA and Tyler and other people getting +2 and +0 points for some wins, and losing 20 points for a single loss.


Bonus pool allows it. That and aggressive laddering with an equally aggressive style like MKPs
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
March 25 2011 17:24 GMT
#114
On March 26 2011 02:19 Anihc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 02:05 PrinceXizor wrote:
On March 26 2011 02:00 Anihc wrote:
On March 26 2011 00:47 RivalryRedux wrote:
If anyone is wondering about activity levels I went through SC2ranks and found the average # of wins for masters players (left out random)

Average wins

US Masters
Protoss - 694
Terran - 621
Zerg - 714


EU Masters
Protoss - 831
Terran - 738
Zerg - 833


KR Masters
Protoss - 1203
Terran - 980
Zerg - 1169


Yep. Top US players either don't ladder as much (and play customs) or play on other servers. This is why there are no US players in the top of the world standings.

also the US servers tend to be a hell of alot more random in terms of strategies encountered, and sometimes you just lose to stuff you've never seen and never will again because you scouting him going one thing and it was actually something completely different.


Uhh... no. What are you trying to say, that everyone does more coin flip builds and the skill gap is extremely small at the top? You have no basis at all for what you're suggesting.

apart from experience no, no basis at all. but people do random stuff in the US server. it's alot less standardized than Euro or Korea or SEA. ALOT less. the only people who play super standardized are the teamed players.
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
March 25 2011 17:27 GMT
#115
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rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
March 25 2011 17:29 GMT
#116
On March 26 2011 02:24 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 02:19 Anihc wrote:
On March 26 2011 02:05 PrinceXizor wrote:
On March 26 2011 02:00 Anihc wrote:
On March 26 2011 00:47 RivalryRedux wrote:
If anyone is wondering about activity levels I went through SC2ranks and found the average # of wins for masters players (left out random)

Average wins

US Masters
Protoss - 694
Terran - 621
Zerg - 714


EU Masters
Protoss - 831
Terran - 738
Zerg - 833


KR Masters
Protoss - 1203
Terran - 980
Zerg - 1169


Yep. Top US players either don't ladder as much (and play customs) or play on other servers. This is why there are no US players in the top of the world standings.

also the US servers tend to be a hell of alot more random in terms of strategies encountered, and sometimes you just lose to stuff you've never seen and never will again because you scouting him going one thing and it was actually something completely different.


Uhh... no. What are you trying to say, that everyone does more coin flip builds and the skill gap is extremely small at the top? You have no basis at all for what you're suggesting.

apart from experience no, no basis at all. but people do random stuff in the US server. it's alot less standardized than Euro or Korea or SEA. ALOT less. the only people who play super standardized are the teamed players.


Maybe that's true overall, but it's not true at the top of the ladder, and it definitely doesn't explain why top NA ladderers have lower points than the rest of the world.
Slunk
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany768 Posts
March 25 2011 17:39 GMT
#117
On March 26 2011 02:23 Zlasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 22:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 25 2011 21:59 ch33psh33p wrote:
PlayXP rumors suggest MantoMan is also MarineKing, but nobody is sure as of yet.

MKP possibly has 1/2/3 in world/korea.


O.O I don't understand how it's physically possible to play enough games to get that high on three separate accounts. Especially since I see IdrA and Tyler and other people getting +2 and +0 points for some wins, and losing 20 points for a single loss.


Bonus pool allows it. That and aggressive laddering with an equally aggressive style like MKPs


Why do people keep on saying that bonus pool had anything to do with anything. Every single guy on this list has received the same amount on bonus pool points. The only thing bonus pool does is fucking up rank comparisons over time and that is it. It doe not reward mass gaming (regarding how much even the laziest pro plays).
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
March 25 2011 17:43 GMT
#118
Wow that is insane MKP dominating the ladder.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
March 25 2011 17:46 GMT
#119
See? Korea is just sick, they got so many people up in the Top 20, despite so few players, it has like half the players NA has: Europe: 770,391, Korea: 479,369, NA: 997,398.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
March 25 2011 17:48 GMT
#120
On March 26 2011 02:29 Anihc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2011 02:24 PrinceXizor wrote:
On March 26 2011 02:19 Anihc wrote:
On March 26 2011 02:05 PrinceXizor wrote:
On March 26 2011 02:00 Anihc wrote:
On March 26 2011 00:47 RivalryRedux wrote:
If anyone is wondering about activity levels I went through SC2ranks and found the average # of wins for masters players (left out random)

Average wins

US Masters
Protoss - 694
Terran - 621
Zerg - 714


EU Masters
Protoss - 831
Terran - 738
Zerg - 833


KR Masters
Protoss - 1203
Terran - 980
Zerg - 1169


Yep. Top US players either don't ladder as much (and play customs) or play on other servers. This is why there are no US players in the top of the world standings.

also the US servers tend to be a hell of alot more random in terms of strategies encountered, and sometimes you just lose to stuff you've never seen and never will again because you scouting him going one thing and it was actually something completely different.


Uhh... no. What are you trying to say, that everyone does more coin flip builds and the skill gap is extremely small at the top? You have no basis at all for what you're suggesting.

apart from experience no, no basis at all. but people do random stuff in the US server. it's alot less standardized than Euro or Korea or SEA. ALOT less. the only people who play super standardized are the teamed players.


Maybe that's true overall, but it's not true at the top of the ladder, and it definitely doesn't explain why top NA ladderers have lower points than the rest of the world.


Perhaps several top players in the US does what Tyler does.
http://sc2ranks.com/kr/2695539/LiquidTyler
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