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bearhug
United States999 Posts
NO.1 is Marineking who becomes the first player to reach 4600 points. No.2 is also Marineking's account. And there is a random player in top 10. Edit (Thanks to ch33psh33p): ch33psh33p: PlayXP rumors suggest MantoMan is also MarineKing, but nobody is sure as of yet. MKP possibly has 1/2/3 in world/korea. (Yeah. Possible. Maybe some terran games on a protoss account. Also, MKP used to play protoss in BW.) ![[image loading]](http://i54.tinypic.com/2078iev.gif) | ||
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IPS.Mardow.
Germany713 Posts
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Deleted User 61629
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
On March 25 2011 21:56 IPS.Mardow. wrote: Yeah. It's the same guy. Is Happy the Happy from WC3? (I think from Russia?) | ||
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chrisolo
Germany2608 Posts
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
MKP possibly has 1/2/3 in world/korea. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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antilyon
Brazil2546 Posts
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
Just look at his match history lol, 11wins 1 point wins (his 2point wins were bonus pool lol), and everytime he lost he lost like 20 points | ||
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vdale
Germany1173 Posts
No. 1 and 2 in the Kroean ladder is really impressive. User was warned for this post | ||
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RuneZerg
Denmark90 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45028 Posts
On March 25 2011 21:59 ch33psh33p wrote: PlayXP rumors suggest MantoMan is also MarineKing, but nobody is sure as of yet. MKP possibly has 1/2/3 in world/korea. O.O I don't understand how it's physically possible to play enough games to get that high on three separate accounts. Especially since I see IdrA and Tyler and other people getting +2 and +0 points for some wins, and losing 20 points for a single loss. | ||
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Deadlyfish
Denmark1980 Posts
On March 25 2011 22:04 RuneZerg wrote: 18 terrans in top 24 :O You just opened pandora's box  | ||
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
On March 25 2011 22:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: O.O I don't understand how it's physically possible to play enough games to get that high on three separate accounts. Especially since I see IdrA and Tyler and other people getting +2 and +0 points for some wins, and losing 20 points for a single loss. This was done before Patch 1.3 hit korea I think. | ||
DivinO
United States4796 Posts
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Resolve
Singapore679 Posts
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FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
On March 25 2011 22:09 DivinO wrote: Where is zerg? :/ Theyre in there, all 3 of them :D also, how is 4600 points special? | ||
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
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ArYeS
Slovenia268 Posts
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michaelhasanalias
Korea (South)1231 Posts
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dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
On March 25 2011 22:10 Resolve wrote: I thought ManToMan = Prime's practice account. I recall watching Xeph's stream and some guy played against MTM and he said for that particular game MTM was MKP playing on the shared Prime account. I'm pretty sure you're right. This means MKP pretty much holds the top3 at the moment.. | ||
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Seronei
Sweden991 Posts
On March 25 2011 21:58 Inori wrote: What's up with US? And don't tell me everyone there just plays customs. US ladder might not be as active, less games played means less points. Says nothing about the skill level at least. | ||
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btlyger
United States470 Posts
On March 25 2011 22:11 FarbrorAbavna wrote: Theyre in there, all 3 of them :D also, how is 4600 points special? Since the ladder season is about to be over, its the highest anyone have and will achieve for season 1. | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On March 25 2011 21:59 ch33psh33p wrote: PlayXP rumors suggest MantoMan is also MarineKing, but nobody is sure as of yet. MKP possibly has 1/2/3 in world/korea. O.O I don't understand how it's physically possible to play enough games to get that high on three separate accounts. Especially since I see IdrA and Tyler and other people getting +2 and +0 points for some wins, and losing 20 points for a single loss. I'm pretty sure you're right. This means MKP pretty much holds the top3 at the moment.. I'm pretty sure MarineKingPrime doesn't plays protoss. | ||
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zyzq
United States3123 Posts
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Pipeline
Sweden1673 Posts
On March 25 2011 22:43 Seronei wrote: US ladder might not be as active, less games played means less points. Says nothing about the skill level at least. So what you are saying is that blizzards biggest market plays the least? Somehow I really doubt that. OT wp MKP | ||
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dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
On March 25 2011 22:46 eYeball wrote: I'm pretty sure MarineKingPrime doesn't plays protoss. I'm pretty sure I said it's a shared account. However, as the PlayXP comments indicate the last "few" games were played by a Terran.. guess who. | ||
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Terkill
Denmark38 Posts
Only 2? How is that even possible? Oh wait, I know Blizzard - Get your shit together and balance this game - Jesus... User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
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Provocateur
Sweden1665 Posts
On March 25 2011 22:50 Terkill wrote: Alright then, let's calculate the number of zergs on this ranking ladder! Only 2? How is that even possible? Oh wait, I know Blizzard - Get your shit together and balance this game - Jesus... Nerchio is zerg as well. 3z 3p 18t in top24 | ||
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dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
On March 25 2011 22:50 Terkill wrote: Alright then, let's calculate the number of zergs on this ranking ladder! Only 2? How is that even possible? Oh wait, I know Blizzard - Get your shit together and balance this game - Jesus... There's only 3 Protoss as well, 1 of them being played into the 4k+ range by a Terran. Does this mean Protoss is bad? Please, let's not derail the thread with Zerg whine. On March 25 2011 22:51 MangoTango wrote: Jesus Marine King ladders a lot. Aren't there rumors of the 3rd ranked account ALSO being MKP? For people who can be bothered to use google.translate, http://sc2prime.com/xe/?document_srl=39325&mid=community http://www.playxp.com/sc2/news/view.php?article_id=2702604 (from his fanclub thread) frank = mkp | ||
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xZiGGY
United Kingdom801 Posts
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Good job they removed Khaydarin! :D | ||
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pR0gR4m3R
Spain1446 Posts
Number 20 - EU - Vortix He is Lucifron´s younger brother | ||
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Yogurt
United States4258 Posts
On March 25 2011 22:43 btlyger wrote: Since the ladder season is about to be over, its the highest anyone have and will achieve for season 1. Probably will be the highest ever or close to it since this ladder season ran 3x as long as they will be running from now on. This one lasted 9 months and blizzard said the rest will be at 3 month intervals | ||
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parn
France296 Posts
On March 25 2011 22:04 RuneZerg wrote: 18 terrans in top 24 :O lol! Take care you could get warned/banned for that kind of obvious statement :O | ||
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usethis2
2164 Posts
On March 25 2011 21:59 ch33psh33p wrote: PlayXP rumors suggest MantoMan is also MarineKing, but nobody is sure as of yet. MKP possibly has 1/2/3 in world/korea. ManToMan = Guineapig | ||
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Deadlyfish
Denmark1980 Posts
On March 25 2011 23:02 parn wrote: lol! Take care you could get warned/banned for that kind of obvious statement :O It's actually not very obvious since there are 17 terrans only, afaik. MarineKing doesnt count twice | ||
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Slakkoo
Sweden1119 Posts
On March 25 2011 23:05 Deadlyfish wrote: It's actually not very obvious since there are 17 terrans only, afaik. MarineKing doesnt count twice Wait.. What? So if I make 10 accounts, all protoss and get into top ten there's 1 protoss? | ||
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Denizen[9]
United States649 Posts
On March 25 2011 23:05 Deadlyfish wrote: It's actually not very obvious since there are 17 terrans only, afaik. MarineKing doesnt count twice then its 17 out of 23. If you count the top 25, select is 25th so it would still be 18 out of 24 | ||
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parn
France296 Posts
On March 25 2011 23:05 Deadlyfish wrote: It's actually not very obvious since there are 17 terrans only, afaik. MarineKing doesnt count twice LOL, only 17 Terrans in top24. HAHAHAHAHA | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
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Deadlyfish
Denmark1980 Posts
On March 25 2011 23:08 Slakkoo wrote: Wait.. What? So if I make 10 accounts, all protoss and get into top ten there's 1 protoss? Yes then there is 1 protoss player. | ||
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dizzy101
Netherlands2066 Posts
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
On March 25 2011 23:12 dizzy101 wrote: Why not a single US player in the top 25? It can't be a difference in skill level, because US players face other US players, so should get the same # of points as EU players playing other EU players... weird I think less games are played on US server so points aren't as super high too... Just guess^^ | ||
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dizzy101
Netherlands2066 Posts
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Aerakin
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gosuRob
United States319 Posts
On March 25 2011 23:12 dizzy101 wrote: Why not a single US player in the top 25? It can't be a difference in skill level, because US players face other US players, so should get the same # of points as EU players playing other EU players... weird I bet if Select laddered more he'd be in there somewhere, he has like a 75% win rate, pretty nuts | ||
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
Where did you get that information? What I'm reading on PlayXP is that MantoMan is someone else's account (could be Guineapig's like you said, but they're on different teams though, so I don't know how likely that is), but MKP has been playing on it lately. Of course, I don't know how reliable the people who made these posts are. | ||
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CidO
United States695 Posts
On March 25 2011 22:51 MangoTango wrote: Jesus Marine King ladders a lot. Aren't there rumors of the 3rd ranked account ALSO being MKP? MKP doesn't sleep. While the rest of the prime house is sleeping, he is laddering, then when it's time to practice, he practices. That's how his marine micro is so good ^^ | ||
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Kokosaft
Germany172 Posts
its actually not top ten then either ;p top24 isn't representative for balance at all, it justs says that most people with high score play terran, not that terran gets in there for free, so don't make it a balance discussion pl0x EDIT: fixed the mass quotes mistake x) | ||
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Deleted User 61629
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parn
France296 Posts
On March 25 2011 23:23 Kokosaft wrote: its actually not top ten then either ;p top24 isn't representative for balance at all, it justs says that most people with high score play terran, not that terran gets in there for free, so don't make it a balance discussion pl0x EDIT: fixed the mass quotes mistake x) Yea, if you got 18 Terrans in top24, that means the game is balanced! Well done captain obvious ;D | ||
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Resilient
United Kingdom1431 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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dezi
Germany1536 Posts
Interesting that also the US gamers seem to favor the EU server. Why? | ||
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On March 25 2011 23:27 parn wrote: Yea, if you got 18 Terrans in top24, that means the game is balanced! Well done captain obvious ;D It doesn't necessarily mean either balanced or imbalanced. Note that the terran players have not been doing so well in recent major tournaments (IEM, GSL) and patch 1.3 just hit the servers with a very nice buff for zerg and both buff/nerfs for terran and protoss, so we'll see how that turns out. | ||
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On March 25 2011 23:32 Resilient wrote: Since last patch people with very high MMR in EU consistently get +1 point for winning games and lose up to 23 for losing games. Even to people with "equal/close" MMR. Is this true for all regions? I think so. It's probably a measure by Blizzard to reduce point inflation. | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13389 Posts
On March 25 2011 23:32 Resilient wrote: Since last patch people with very high MMR in EU consistently get +1 point for winning games and lose up to 23 for losing games. Even to people with "equal/close" MMR. Is this true for all regions? yes its true for all regions but since KR got hit with the patch last of all regions they did have more time to collect points before the +1/-20 point thing happening now. | ||
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Cartel
Canada255 Posts
On March 25 2011 22:02 Dommk wrote: White-ra was super close to that, too bad the new (bugged?) match making system absolutely crushed his chances. Just look at his match history lol, 11wins 1 point wins (his 2point wins were bonus pool lol), and everytime he lost he lost like 20 points Ya, I was watching WhiteRa's stream, and he was laughing when he got 0 points for a win.. 0!!! including the bonus pool.. 0 Nobody has every heard of that.. i feel for him.. it doesnt make any sense.. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
are you guys crazy? please, there is no single thread without this shit. Every tournament thread... everything... | ||
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Darkhallow
Finland139 Posts
On March 25 2011 23:43 Cartel wrote: Ya, I was watching WhiteRa's stream, and he was laughing when he got 0 points for a win.. 0!!! including the bonus pool.. 0 Nobody has every heard of that.. i feel for him.. it doesnt make any sense.. It's turning to same thing as in WoW arena. Top teams only get couple of points from win and lose like 20. Guess the system is kinda similar | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
On March 25 2011 23:58 Darkhallow wrote: It's turning to same thing as in WoW arena. Top teams only get couple of points from win and lose like 20. Guess the system is kinda similar Probably there to stop the endless inflation of points. Blizzard probably wants points to be a somewhat reliable indicator of a player's skill. | ||
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Kazzabiss
1006 Posts
MantoMan is Prime's shared account. The way he has the top 3 accounts is probably because he lets the bonus pool stack up on one account while playing the other, and then switch. Don't get me wrong, it's a amazing, but, his smurf account has only 900 games with 4.6k points... that's why. | ||
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daffodil
Australia109 Posts
stop fucking calling imbalance | ||
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Johnnybb
Denmark486 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
He still has a nearly unbeatable TvZ, but before it was the same in TvT, but now he loses to average T players...his vP was never good, but it was his only weakness, and now he's awful in TvP. It's seems he's better than never in TvZ but worst than before in the 2 other matchups (and he often uses silly builds in GSL) I'm one of his first hour fans, I hope he'll come back stronger then ever. At least those 2 first ladder ranks are reassuring. | ||
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Resilient
United Kingdom1431 Posts
On March 26 2011 00:03 TheCouchGuy wrote: Haha no US in top 24! Comments like this make us EU players look like bragging morons Everyone knows EU ladder is stronger than US. Just as KR is stronger than EU. There's no need to rub it in. | ||
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dakalro
Romania525 Posts
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TheRhox
Canada868 Posts
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On March 25 2011 23:58 Darkhallow wrote: It's turning to same thing as in WoW arena. Top teams only get couple of points from win and lose like 20. Guess the system is kinda similar This is likely temporary before the reset. If it becomes like wow arena and this is permanent than there would be more win trading. | ||
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goiflin
Canada1218 Posts
On March 26 2011 00:10 TheRhox wrote: The fact that there's no US in the top of the GLOBAL ladder doesn't mean anything since you wouldn't be matched up against EU or KR players on the US server. It just means top US players are either less active, have less wins, or lose more often (due to the skill brackets being closer, or whatever). Anyway, go MKP! You da man! | ||
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ChaseR
Norway1004 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12238 Posts
On March 26 2011 00:00 dukethegold wrote: Probably there to stop the endless inflation of points. Blizzard probably wants points to be a somewhat reliable indicator of a player's skill. When did the patch hit in Korea? 3/23? 3/24? Both of those accounts look like they're still getting decent points per win (+7, +8, +10) as of 3/23 and 3/24 whereas EU and US top players are getting +1 or +0. I guess the MMR of the Korean players is simply that much higher? | ||
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Schoenhole
United States88 Posts
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Stropheum
United States1124 Posts
But damn. 4600. That's sure a lot of points. I've got like 1300 to go lol. jesus | ||
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Overpowered
Czech Republic764 Posts
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Alphasquad
Austria505 Posts
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Sid(TB)
United States314 Posts
On March 26 2011 00:15 ChaseR wrote: Next seasons might be shorter like 3 months or something, so 4600 might be the highest anyone will ever get. Everyone one that list is sick thou, once GrandMaster takes effect there will be cross-region matchmaking that's going to flesh out the best of the best omg so hard :o source plz on cross region match making in grandmaster? | ||
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Whiplash
United States2928 Posts
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ZidaneTribal
United States2800 Posts
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Geovu
Estonia1344 Posts
On March 25 2011 23:34 dezi wrote: US where? :D Interesting that also the US gamers seem to favor the EU server. Why? Don't worry look again at the rankings a US guy is on there now. ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/NDAuB.gif) | ||
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ChaseR
Norway1004 Posts
On March 26 2011 00:34 Sid(TB) wrote: source plz on cross region match making in grandmaster? http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/2054862#blog This league pits each region’s top StarCraft II players against one another to determine who belongs at the top of the ladder -_- @jiabung Your right, I was just going to write about how they worded it, it's never crystal clear is it :/ @Sein Hm, but ICCUP had like players from all over the world, mostly Koreans dominating thou... | ||
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jiabung
United States720 Posts
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RivalryRedux
United States173 Posts
Average wins US Masters Protoss - 694 Terran - 621 Zerg - 714 EU Masters Protoss - 831 Terran - 738 Zerg - 833 KR Masters Protoss - 1203 Terran - 980 Zerg - 1169 | ||
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Project Psycho
United Kingdom329 Posts
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KnightOfNi
United States1508 Posts
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On March 26 2011 00:43 ChaseR wrote: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/2054862#blog -_- @jiabung Your right, I was just going to write about how they worded it, it's never crystal clear is it :/ Doesn't sound like cross-region play to me. I'm pretty sure Blizzard wouldn't do that even for grandmaster after claiming that "the current technology cannot handle cross region". | ||
Poopi
France12904 Posts
On March 26 2011 00:06 MrCon wrote: I hope marineking will stop slumping :'( He still has a nearly unbeatable TvZ, but before it was the same in TvT, but now he loses to average T players...his vP was never good, but it was his only weakness, and now he's awful in TvP. It's seems he's better than never in TvZ but worst than before in the 2 other matchups (and he often uses silly builds in GSL) I'm one of his first hour fans, I hope he'll come back stronger then ever. At least those 2 first ladder ranks are reassuring. I'm not sure that his vP has never been good : he is the guy who all-killed every protoss (except MC who wasn't here) in Gisado Race Wars, 2-1 against TesTer, HongUn, Genius, Choya and 2-0 against Squirtle. So even if it was his weakest MU, it was pretty decent, only MC defeated him in 2010. About his slump, it seems that his loss against MVP affected him pretty badly, especially in TvT :/. But it was only some BO1s, I'm confident he'll do well next season. About his TvZ with the infestor buff I don't think we'll see him use that many marines so I'm a bit worried :/. | ||
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warshop
Canada490 Posts
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crms
United States11933 Posts
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Masq
Canada1792 Posts
On March 26 2011 00:47 RivalryRedux wrote: If anyone is wondering about activity levels I went through SC2ranks and found the average # of wins for masters players (left out random) Average wins US Masters Protoss - 694 Terran - 621 Zerg - 714 EU Masters Protoss - 831 Terran - 738 Zerg - 833 KR Masters Protoss - 1203 Terran - 980 Zerg - 1169 Resorted For Race/Region: Terran KOR - 980 EU - 738 NA - 621 Zerg KOR - 1169 EU - 833 NA - 714 Protoss KOR - 1203 EU - 831 NA - 694 guess NA are lazy -_- | ||
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Roxy
Canada753 Posts
Per your list: 2 Zerg 3 Protoss 19 Terran Congrats to Marine King.. he's definitely a solid player. He must have learned how to use a second unit in order to get to top spot though!  | ||
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On March 26 2011 01:35 Roxy wrote: LOL! at Terrancraft Per your list: 2 Zerg 3 Protoss 19 Terran Congrats to Marine King.. he's definitely a solid player. He must have learned how to use a second unit in order to get to top spot though! How did you get 19 terrans? | ||
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
On March 25 2011 22:08 ch33psh33p wrote: This was done before Patch 1.3 hit korea I think. or their server isnt affected by that issue maybe? | ||
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CryMeAReaper
Denmark1135 Posts
On March 26 2011 01:35 Roxy wrote: LOL! at Terrancraft Per your list: 2 Zerg 3 Protoss 19 Terran Congrats to Marine King.. he's definitely a solid player. He must have learned how to use a second unit in order to get to top spot though! ur kidding right? he uses 3, marines, marauders and medivacs, jesus christ ignorant -_- + Show Spoiler + /sarcasm | ||
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Strivers
United States358 Posts
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Roxy
Canada753 Posts
24 - 3 - 2 = 19 Just noticed a random on the list though So disregard my post.. game is balanced | ||
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SolHeiM
Sweden1264 Posts
On March 26 2011 00:43 ChaseR wrote: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/2054862#blog -_- @jiabung Your right, I was just going to write about how they worded it, it's never crystal clear is it :/ @Sein Hm, but ICCUP had like players from all over the world, mostly Koreans dominating thou... You're not reading it right. It says the top players in their respective regions, not cross-region play. | ||
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LaMatrone
Canada24 Posts
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rsvp
United States2266 Posts
On March 26 2011 00:47 RivalryRedux wrote: If anyone is wondering about activity levels I went through SC2ranks and found the average # of wins for masters players (left out random) Average wins US Masters Protoss - 694 Terran - 621 Zerg - 714 EU Masters Protoss - 831 Terran - 738 Zerg - 833 KR Masters Protoss - 1203 Terran - 980 Zerg - 1169 Yep. Top US players either don't ladder as much (and play customs) or play on other servers. This is why there are no US players in the top of the world standings. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On March 26 2011 02:00 Anihc wrote: Yep. Top US players either don't ladder as much (and play customs) or play on other servers. This is why there are no US players in the top of the world standings. also the US servers tend to be a hell of alot more random in terms of strategies encountered, and sometimes you just lose to stuff you've never seen and never will again because you scouting him going one thing and it was actually something completely different. | ||
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SubtleArt
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zyzski
United States698 Posts
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Helios.Star
United States548 Posts
On March 25 2011 22:02 Dommk wrote: White-ra was super close to that, too bad the new (bugged?) match making system absolutely crushed his chances. Just look at his match history lol, 11wins 1 point wins (his 2point wins were bonus pool lol), and everytime he lost he lost like 20 points The other day on his stream he was getting +0 (thats actually what it said) for a win. | ||
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DivineSC
United States128 Posts
On March 25 2011 22:04 RuneZerg wrote: 18 terrans in top 24 :O 2 Zergs, 1 Random and only 4 Toss as well, Honestly not surprising, it's the easiest race to play and every game feel you "Deserved" your win or loss, so their ladder sessions can be surprisingly longer. Just my Zerg Tears opinion | ||
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On March 25 2011 22:46 eYeball wrote: I'm pretty sure MarineKingPrime doesn't plays protoss. It's a shared account in Prime house. Might be more protoss games played on the account and less Terran games. It's also possible that MKP plays protoss to learn how to counter it. He was a protoss player in BW. | ||
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rsvp
United States2266 Posts
On March 26 2011 02:05 PrinceXizor wrote: also the US servers tend to be a hell of alot more random in terms of strategies encountered, and sometimes you just lose to stuff you've never seen and never will again because you scouting him going one thing and it was actually something completely different. Uhh... no. What are you trying to say, that everyone does more coin flip builds and the skill gap is extremely small at the top? You have no basis at all for what you're suggesting. | ||
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GriMeR
United States148 Posts
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Zlasher
United States9129 Posts
On March 25 2011 22:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: O.O I don't understand how it's physically possible to play enough games to get that high on three separate accounts. Especially since I see IdrA and Tyler and other people getting +2 and +0 points for some wins, and losing 20 points for a single loss. Bonus pool allows it. That and aggressive laddering with an equally aggressive style like MKPs | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On March 26 2011 02:19 Anihc wrote: Uhh... no. What are you trying to say, that everyone does more coin flip builds and the skill gap is extremely small at the top? You have no basis at all for what you're suggesting. apart from experience no, no basis at all. but people do random stuff in the US server. it's alot less standardized than Euro or Korea or SEA. ALOT less. the only people who play super standardized are the teamed players. | ||
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Deleted User 61629
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rsvp
United States2266 Posts
On March 26 2011 02:24 PrinceXizor wrote: apart from experience no, no basis at all. but people do random stuff in the US server. it's alot less standardized than Euro or Korea or SEA. ALOT less. the only people who play super standardized are the teamed players. Maybe that's true overall, but it's not true at the top of the ladder, and it definitely doesn't explain why top NA ladderers have lower points than the rest of the world. | ||
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Slunk
Germany768 Posts
On March 26 2011 02:23 Zlasher wrote: Bonus pool allows it. That and aggressive laddering with an equally aggressive style like MKPs Why do people keep on saying that bonus pool had anything to do with anything. Every single guy on this list has received the same amount on bonus pool points. The only thing bonus pool does is fucking up rank comparisons over time and that is it. It doe not reward mass gaming (regarding how much even the laziest pro plays). | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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JustPassingBy
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Jiddra
Sweden2685 Posts
On March 26 2011 02:29 Anihc wrote: Maybe that's true overall, but it's not true at the top of the ladder, and it definitely doesn't explain why top NA ladderers have lower points than the rest of the world. Perhaps several top players in the US does what Tyler does. http://sc2ranks.com/kr/2695539/LiquidTyler | ||
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KawaiiRice
United States2914 Posts
I'm 4300 easily on europe but struggling so hard to get out of 3600 on kr... How can MKP do this >_> | ||
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Poopi
France12904 Posts
On March 26 2011 02:51 KawaiiRice wrote: 4600 on korea is... so freaking insane... I'm 4300 easily on europe but struggling so hard to get out of 3600 on kr... How can MKP do this >_> He is the terran hero now that MVP is in code A so he does have to . | ||
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Agh
United States1009 Posts
On March 25 2011 21:58 Inori wrote: What's up with US? And don't tell me everyone there just plays customs. Most everyone plays on EU for practice(ladder). Just a larger pool of better players to get matched against. (probably 50% of eu server at top mmr have a game plan that revolves around taking a 3rd, where NA is probably like 20%) | ||
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gammAwolfa
Finland213 Posts
On March 25 2011 21:56 IPS.Mardow. wrote: Is Happy the Happy from WC3? (I think from Russia?) Yes happy the micro master from WC3 | ||
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pureability
United States137 Posts
On March 26 2011 02:55 Agh wrote: Most everyone plays on EU for practice(ladder). Just a larger pool of better players to get matched against. (probably 50% of eu server at top mmr have a game plan that revolves around taking a 3rd, where NA is probably like 20%) i find it hilarious how people can make up such bullshit reasons and statistics for why they feel as they do. Hey guys, the reason NA is played the least is because top euros take a 4th base 10% of the time and top na take a 4th base 20% of the time, therefore the euros are afraid of the superior macro of na. | ||
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dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
On March 26 2011 02:59 pureability wrote: i find it hilarious how people can make up such bullshit reasons and statistics for why they feel as they do. Hey guys, the reason NA is played the least is because top euros take a 4th base 10% of the time and top na take a 4th base 20% of the time, therefore the euros are afraid of the superior macro of na. While I don't agree with either posts, EU has more top players so it's good that US players play on the European server. At least they can all practice together then. | ||
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Tracedragon
United States948 Posts
As it should be... | ||
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
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SidianTheBard
United States2474 Posts
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kagemucha
United States326 Posts
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Poopi
France12904 Posts
then power rax if the first attempt was denied. So I guess he has a lot of short games on his main account. | ||
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On March 26 2011 03:52 Treadmill wrote: I refuse to believe that MKP is all top three. Not out of lack of skill, but that would make for something like 6000 games played, and almost half off-race. And I don't see MKP as the type of player to just spam short, cheesy games on the ladder. You dont? | ||
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e4e5nf3
Canada599 Posts
On March 26 2011 00:00 dukethegold wrote: Probably there to stop the endless inflation of points. Blizzard probably wants points to be a somewhat reliable indicator of a player's skill. Then get rid of the bonus pool and/or just show the real mmr to begin with. | ||
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Like a Boss
502 Posts
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
On March 26 2011 02:46 JustPassingBy wrote: See? Korea is just sick, they got so many people up in the Top 20, despite so few players, it has like half the players NA has: Europe: 770,391, Korea: 479,369, NA: 997,398. point totals aren't really that indicative of anything except games played vs. people at your or close to your level, within your pool, since you don't play against people in other ladder divisions-- they're really only meaningful within the division itself, not across divisions. | ||
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TylerDurden275
Canada86 Posts
On March 25 2011 23:00 Yogurt wrote: Probably will be the highest ever or close to it since this ladder season ran 3x as long as they will be running from now on. This one lasted 9 months and blizzard said the rest will be at 3 month intervals do you have a link to where blizzard said they will be 3 month intervals? that seems very short. i dont think that can be true.. | ||
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abominable
101 Posts
such a legend... i was giggling the other day when he was totally dominating qxc on his stream while simultaneously commentating his own play in english (not his native language) like he was playing vs a bronze leaguer. i love qxc, but man whitera is a fiendish professional. | ||
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abominable
101 Posts
On March 25 2011 22:19 Welmu wrote: Woah pretty Terran heavy... 18 in top 24 :o this is expected. most terran wins will be games under 10 minutes long... most protoss/zerg games last a lot longer than that. the average game length for a high masters zerg/protoss win is more like 25 minutes. more wins = higher on ladder. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On March 25 2011 21:58 Inori wrote: What's up with US? And don't tell me everyone there just plays customs. Select is a US player if you didn't know. | ||
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tosog
64 Posts
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Trajan98
Canada203 Posts
On March 25 2011 22:54 raga4ka wrote: Kas is like the Flash of the foreign scene so many games and really good record . Not to mention he is doing really well in EU tournies . How does having a good ladder record and doing well in a few tournies make u like Flash? I don't see your logic here. Until the guy crushes everyone in the world easily and wins everything in one year then there is no comparison. | ||
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chenchen
United States1136 Posts
On March 26 2011 04:29 tosog wrote: All this list shows is that it's significantly harder to get points on the U.S. ladder, thus the hardest region. Lol, NA is the weakest out of the three major servers in terms of skill. Top NA players are just less active/less dominant. | ||
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CryMeAReaper
Denmark1135 Posts
On March 26 2011 04:32 Trajan98 wrote: How does having a good ladder record and doing well in a few tournies make u like Flash? I don't see your logic here. Until the guy crushes everyone in the world easily and wins everything in one year then there is no comparison. few? that guy has won so much shit u wont believe it T_T not saying u compare him to flash tho:D | ||
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blotrees
United States24 Posts
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SC Trickster
Denmark100 Posts
On March 26 2011 04:29 tosog wrote: All this list shows is that it's significantly harder to get points on the U.S. ladder, thus the hardest region. I've yet to see a progamer that has experience on the US and EU/KR servers say that the US server had better skilled players overall than either the EU or KR servers. | ||
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abominable
101 Posts
On March 26 2011 04:59 SC Trickster wrote: I've yet to see a progamer that has experience on the US and EU/KR servers say that the US server had better skilled players overall than either the EU or KR servers. the list actually shows that europe and korean players have more attractive girlfriends. the logic is that they play better, so they must be more confident - and nothing makes you more confident than having a stunning bird. | ||
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dunc
Netherlands1105 Posts
On March 26 2011 04:44 blotrees wrote: amazing at how many games MKP has won at a high level. It rattles my mind to think of how many marines he must have made. O.o MarineKing and MarineQueen, the powercouple of sc2 + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=186955 | ||
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