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On March 14 2011 15:02 godemperor wrote:
30k is actually a lot more than it sounds than an average job in US/EU for 2 reasons:
1. This is 30k of disposable income, since they live in a team house and do not need pay rent or mortgage. Housing cost usually take around a quarter to a third of the total income.
2. Cost of living is lower in korea than the West.
3. Assuming FD and Tester stays in code S, he could get at least another 10k. Not to mention prize form other tournaments.
So 30k could easy equal to a lot more.
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30K is actually a big sum when you take off cost of mortgage/rent, heating, electricity, food (I'm pretty sure), etc... That actually accounts for the majority of expenses for the majority of people. Just being in code S earns > $1000 bucks already, so someone like tester that could average a round of 8 appearance, that's already another 15K right there, and that's not including sums from other tournaments, like godemperor mentioned.
Basically they're getting ~ 45K per year of EXTRA SPENDING CASH. That's a pretty goddamn big sum, especially in korea
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So that's without having to pay rent or utilities or food. Pretty awesome.
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I thought that this was about the TSL3 lol =[ I am disappointed but it's nice that the korean SC2 teams are getting more serious :D
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On March 14 2011 14:55 FXOpen wrote:I've been paying my players a salary since December..... Gotta love media 
i know right... western scene definitely ahead of korea in that regard... :s
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On March 14 2011 14:43 Nuri wrote:
wow not bad getting 31k usd just to play sc2 per year
You make it sound easy...
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Wow does that mean someone is actually paying Rain to play SC2?
What a waste of cash...I assumed he would get a real job since he obviously wouldn't be winning anything more.
All player bashing aside, this is great news for (the rest of) TSL and eSports in general. Most of the players are extremely deserving.
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Damn the living standards and wages are high in south korea as well. Like same level of welfare as scandinavia.
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I work a 9-5 at a job I hate making less than that. I will have no sympathy for anyone who says that paying a 17 year-old $30K a year to play videogames all week is too low... Hell if I get good enough to make televised matches, I'll do it for the room and board, no problem.
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On March 15 2011 01:16 Rob28 wrote:
I work a 9-5 at a job I hate making less than that. I will have no sympathy for anyone who says that paying a 17 year-old $30K a year to play videogames all week is too low... Hell if I get good enough to make televised matches, I'll do it for the room and board, no problem.
it's low considering that only a very small percentile of the population is as good at sc2 as them. (granted a small % play sc2 at all)
by the way, cost of living in korea is high.
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On March 14 2011 22:35 Zocat wrote:
And I think it's fairly obvious that the news is about SC2 teams, not BW/ other games.
To the discussion "other teams surely pay as well" - how much? We know basically nothing about how much the western esports players get. In most cases it's even speculation that they anything at all (can anyone link me a source that says Liquid pays it's players?).
So to FXOpen from p1:
Where can we read up how much your 2 top players earn? Because you could as well pay them 100$ a month (you mentioned something like "more than average" average what? BW A class salary? BW B class? other esport-games salary? SKorean population average? US average?)
I think you can understand why this is what the media (and most of TL) are interested in, because we finally get some facts. Not speculation & hints.
I agree with this post 100%! I think this is the first time we've seen the actual numbers. That's probably why it's newsworthy.
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Thought SlayerS would have salaries since they got Intel and Razer at their back.
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i think they meant first team to have salaries that you could live on?
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Releasing salaries is only a lure for a team. If I released my salary cap, and how much each player was being paid, I assume people who try to take my players (as I have done in the past also)... So the end story is. I dont think its wise for anyone to release such information unless they actually are looking for players.
The media is used in many ways, and this looks like a good means for picking up some more good players. The problem is, there are plenty of other korean teams who do not disclose their salary caps. So it may backfire.
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1) TSL (Team SCV Life) will become the first StarCraft 2 Team to give salary to it's players. The first payday will be on April 10th.
? Mousesports pays salary to its StarCraft 2 Team since it exists.
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On March 14 2011 15:02 godemperor wrote:
30k is actually a lot more than it sounds than an average job in US/EU for 2 reasons:
1. This is 30k of disposable income, since they live in a team house and do not need pay rent or mortgage. Housing cost usually take around a quarter to a third of the total income.
2. Cost of living is lower in korea than the West.
3. Assuming FD and Tester stays in code S, he could get at least another 10k. Not to mention prize form other tournaments.
So 30k could easy equal to a lot more.
Point 1 and 2 cancel each other out.
youre right about 3 though.
anyways, great news.
THIS IS HUGE!
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Really not bad! A good start and maybe they'll be paid more as this creates precedence!
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On March 15 2011 01:55 Torte de Lini wrote:
Really not bad! A good start and maybe they'll be paid more as this creates precedence!
Am I the only one that dislikes this kind of action?
Getting paid per win, aka freelance style, seems like a better route. Down the road we might see players, like in the NBA/NHL etc..., who don't have as much motivation or determination to succeed and who don't actually deserve getting paid that much money for their lacking contributions.
The precedence also puts pressure on manufacturers to either increases prices or make products more cheaply, which would hurt the average gamer and spectator.
All this, not to mention the fanatic and zealous sell-out mentality of the pro-esports following makes me a bit weary of the foundation and birth of this 'industry'.
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Try not to forget guys, the team also provides lodging/food/etc. Not to mention this salary does not include any other revenue. FD has already made 90k+ just from GSL alone (can't say on other tournaments). He also may have recieved other endorsments, donations, etc.
I wouldn't be suprised if some of the top players like FD are pulling around 150k U.S.D. Thats pretty dam good for the 1st year of SC2
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i think that 31k is more than enough. AWESOME ! I think they deserve this they work really hard.
but are they really 1st ?
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31k + room + at least partial board + prize winnings + endorsements
You guys really need to stop focusing on the salary and ignoring all the other benefits.
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