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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On March 14 2011 20:04 D.Devil wrote: There are dozens of teams that pay their players, this headline relates to South Korea only. Not even. The title in the OP is very misleading. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
On March 14 2011 22:20 GreEny K wrote: Wow, I just assumed that all of the pro korean teams got paid.. hmmmm... Does that guy int he lower picture look like one of the coaches from MBCgame to anyone else? You don't recognize Coach Lee aka Mama bear? | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On March 14 2011 22:25 zerious wrote: You don't recognize Coach Lee aka Mama bear? It is him? Looks like him... That's what I was asking. What's his affiliation to sc2 now? | ||
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HighC
United States12 Posts
On March 14 2011 14:46 Fayth wrote: pretty mediocre when its 80 hours a week though, hopefully it rises in a year or 2 It's 80 hours of SC2, not 80 hours mining coal. I don't think you could ask for much more right now. | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On March 14 2011 22:29 GreEny K wrote: It is him? Looks like him... That's what I was asking. It is him  And I think it's fairly obvious that the news is about SC2 teams, not BW/ other games. To the discussion "other teams surely pay as well" - how much? We know basically nothing about how much the western esports players get. In most cases it's even speculation that they anything at all (can anyone link me a source that says Liquid pays it's players?). So to FXOpen from p1: Where can we read up how much your 2 top players earn? Because you could as well pay them 100$ a month (you mentioned something like "more than average" average what? BW A class salary? BW B class? other esport-games salary? SKorean population average? US average?) I think you can understand why this is what the media (and most of TL) are interested in, because we finally get some facts. Not speculation & hints. | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
For eSports  :-) | ||
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CoMMoDuS
Germany507 Posts
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lim1017
Canada1278 Posts
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Trentelshark
Canada385 Posts
On March 14 2011 14:46 Fayth wrote: pretty mediocre when its 80 hours a week though, hopefully it rises in a year or 2 Perhaps 80 hours a week seems high to most of us, but remember. Most of their housing costs are paid for if I'm not mistaken and I think their main (only?) responsibility is food if I'm not mistaken. If I didn't have to pay for my house, utilities, insurance, car insurance, etc (or, could write everything off internet, electricity, PC hardware etc as a tax deductible "working" from home), 31,000/year would go more than far enough to begin . | ||
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Ponyo
United States1231 Posts
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On March 14 2011 15:02 godemperor wrote: 30k is actually a lot more than it sounds than an average job in US/EU for 2 reasons: 1. This is 30k of disposable income, since they live in a team house and do not need pay rent or mortgage. Housing cost usually take around a quarter to a third of the total income. 2. Cost of living is lower in korea than the West. 3. Assuming FD and Tester stays in code S, he could get at least another 10k. Not to mention prize form other tournaments. So 30k could easy equal to a lot more. Some great points, but I do want to point out that you have to be careful with #2 as Seoul has one of the highest cost of living of any city in the world. so it is heavily Dependant on where at in Korea you live. On March 14 2011 22:56 Trentelshark wrote: Perhaps 80 hours a week seems high to most of us, but remember. Most of their housing costs are paid for if I'm not mistaken and I think their main (only?) responsibility is food if I'm not mistaken. If I didn't have to pay for my house, utilities, insurance, car insurance, etc (or, could write everything off internet, electricity, PC hardware etc as a tax deductible "working" from home), 31,000/year would go more than far enough to begin .I believe food is covered if they are eating at the house but that is mainly rice, ramen,etc. They would have to pay if they wanted something better like kobe or pizza | ||
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chenchen
United States1136 Posts
A progamer's salary can also be considered as 100$ pocket money or saved money because all of their living expenses are covered. | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
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Kazang
578 Posts
On March 14 2011 22:29 GreEny K wrote: It is him? Looks like him... That's what I was asking. What's his affiliation to sc2 now? He is the TSL coach/manager. | ||
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chenchen
United States1136 Posts
On March 14 2011 23:17 infinity2k9 wrote: Its funny people say 31k is perfectly acceptable in this thread; In threads about the match fixing people posted salaries of this amount to be an acceptable reason for people to match fix, as if its somehow justified. This was also back when Bonjwas could pull in nearly a million a year including salaries, winnings, and advertisement. | ||
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aka_star
United Kingdom1546 Posts
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
On March 14 2011 23:14 chenchen wrote: Yeah SC2 pro don't actually practice 80 hours a week. I thought the oGs-TL house tour pretty much covered that up. They don't practice as much as BW pros. A progamer's salary can also be considered as 100$ pocket money or saved money because all of their living expenses are covered. Junwi said during the GSTL that Team IM practices around the same as pro BW teams. | ||
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Offhand
United States1869 Posts
On March 14 2011 22:49 lim1017 wrote: not to be cynical but no one else is surpised by FD getting so much even though he hasn't been performing very well recently? Fruitdealer and Tester (I'm still calling him tester because his name has changed 5 times before I finish this post) are the two top players of TSL. Neither has been performing particularly well in the GSL, but who else on TSL can match them? Furthermore, no one except MC performed "as expected" in code S this season. Exposure and the ability to generate viewership are more important things to sponsors then actual tournament results. Fruitdealer won the first GSL and became a big name in SC2, people tune in to watch him, even if he doesn't do so well *cough* Boxer *cough*. | ||
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
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