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On March 16 2011 11:48 bLuR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 11:47 Consolidate wrote:On March 16 2011 11:46 bLuR wrote:On March 16 2011 11:44 MadCatZ wrote:On March 16 2011 11:43 bLuR wrote:On March 16 2011 11:42 MadCatZ wrote:On March 16 2011 06:45 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Its retarded. Why do you think any of the non-koreans that went to GSL, went to GSL for? For the same fucking reason Koreans want to play NASL. Note that this poll assumes that the skill level of top Code A Koreans is about the same as the skill of the top foreigners, which we can assume to be true from IEM. While its not that untrue, how can we assume that from IEM when it was won by 3 players who all f.ailed round 1 of Code A? I mean, that wouldnt really qualify as top code A level to me evidence wise NASL=North American GSL=Global The name is SO misleading to be honest not like they call it KSL. They couldve named it WSL-western since its a focus on western E-sports The GSL isn't global its only for people in Korea. GSL stands for GLOBAL starcraft 2 league HERP derp Thats why the name of the league contradicts its rules... HERP DERP I wasn't aware there were rules disallowing foreigners from competing. The rule is that you have to be in korea to play? How difficult is that to understand
Yeah, and people from all parts of the world are allowed to participate.
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On March 16 2011 11:41 bLuR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 11:39 Baarn wrote:On March 16 2011 11:38 bLuR wrote:
I think the tournament should just be expanded, why only 50 players? If you read the last couple pages of the official thread you'd see season 2 will be expanded by 1000 for the qualifier. How does having a 1000 person qualifier tournament mean the tournament is bigger? Im saying they could invite 100 players for season 1 have just as an exciting tournament, cast the matches from the ro50 on, and make everyone happy.
For the prize pool NASL has I reckon 250 people would be ideal considering MLG has unlimited for the online qualifier so you can seed in their tournaments. Up to NASL though.
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On March 16 2011 11:47 bLuR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 11:45 Zeke50100 wrote:On March 16 2011 11:43 bLuR wrote:On March 16 2011 11:42 MadCatZ wrote:On March 16 2011 06:45 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Its retarded. Why do you think any of the non-koreans that went to GSL, went to GSL for? For the same fucking reason Koreans want to play NASL. Note that this poll assumes that the skill level of top Code A Koreans is about the same as the skill of the top foreigners, which we can assume to be true from IEM. While its not that untrue, how can we assume that from IEM when it was won by 3 players who all f.ailed round 1 of Code A? I mean, that wouldnt really qualify as top code A level to me evidence wise NASL=North American GSL=Global The name is SO misleading to be honest not like they call it KSL. They couldve named it WSL-western since its a focus on western E-sports The GSL isn't global its only for people in Korea. And you need to come to Los Angeles to play the finals of the NASL. Your point? That if people could play the GSL online until Ro16 every foreigner would be playing it? Think --> Post
You ignore the fact that you need to be in the United States at some point if you want to participate in the NASL without dropping out, which is exactly what the GSL does. If you don't make a commitment to travel, you cannot and should not even attempt to qualify for EITHER tournament.
Think --> Think again --> Don't post.
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On March 16 2011 11:46 bLuR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 11:44 MadCatZ wrote:On March 16 2011 11:43 bLuR wrote:On March 16 2011 11:42 MadCatZ wrote:On March 16 2011 06:45 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Its retarded. Why do you think any of the non-koreans that went to GSL, went to GSL for? For the same fucking reason Koreans want to play NASL. Note that this poll assumes that the skill level of top Code A Koreans is about the same as the skill of the top foreigners, which we can assume to be true from IEM. While its not that untrue, how can we assume that from IEM when it was won by 3 players who all f.ailed round 1 of Code A? I mean, that wouldnt really qualify as top code A level to me evidence wise NASL=North American GSL=Global The name is SO misleading to be honest not like they call it KSL. They couldve named it WSL-western since its a focus on western E-sports The GSL isn't global its only for people in Korea. GSL stands for GLOBAL starcraft 2 league HERP derp Thats why the name of the league contradicts its rules... HERP DERP
Everyone can try out for GSL, therefore it's global. Is it only in Korea? yeah, because GOM is a Korean company and you can't fly everywhere around the world. The fact that you can be from anywhere in the world and prove you're the best makes it global.
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i dont think youre getting it
they call it NASL but theyre letting everyone from the world participate.
doest sound right
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Good effort, motbob, but I think this just emphasizes the rule of creating supply brings about the demand. Adding lanes on a highway only inivtes more traffic.
Nuke this! I don't see the value beyond [bob's] initial post (after the OP) in this thread!
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On March 16 2011 11:48 bLuR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 11:47 Consolidate wrote:On March 16 2011 11:46 bLuR wrote:On March 16 2011 11:44 MadCatZ wrote:On March 16 2011 11:43 bLuR wrote:On March 16 2011 11:42 MadCatZ wrote:On March 16 2011 06:45 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Its retarded. Why do you think any of the non-koreans that went to GSL, went to GSL for? For the same fucking reason Koreans want to play NASL. Note that this poll assumes that the skill level of top Code A Koreans is about the same as the skill of the top foreigners, which we can assume to be true from IEM. While its not that untrue, how can we assume that from IEM when it was won by 3 players who all f.ailed round 1 of Code A? I mean, that wouldnt really qualify as top code A level to me evidence wise NASL=North American GSL=Global The name is SO misleading to be honest not like they call it KSL. They couldve named it WSL-western since its a focus on western E-sports The GSL isn't global its only for people in Korea. GSL stands for GLOBAL starcraft 2 league HERP derp Thats why the name of the league contradicts its rules... HERP DERP I wasn't aware there were rules disallowing foreigners from competing. The rule is that you have to be in korea to play? How difficult is that to understand
Thankfully NASL won't be like the GSL and Koreans and Europeans can also compete in the tournament 
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On March 16 2011 11:49 LegendaryZ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 11:43 bLuR wrote:On March 16 2011 11:42 MadCatZ wrote:On March 16 2011 06:45 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Its retarded. Why do you think any of the non-koreans that went to GSL, went to GSL for? For the same fucking reason Koreans want to play NASL. Note that this poll assumes that the skill level of top Code A Koreans is about the same as the skill of the top foreigners, which we can assume to be true from IEM. While its not that untrue, how can we assume that from IEM when it was won by 3 players who all f.ailed round 1 of Code A? I mean, that wouldnt really qualify as top code A level to me evidence wise NASL=North American GSL=Global The name is SO misleading to be honest not like they call it KSL. They couldve named it WSL-western since its a focus on western E-sports The GSL isn't global its only for people in Korea. This is a dumb argument that's used over and over again. The tournament is physically held in Korea, but players from all over the world are permitted to come and compete at will. Any notable player would be able to find some sort of income or sponsorship to travel to Korea if they wanted and many have and failed. The GSL as it stands is the international proving grounds for SC2. If you want to play against the best in the world, that's where people go.
NASL is an invitational.. + You think its easy for foreigners to just pack up and go to korea?
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On March 16 2011 11:48 bLuR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 11:47 Consolidate wrote:On March 16 2011 11:46 bLuR wrote:On March 16 2011 11:44 MadCatZ wrote:On March 16 2011 11:43 bLuR wrote:On March 16 2011 11:42 MadCatZ wrote:On March 16 2011 06:45 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Its retarded. Why do you think any of the non-koreans that went to GSL, went to GSL for? For the same fucking reason Koreans want to play NASL. Note that this poll assumes that the skill level of top Code A Koreans is about the same as the skill of the top foreigners, which we can assume to be true from IEM. While its not that untrue, how can we assume that from IEM when it was won by 3 players who all f.ailed round 1 of Code A? I mean, that wouldnt really qualify as top code A level to me evidence wise NASL=North American GSL=Global The name is SO misleading to be honest not like they call it KSL. They couldve named it WSL-western since its a focus on western E-sports The GSL isn't global its only for people in Korea. GSL stands for GLOBAL starcraft 2 league HERP derp Thats why the name of the league contradicts its rules... HERP DERP I wasn't aware there were rules disallowing foreigners from competing. The rule is that you have to be in korea to play? How difficult is that to understand
How else do you have a serious competition if you're not bringing the players to the same physical venue to play? Online tournaments are laughable due to the number of variables that are out of the organizers' control.
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On March 16 2011 11:50 Rokusha wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 11:48 bLuR wrote:On March 16 2011 11:47 Consolidate wrote:On March 16 2011 11:46 bLuR wrote:On March 16 2011 11:44 MadCatZ wrote:On March 16 2011 11:43 bLuR wrote:On March 16 2011 11:42 MadCatZ wrote:On March 16 2011 06:45 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Its retarded. Why do you think any of the non-koreans that went to GSL, went to GSL for? For the same fucking reason Koreans want to play NASL. Note that this poll assumes that the skill level of top Code A Koreans is about the same as the skill of the top foreigners, which we can assume to be true from IEM. While its not that untrue, how can we assume that from IEM when it was won by 3 players who all f.ailed round 1 of Code A? I mean, that wouldnt really qualify as top code A level to me evidence wise NASL=North American GSL=Global The name is SO misleading to be honest not like they call it KSL. They couldve named it WSL-western since its a focus on western E-sports The GSL isn't global its only for people in Korea. GSL stands for GLOBAL starcraft 2 league HERP derp Thats why the name of the league contradicts its rules... HERP DERP I wasn't aware there were rules disallowing foreigners from competing. The rule is that you have to be in korea to play? How difficult is that to understand Thankfully NASL won't be like the GSL and Koreans and Europeans can also compete in the tournament
your statement makes no sense
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On March 16 2011 11:51 bLuR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 11:49 LegendaryZ wrote:On March 16 2011 11:43 bLuR wrote:On March 16 2011 11:42 MadCatZ wrote:On March 16 2011 06:45 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Its retarded. Why do you think any of the non-koreans that went to GSL, went to GSL for? For the same fucking reason Koreans want to play NASL. Note that this poll assumes that the skill level of top Code A Koreans is about the same as the skill of the top foreigners, which we can assume to be true from IEM. While its not that untrue, how can we assume that from IEM when it was won by 3 players who all f.ailed round 1 of Code A? I mean, that wouldnt really qualify as top code A level to me evidence wise NASL=North American GSL=Global The name is SO misleading to be honest not like they call it KSL. They couldve named it WSL-western since its a focus on western E-sports The GSL isn't global its only for people in Korea. This is a dumb argument that's used over and over again. The tournament is physically held in Korea, but players from all over the world are permitted to come and compete at will. Any notable player would be able to find some sort of income or sponsorship to travel to Korea if they wanted and many have and failed. The GSL as it stands is the international proving grounds for SC2. If you want to play against the best in the world, that's where people go. NASL is an invitational.. + You think its easy for foreigners to just pack up and go to korea?
Question for you just because i'm personally curious. What do you think of Team Liquid members in Korea participating in NASL? Haypro, ret. (what if it included huk and jinro as well?) How about moonglade? foreigners who live in korea and participate in the gsl are essentially the same as korean sc2 players other than the whole genetics thing.
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Everyone will have their own opinions i'm realizing how stupid it is to argue about it, most people have no idea what they are talking about.
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On March 16 2011 11:47 bLuR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 11:45 Zeke50100 wrote:On March 16 2011 11:43 bLuR wrote:On March 16 2011 11:42 MadCatZ wrote:On March 16 2011 06:45 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Its retarded. Why do you think any of the non-koreans that went to GSL, went to GSL for? For the same fucking reason Koreans want to play NASL. Note that this poll assumes that the skill level of top Code A Koreans is about the same as the skill of the top foreigners, which we can assume to be true from IEM. While its not that untrue, how can we assume that from IEM when it was won by 3 players who all f.ailed round 1 of Code A? I mean, that wouldnt really qualify as top code A level to me evidence wise NASL=North American GSL=Global The name is SO misleading to be honest not like they call it KSL. They couldve named it WSL-western since its a focus on western E-sports The GSL isn't global its only for people in Korea. And you need to come to Los Angeles to play the finals of the NASL. Your point? That if people could play the GSL online until Ro16 every foreigner would be playing it? Think --> Post
GSL wouldn't grow AT ALL in Korea if it were an online tournament. Do you think it can compete with the likes of BW tourneys if it were an online tourney until Ro16? And that Ro16 is what, going to last a weekend?
Korea already has a very nice infrastructure for E-sports. Why should they make it online when they can already produce the tournament with high production value and plenty of top players available to participate in?
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On March 16 2011 11:53 bLuR wrote:
Everyone will have their own opinions i'm realizing how stupid it is to argue about it, most people have no idea what they are talking about.
and thats why the entire poll is a farce.
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On March 16 2011 11:53 kaileah wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 11:51 bLuR wrote:On March 16 2011 11:49 LegendaryZ wrote:On March 16 2011 11:43 bLuR wrote:On March 16 2011 11:42 MadCatZ wrote:On March 16 2011 06:45 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Its retarded. Why do you think any of the non-koreans that went to GSL, went to GSL for? For the same fucking reason Koreans want to play NASL. Note that this poll assumes that the skill level of top Code A Koreans is about the same as the skill of the top foreigners, which we can assume to be true from IEM. While its not that untrue, how can we assume that from IEM when it was won by 3 players who all f.ailed round 1 of Code A? I mean, that wouldnt really qualify as top code A level to me evidence wise NASL=North American GSL=Global The name is SO misleading to be honest not like they call it KSL. They couldve named it WSL-western since its a focus on western E-sports The GSL isn't global its only for people in Korea. This is a dumb argument that's used over and over again. The tournament is physically held in Korea, but players from all over the world are permitted to come and compete at will. Any notable player would be able to find some sort of income or sponsorship to travel to Korea if they wanted and many have and failed. The GSL as it stands is the international proving grounds for SC2. If you want to play against the best in the world, that's where people go. NASL is an invitational.. + You think its easy for foreigners to just pack up and go to korea? Question for you just because i'm personally curious. What do you think of Team Liquid members in Korea participating in NASL? Haypro, ret. (what if it included huk and jinro as well?) How about moonglade? foreigners who live in korea and participate in the gsl are essentially the same as korean sc2 players other than the whole genetics thing.
the gsl gives 4 foreigner invites, the NASL should do the same with respect to the amount of players in the nasl
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On March 16 2011 11:52 MadCatZ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 11:50 Rokusha wrote:On March 16 2011 11:48 bLuR wrote:On March 16 2011 11:47 Consolidate wrote:On March 16 2011 11:46 bLuR wrote:On March 16 2011 11:44 MadCatZ wrote:On March 16 2011 11:43 bLuR wrote:On March 16 2011 11:42 MadCatZ wrote:On March 16 2011 06:45 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Its retarded. Why do you think any of the non-koreans that went to GSL, went to GSL for? For the same fucking reason Koreans want to play NASL. Note that this poll assumes that the skill level of top Code A Koreans is about the same as the skill of the top foreigners, which we can assume to be true from IEM. While its not that untrue, how can we assume that from IEM when it was won by 3 players who all f.ailed round 1 of Code A? I mean, that wouldnt really qualify as top code A level to me evidence wise NASL=North American GSL=Global The name is SO misleading to be honest not like they call it KSL. They couldve named it WSL-western since its a focus on western E-sports The GSL isn't global its only for people in Korea. GSL stands for GLOBAL starcraft 2 league HERP derp Thats why the name of the league contradicts its rules... HERP DERP I wasn't aware there were rules disallowing foreigners from competing. The rule is that you have to be in korea to play? How difficult is that to understand Thankfully NASL won't be like the GSL and Koreans and Europeans can also compete in the tournament your statement makes no sense
 my humor is subtle to the point of it making no sense!
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On March 16 2011 11:51 bLuR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 11:49 LegendaryZ wrote:On March 16 2011 11:43 bLuR wrote:On March 16 2011 11:42 MadCatZ wrote:On March 16 2011 06:45 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Its retarded. Why do you think any of the non-koreans that went to GSL, went to GSL for? For the same fucking reason Koreans want to play NASL. Note that this poll assumes that the skill level of top Code A Koreans is about the same as the skill of the top foreigners, which we can assume to be true from IEM. While its not that untrue, how can we assume that from IEM when it was won by 3 players who all f.ailed round 1 of Code A? I mean, that wouldnt really qualify as top code A level to me evidence wise NASL=North American GSL=Global The name is SO misleading to be honest not like they call it KSL. They couldve named it WSL-western since its a focus on western E-sports The GSL isn't global its only for people in Korea. This is a dumb argument that's used over and over again. The tournament is physically held in Korea, but players from all over the world are permitted to come and compete at will. Any notable player would be able to find some sort of income or sponsorship to travel to Korea if they wanted and many have and failed. The GSL as it stands is the international proving grounds for SC2. If you want to play against the best in the world, that's where people go. NASL is an invitational.. + You think its easy for foreigners to just pack up and go to korea?
Sure, it's easy for foreigners to just pack up and go so long as they're committed to making this their life's course. Many have and many will in the future. If you're talking about a bunch of random second-rate gamers going on a whim, then of course it would be much more difficult. Among the foreigners that actually matter, many have already made the trip and those who haven't generally made the choice not to go despite being able to do so. I can't think of any serious foreign competitor that wants to go, but just hasn't found a way to get there yet.
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On March 16 2011 11:55 Peas wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 11:53 bLuR wrote:
Everyone will have their own opinions i'm realizing how stupid it is to argue about it, most people have no idea what they are talking about. and thats why the entire poll is a farce.
Oh, come on. That's the very nature of democracy. Don't be one of those people who thinks a poll is legitimate when the poll reflects on the person's opinion favorably, and the opposite when the poll favors opinions you disagree with.
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I would say to let them play, as long as they submit videos like everyone else. Everyone who submitted their application has been waiting for this sort of event with passion, having koreans just ferried over and basically handed over the money without them actually making any efforts is retarded.
In general, the approach that korean players have towards the NASL sounds more and more like "hi me [insert name here] give me monies me play kkkkk". No korean, so far, has taken the effort of explaining why they should be in the NASL. They need a translator? Let them fetch one. It's in their best interest to be part of the NASL, they do not deserve any free invites regardless of their level of play.
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On March 16 2011 11:55 bLuR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2011 11:53 kaileah wrote:On March 16 2011 11:51 bLuR wrote:On March 16 2011 11:49 LegendaryZ wrote:On March 16 2011 11:43 bLuR wrote:On March 16 2011 11:42 MadCatZ wrote:On March 16 2011 06:45 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Its retarded. Why do you think any of the non-koreans that went to GSL, went to GSL for? For the same fucking reason Koreans want to play NASL. Note that this poll assumes that the skill level of top Code A Koreans is about the same as the skill of the top foreigners, which we can assume to be true from IEM. While its not that untrue, how can we assume that from IEM when it was won by 3 players who all f.ailed round 1 of Code A? I mean, that wouldnt really qualify as top code A level to me evidence wise NASL=North American GSL=Global The name is SO misleading to be honest not like they call it KSL. They couldve named it WSL-western since its a focus on western E-sports The GSL isn't global its only for people in Korea. This is a dumb argument that's used over and over again. The tournament is physically held in Korea, but players from all over the world are permitted to come and compete at will. Any notable player would be able to find some sort of income or sponsorship to travel to Korea if they wanted and many have and failed. The GSL as it stands is the international proving grounds for SC2. If you want to play against the best in the world, that's where people go. NASL is an invitational.. + You think its easy for foreigners to just pack up and go to korea? Question for you just because i'm personally curious. What do you think of Team Liquid members in Korea participating in NASL? Haypro, ret. (what if it included huk and jinro as well?) How about moonglade? foreigners who live in korea and participate in the gsl are essentially the same as korean sc2 players other than the whole genetics thing. the gsl gives 4 foreigner invites, the NASL should do the same with respect to the amount of players in the nasl
you sidestepped the qusetion. do you think team liquid / foreigners who are also participating in the gsl should be able to participate as well? because they're the same as korean sc2 players in all the sense except for genetics. if you say 'well ret and haypro aren't participating in the gsl' then what about korean players who aren't either?
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