• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:30
CEST 18:30
KST 01:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 226ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon415.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation0
StarCraft 2
General
Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 29 GSL CK #5 Race War RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch Data needed Snow On New ASL S22 Map, Zerg Nerf
Tourneys
CSLAN 4 is Coming! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6642 users

World rank 3-25: first 4600-point player - Page 4

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
March 25 2011 14:37 GMT
#61
On March 25 2011 23:32 Resilient wrote:
Since last patch people with very high MMR in EU consistently get +1 point for winning games and lose up to 23 for losing games. Even to people with "equal/close" MMR. Is this true for all regions?


I think so. It's probably a measure by Blizzard to reduce point inflation.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13410 Posts
March 25 2011 14:39 GMT
#62
On March 25 2011 23:32 Resilient wrote:
Since last patch people with very high MMR in EU consistently get +1 point for winning games and lose up to 23 for losing games. Even to people with "equal/close" MMR. Is this true for all regions?


yes its true for all regions but since KR got hit with the patch last of all regions they did have more time to collect points before the +1/-20 point thing happening now.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Cartel
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada255 Posts
March 25 2011 14:43 GMT
#63
On March 25 2011 22:02 Dommk wrote:
White-ra was super close to that, too bad the new (bugged?) match making system absolutely crushed his chances.

Just look at his match history lol, 11wins 1 point wins (his 2point wins were bonus pool lol), and everytime he lost he lost like 20 points


Ya, I was watching WhiteRa's stream, and he was laughing when he got 0 points for a win.. 0!!! including the bonus pool.. 0

Nobody has every heard of that.. i feel for him.. it doesnt make any sense..
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
March 25 2011 14:44 GMT
#64
Lol, a balance discussion based on ladderstats :D

are you guys crazy? please, there is no single thread without this shit.
Every tournament thread... everything...
Darkhallow
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland139 Posts
March 25 2011 14:58 GMT
#65
On March 25 2011 23:43 Cartel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 22:02 Dommk wrote:
White-ra was super close to that, too bad the new (bugged?) match making system absolutely crushed his chances.

Just look at his match history lol, 11wins 1 point wins (his 2point wins were bonus pool lol), and everytime he lost he lost like 20 points


Ya, I was watching WhiteRa's stream, and he was laughing when he got 0 points for a win.. 0!!! including the bonus pool.. 0

Nobody has every heard of that.. i feel for him.. it doesnt make any sense..


It's turning to same thing as in WoW arena. Top teams only get couple of points from win and lose like 20. Guess the system is kinda similar
The game is not about having fun; it is about stopping as many other people as you can from having fun. That’s the only thing that really matters. As well as being pro.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
March 25 2011 15:00 GMT
#66
On March 25 2011 23:58 Darkhallow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 23:43 Cartel wrote:
On March 25 2011 22:02 Dommk wrote:
White-ra was super close to that, too bad the new (bugged?) match making system absolutely crushed his chances.

Just look at his match history lol, 11wins 1 point wins (his 2point wins were bonus pool lol), and everytime he lost he lost like 20 points


Ya, I was watching WhiteRa's stream, and he was laughing when he got 0 points for a win.. 0!!! including the bonus pool.. 0

Nobody has every heard of that.. i feel for him.. it doesnt make any sense..


It's turning to same thing as in WoW arena. Top teams only get couple of points from win and lose like 20. Guess the system is kinda similar


Probably there to stop the endless inflation of points.

Blizzard probably wants points to be a somewhat reliable indicator of a player's skill.
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-25 15:04:53
March 25 2011 15:02 GMT
#67
MKP is 2, and his Smurf is 1

MantoMan is Prime's shared account.

The way he has the top 3 accounts is probably because he lets the bonus pool stack up on one account while playing the other, and then switch. Don't get me wrong, it's a amazing, but, his smurf account has only 900 games with 4.6k points... that's why.
ALL ABOARD THE INTERNET BANDWAGON
daffodil
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia109 Posts
March 25 2011 15:03 GMT
#68
ladder format caters nicely to a terran arsenal
stop fucking calling imbalance
Johnnybb
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark486 Posts
March 25 2011 15:03 GMT
#69
Haha no US in top 24!
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
March 25 2011 15:06 GMT
#70
I hope marineking will stop slumping :'(
He still has a nearly unbeatable TvZ, but before it was the same in TvT, but now he loses to average T players...his vP was never good, but it was his only weakness, and now he's awful in TvP.
It's seems he's better than never in TvZ but worst than before in the 2 other matchups (and he often uses silly builds in GSL)
I'm one of his first hour fans, I hope he'll come back stronger then ever. At least those 2 first ladder ranks are reassuring.
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
March 25 2011 15:07 GMT
#71
On March 26 2011 00:03 TheCouchGuy wrote:
Haha no US in top 24!


Comments like this make us EU players look like bragging morons Everyone knows EU ladder is stronger than US. Just as KR is stronger than EU. There's no need to rub it in.
dakalro
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania525 Posts
March 25 2011 15:08 GMT
#72
This is just points ranking. Last I heard this had nothing to do with balance. It's not exactly MMR based.
TheRhox
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada868 Posts
March 25 2011 15:10 GMT
#73
The fact that there's no US in the top of the GLOBAL ladder doesn't mean anything since you wouldn't be matched up against EU or KR players on the US server.
Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
March 25 2011 15:11 GMT
#74
On March 25 2011 23:58 Darkhallow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 23:43 Cartel wrote:
On March 25 2011 22:02 Dommk wrote:
White-ra was super close to that, too bad the new (bugged?) match making system absolutely crushed his chances.

Just look at his match history lol, 11wins 1 point wins (his 2point wins were bonus pool lol), and everytime he lost he lost like 20 points


Ya, I was watching WhiteRa's stream, and he was laughing when he got 0 points for a win.. 0!!! including the bonus pool.. 0

Nobody has every heard of that.. i feel for him.. it doesnt make any sense..


It's turning to same thing as in WoW arena. Top teams only get couple of points from win and lose like 20. Guess the system is kinda similar


This is likely temporary before the reset. If it becomes like wow arena and this is permanent than there would be more win trading.
There's no S in KT. :P
goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
March 25 2011 15:14 GMT
#75
On March 26 2011 00:10 TheRhox wrote:
The fact that there's no US in the top of the GLOBAL ladder doesn't mean anything since you wouldn't be matched up against EU or KR players on the US server.


It just means top US players are either less active, have less wins, or lose more often (due to the skill brackets being closer, or whatever).

Anyway, go MKP! You da man!
ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-25 15:50:29
March 25 2011 15:15 GMT
#76
Next seasons might be shorter like 3 months or something, so 4600 might be the highest anyone will ever get. Everyone on that list is sick thou, once GrandMaster takes effect the matchmaking is going to flesh out the best of the best omg so hard :o
Life is not Fucking Fair and Society is not Fucking Logical - "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
March 25 2011 15:19 GMT
#77
On March 26 2011 00:00 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 23:58 Darkhallow wrote:
On March 25 2011 23:43 Cartel wrote:
On March 25 2011 22:02 Dommk wrote:
White-ra was super close to that, too bad the new (bugged?) match making system absolutely crushed his chances.

Just look at his match history lol, 11wins 1 point wins (his 2point wins were bonus pool lol), and everytime he lost he lost like 20 points


Ya, I was watching WhiteRa's stream, and he was laughing when he got 0 points for a win.. 0!!! including the bonus pool.. 0

Nobody has every heard of that.. i feel for him.. it doesnt make any sense..


It's turning to same thing as in WoW arena. Top teams only get couple of points from win and lose like 20. Guess the system is kinda similar


Probably there to stop the endless inflation of points.

Blizzard probably wants points to be a somewhat reliable indicator of a player's skill.


When did the patch hit in Korea? 3/23? 3/24? Both of those accounts look like they're still getting decent points per win (+7, +8, +10) as of 3/23 and 3/24 whereas EU and US top players are getting +1 or +0. I guess the MMR of the Korean players is simply that much higher?
Moderator
Schoenhole
Profile Joined March 2011
United States88 Posts
March 25 2011 15:22 GMT
#78
On HuK's stream 2 weeks ago, he played ManToMan a number of times. MTM said it was a shared practice account used by a few people. (It was a terran player using mainly marines during the stream) Correct me if I don't remember correctly, but I'm sure I do.
(╮°-°)╮︵┳━┳ tables don't like to be flipped
Stropheum
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1124 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-25 15:29:21
March 25 2011 15:28 GMT
#79
I love how 7.33 out of the top 10 players are Terran.
But damn. 4600. That's sure a lot of points. I've got like 1300 to go lol. jesus
Overpowered
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic764 Posts
March 25 2011 15:31 GMT
#80
Nerchio is the man! I cant imagine how somebody playing random can be so high on ladder.
Just another gold Protoss...
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 16h 30m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Serral 2773
RushiSC 42
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3772
Jaedong 2168
Shuttle 2008
Mini 596
Soma 528
EffOrt 484
Snow 241
Larva 233
BeSt 216
actioN 200
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 174
Rush 129
ggaemo 120
Dewaltoss 119
Mong 99
hero 85
Free 53
Hyun 51
sorry 39
Movie 34
Shine 27
scan(afreeca) 24
HiyA 20
Sharp 18
zelot 14
Rock 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
Yoon 13
Terrorterran 12
Bale 10
Purpose 8
Dota 2
Gorgc8534
qojqva1356
Dendi822
Counter-Strike
x6flipin886
fl0m761
edward437
byalli433
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King105
Other Games
FrodaN1215
hiko800
DeMusliM441
Hui .225
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick33149
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• mYiSmile119
• poizon28 17
• Reevou 3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV225
League of Legends
• Nemesis3620
• TFBlade929
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
16h 30m
CrankTV Team League
18h 30m
OSC
1d
Replay Cast
1d 7h
Replay Cast
1d 16h
CrankTV Team League
1d 18h
OSC
1d 20h
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Serral vs Bunny
ByuN vs GgMaChine
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Snow vs Jaedong
YSC vs hero
RSL Revival
3 days
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
GSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.