EPTGSL - koreans only
EUSL - europeans only
NASL - north american only
with almost same prize money and then inviting the top 10 of each tour to a huge tournament.
but thats not possible i guess :/
NASL: Koreans? Top Koreans? - Page 8
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DiaBoLuS
Germany1638 Posts
GSL - koreans only EUSL - europeans only NASL - north american only with almost same prize money and then inviting the top 10 of each tour to a huge tournament. but thats not possible i guess :/ | ||
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ShyRamen
United States322 Posts
that's the food chain. the Jinro has spoken. I agree with him. I voted for "invite few of the very top ones" | ||
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TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
On March 16 2011 07:12 zeru wrote: In my opinion Better players=better games=better entertainment. Would love to see lots of koreans. Ok, lets say what you say is true, in some cases it is (MC BoxeR NaDa), but there are better players, (getting farther in GSL) that just cheese, *coughs* BitByBit *coughs* and thats not having a good game, like Day9 once talked about how he hates waking up at 3 am to watch bunker rush after bunker rush. In many cases better players (koreans) does not mean better entertainment. Sorry for double post but, I didn't see that post, just a few minutes ago. | ||
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space_yes
United States548 Posts
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On March 16 2011 07:17 DiaBoLuS wrote: The best thing would be GSL - koreans only EUSL - europeans only NASL - north american only with almost same prize money and then inviting the top 10 of each tour to a huge tournament. but thats not possible i guess :/ I think this would be cool too, but we're not there yet. | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On March 16 2011 07:14 adeezy wrote: Rather watch is thus based on subjective evidence rather than actual content. If you slapped korean level games such as July mutalisk harass but you had IdrA playing it? You'd be all over it even more? That's not fair to the scene or the players in it. Personally as a spectator I'm color blind. I don't care who is playing as long as I am watching interesting games, it just happens that 90% of those are korean pro amtches. It's not like he's unique case. I don't care at all about the World Cup finals in football (soccer for you Americans), but I'll watch a very mediocre game played by Sweden and actually enjoy watching it. Same in the GSL for me, not one moment throughout season 1-4 had my heart pumping as much as TLO v. Hyperdub, Jinro v. Idra or Jinro v. MC series. You could argue that there were games with more skill in them but hell, doesn't mean everyone will enjoy them as much. You might not care about who's playing, but a lot of people do. | ||
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A3iL3r0n
United States2196 Posts
Short-term, it will reduce the tournament's prestige. Long-term, I think it could be the right move. At least part of the reason Koreans are so far ahead is that they have sponsorships which enable them to game as a profession (duh). This is the huge disadvantage of foreigners (ofc). What if all the best US/EU players could live in their own country, speak their own language, discuss strategy with other top players and ladder all day? It's not insane to think that US/EU could produce some dominant players of our own. We need those sponsorship dollars. Will promoting a US/EU player as the "best" be able sell more product? I don't know. + Show Spoiler + Why can't the NASL have exclusive player contracts and create a league? Where your players don't play in GSL, and the Korean players would have to agree to play exclusively for NASL. That way you're avoiding direct comparison, and you have a stable base of players who fans can follow year-in and year-out. I'm sure doing something like this would be complicated and more expensive, but seems like a good idea. | ||
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Raisauce
Canada864 Posts
btw, i'm in class and extremely tired. so mind my grammar! | ||
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adeezy
United States1428 Posts
On March 16 2011 07:18 TemplarCo. wrote: Ok, lets say what you say is true, in some cases it is (MC BoxeR NaDa), but there are better players, (getting farther in GSL) that just cheese, *coughs* BitByBit *coughs* and thats not having a good game, like Day9 once talked about how he hates waking up at 3 am to watch bunker rush after bunker rush. In many cases better players (koreans) does not mean better entertainment. Sorry for double post but, I didn't see that post, just a few minutes ago. To the post above me.... I get what you're saying but a large reason you like to watch IdrA or tyler is because we can identify witht hem. They post on TL, they participate in SoTG so it's nice to see them play. That shouldn't make you not want to watch other games because of bias >.> To be fair bitbybit isn't around really and neither is the cheesy terran early rushes, GSL has upped the ante in entertainment this season | ||
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guluru
United States83 Posts
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
Though at start it might seem Koreans might rule the scene, i am confident it won't come that far. There are enough dedicated and insanely skilled players outside of Korea that given the opportunity will mass games and practice their asses off to be on the same level. You'll never get the same amount of high skilled tournament with hopefully a long live span without. I mean, you cant hold a world championship football and not invite spain because they are european and world champion (bad sports metaphor, change it in what you like) and might be boring for the other competitors..... I love watching games of the highest level, do not care where the players are from. | ||
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Rokk
United States425 Posts
On March 16 2011 07:16 Pokebunny wrote: I want to see more people, not just the top 16 in the world being able to make anything close to an average living. Small steps dude. Let's work on developing a bigger tournament and community here first, then we can worry about everyone else after. Hopefully with the longer tournament, we can create more incentive for sponsors to sponsor the lesser known teams, because they'll still be playing a ton of matches every week. | ||
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0neder
United States3733 Posts
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Holdinga
Bulgaria300 Posts
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JoxxOr
Sweden1502 Posts
On March 16 2011 07:17 DiaBoLuS wrote: The best thing would be GSL - koreans only EUSL - europeans only NASL - north american only with almost same prize money and then inviting the top 10 of each tour to a huge tournament. but thats not possible i guess :/ Could you try to pronounce EUSL? :D That would be a fucked up name :=) | ||
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Benjef
United Kingdom6921 Posts
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pAzand
Sweden539 Posts
For every win a foreigner earns against a Korean, the "fear" for them is going to go away and the skill cap will get smaller, not wider as would be the case if we alienated us from the koreans. If we want to compete with them we have to do just that, compete with them. How can this even be an issue? My proposal is something like this: A minimum of ~15 North-, Central- & South Americans in EVERY NASL season. A minimum of ~15 Euros. A minimum of 5 Koreans (5 invites this season, and Koreans can qualify like everybody else the next season and well, they won't fall down probably) If we want the NASL to continue after the first 3 seasons we need the very best players the West got to offer and a group och Koreans so we know if the skillcap is growing, if that's the case, then we need to get more team houses in Korea. It's a golden opportunity, don't throw it away just cause some people don't like to face reality (maybe Koreans will always be better or that they themself doesn't really deserve a spot in the league) | ||
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Lobo2me
Norway1213 Posts
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
I don't see why it has restrict entry to only North Americans. The whole point of the NASL was for a Star League in our own backyard where we don't have to wake up at 5 in the morning just to watch. | ||
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